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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:31:37 PM

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I think its awesome how you and residentsadist think that men assaulting women is fun and games and that is something that you do in your home. Rape is pretty funny too, murder - now thats especially funny. A real knee slapper. Im sure all the women that are in the e.r. are really yukking it up. What was the name of this thread again?

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Ok . . . that's most of what I did last night. so what?

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:32:01 PM

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i wouldnt say ALL men are assholes,closer to 90%.it is the ones who lie to get you into bed, the ones who cheat, the ones who try to fuck children,the ones who leave when you are pregnant that are ruining it for the rest.don't complain to women about it. talk to other men.ask them to stop making it bad for you

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wow, really? I'm sorry to hear that's been your experiences. Yeah, I've met bad men but overall in general, most people are not that bad, be they male or female. Like they say...fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:32:36 PM

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:42:02 PM

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Go read the Gift of Fear. And rates of sexual assault and rape.

Women always assume the worst of strange males because too often that is what they do.

You have to prove yourself safe because we've all known men who were dangerous.

If you had one tenth the knowledge of women that you claim to have, then you wouldn't even have to ask this.

And yes, your posts here classifies you as one of those assholes who cause women to view all men through that lens. You've just made it happen.

I'm so glad I don't read these kinds of books.

Yeah, let's just throw another log of fear onto the fire to fan the flames of man-hating.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:47:11 PM

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Go read the Gift of Fear. And rates of sexual assault and rape.

Women always assume the worst of strange males because too often that is what they do.

You have to prove yourself safe because we've all known men who were dangerous.

If you had one tenth the knowledge of women that you claim to have, then you wouldn't even have to ask this.

And yes, your posts here classifies you as one of those assholes who cause women to view all men through that lens. You've just made it happen.

I'm so glad I don't read these kinds of books.

Yeah, let's just throw another log of fear onto the fire to fan the flames of man-hating.

I dont know if its to promote "man-hating" as much as its trying to make the OP more aware of why women on here are erring to the wind of caution. Who knows what he says to them to get this kind of response.

I have a very hard time believing that any woman on this site has ever written to him saying " I think youre an asshole - prove me wrong." I think there might be something else going on here.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:50:13 PM

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...my apologies to Pam for my snark...

Oh, gosh. Please don't apologize.

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You really dont get it. I wonder how many women here have been a victim in one way or another by a man? A husband, father, boyfriend, employer - ?...

...This chart from the National Institute of Justice appears to show that women are about three times more likely to be physically assaulted by their partners than men.

Does that make it alright for a woman to assume a man is a would-be attacker until proven otherwise? By comparison, I bet blacks make up a disproportionate number of prison inmates in the U.S. Would it be okay to assume that a black person is a criminal, until proven otherwise?

Mind you, I don't know if that's what the OP meant by having to prove he's not a scumbag. I don't know exactly what women are doing that he thinks is rude, or to what lengths he has to go "prove" himself. But without knowing the specifics, I tend to think he's entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Or, he's entitled *not* to be treated rudely because of his gender (unless he does something specific to deserve it), notwithstanding the fact that men are three times more likely to assault women, or the fact that there are a lot of douchebags on this site.

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ETA: And I have those types of comments. For example, we've had threads where people ranted about how men in general were untrustworthy. I was surprised at how many people agreed.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 10:52:27 PM

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I'm guessing he's corectly seeing it. Personally I see it A LOT on both sides here and it just leaves me saddened and I'm a woman who has been raped once and sexually assaulted another time but I STILL don't go around being cautious of men and automatically thinking that they may hurt me. It's just not true. Most people are really not that violent. Angry? Yeah...lots of that going on. But violent, not really.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 11:00:04 PM

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...my apologies to Pam for my snark...

Oh, gosh. Please don't apologize.

Does that make it alright for a woman to assume a man is a would-be attacker until proven otherwise? By comparison, I bet blacks make up a disproportionate number of prison inmates in the U.S. Would it be okay to assume that a black person is a criminal, until proven otherwise?

It does it theyve been in a situation before that might taint their view towards any stranger. I also think that race discrimination is completely different than assault or rape. Its not comparable. Unless of course the person has been assaulted by someone of a different race - then they are going to tack on that prejudice as well.

Mind you, I don't know if that's what the OP meant by having to prove he's not a scumbag. I don't know exactly what women are doing that he thinks is rude, or to what lengths he has to go "prove" himself. But without knowing the specifics, I tend to think he's entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Or, he's entitled *not* to be treated rudely because of his gender (unless he does something specific to deserve it), notwithstanding the fact that men are three times as likely to assault women as the converse, or the fact that there are a lot of douchebags on this site.

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And thats why in my prior post I said who knows what this guy is saying to get that kind of reaction. There might be something else going on here.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 11:04:26 PM

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I guess being from Alaska Ive seen way too much of it.
When I lived there - I carried a weapon on me at all times. The assult on women up there is staggering.
No - not all men are that way. But when youve seen it as much as I have, you know it to be a fact - and it fucks people up in the head.

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I'm guessing he's corectly seeing it. Personally I see it A LOT on both sides here and it just leaves me saddened and I'm a woman who has been raped once and sexually assaulted another time but I STILL don't go around being cautious of men and automatically thinking that they may hurt me. It's just not true. Most people are really not that violent. Angry? Yeah...lots of that going on. But violent, not really.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/20/2012 11:27:25 PM

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Nice counterbalance to all the money grubbing, illiterate, Jerkoff Shore watching, lazy twats who think that a pair of fake tits and a shitty sense of entitlement equates to men owing them something.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:02:30 AM

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Not all men are assholes. Most people, men and women, are "normal". (Well, that's why it's called "normal".) Still, something has to be said about the way some men approach or relate to women on websites and chats. And that's when normal people behave like assholes. To a point in which there are posts and instructions about how to approach women in places like this... Which instructions do you need, jerk? It's like being in a pub. No matter how scandalously-porno-sexual-outrageous are the things you have planned to do with that blonde over there, you start saying "hi" and then something nice. Nice like in nice, not like in "wanna suck cock".

That said, yesssss there are a lot of female assholes out there. The thing is, in general, males don't take it so seriously, and don't waste time putting warnings about in their profiles, or opening threads. Manipulative bitches, attention whores, liars, cheats, ultraarrogant or ultra defensive or bad mannered women... You name it. And of course, really nice people.

Get the nice people, forget the assholes or the normal-people-behaving-like-assholes.

Ah, and if somebody thinks that 90% of the opposite gender are assholes... that somebody is quite likely a superasshole. (Whith very bad taste choosing partners, by the way).

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:27:34 AM

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I think its awesome how you and residentsadist think that men assaulting women is fun and games and that is something that you do in your home. Rape is pretty funny too, murder - now thats especially funny. A real knee slapper. Im sure all the women that are in the e.r. are really yukking it up. What was the name of this thread again?

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Ok . . . that's most of what I did last night. so what?

In my house we call this foreplay

Actually, I could drag any one part of this asinine thread out of context and it would be fucking hilarious. Taking an OP like this seriously is silly. You know what though, he is right:

"It almost seems that half the women here are not looking for a man. They look for reasurance that all men are still assholes and they can go back to their friends to gripe about it. "

However, the other half are perfectly sane, normal, man loving horny toads. So what is the point? Janah, you gonna' wave that rape victim flag a little higher or join in with the rest of us that can see both sides of the coin? Come on Janah, step away from the flag. Look, I was a women's crisis counselor and heard more rape stories than you can imagine and even I don't ever pretend to take shit like this seriously when I see someone trolling for man-hating ERA flag waving ball crushers in a thread like this. So seriously, step away from the rape victim flag, it clashes with your outfit.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:44:55 AM

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way bad form

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 1:24:14 AM

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I was being facetious. Using quantifying parameters such as "all...." hardly ever stands up to even the most elementary scrutiny. Except for certain laws of science, physics for example, 100% chance of anything especially regarding human behavior doesn't cut ice. About the only "all" that applies to humans is that we will die. I've engaged in very positive, stimulating conversation and interaction with women on this site. As for being a jerk, that is fine as long as it isn't a dry reach around.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 1:39:26 AM

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this is from what i have seen, not my life story

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 2:02:48 AM

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this is from what i have seen, not my life story

You must have been doing something wrong, then.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 6:19:40 AM

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This thread was a train wreck from the outset, because it lumps one group together and makes one label for all of the members of said group.

Not all anything, are anything, outside of scientific or social classification.

In regards to some of the more recent commentary spun off from the main: I think fear is exactly what it is. If a woman has fear of men, she has to adjust her life to that fear because half the populace is men. If that adjustment is how she chooses to live, so be it, from an internal standpoint. I personally would not agree with that choice, and believe it entirely unhealthy; but choice is one of the freedoms the western world values, so like it or not, the entitlement is granted. To turn that fear outwards and infect others is another matter, because spreading fear creates problems instead of solving them.

Fear is an ugly thing to live in the shadow of, and not preferable by any stretch; but each person has to make their own way. I don't have an issue stating that because I was raped a long time ago, and I don't judge all other men by that incident. I'd be a lot more self-deprecating if that were true. I choose not to live in fear, and I choose to judge individuals for who, not what, they are.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 6:30:08 AM

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Go read the Gift of Fear. And rates of sexual assault and rape.

Women always assume the worst of strange males because too often that is what they do.

You have to prove yourself safe because we've all known men who were dangerous.

If you had one tenth the knowledge of women that you claim to have, then you wouldn't even have to ask this.

And yes, your posts here classifies you as one of those assholes who cause women to view all men through that lens. You've just made it happen.

I'm so glad I don't read these kinds of books.

Yeah, let's just throw another log of fear onto the fire to fan the flames of man-hating.

The Gift of Fear doesn't promote man hating. It promotes trusting your gut instincts, which I think is essential for anyone, but especially for people who like to be tied up and beaten and meet people from the internet who are essentially strangers for this purpose.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 6:34:05 AM

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Taking an OP like this seriously is silly.

For better or worse, the rest of us are taking it seriously. So while I thought you and Kana were funny, I also thought your comments were in extremely poor taste on a serious thread.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 6:55:36 AM

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In all fairness........it's not like it is a new facet of behaviour.

Regular posters, same old M.O.s

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