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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 1:18:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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I intended to start a thread about a generic topic






It's not !!

Well dang me double !!

I knew somethink weren't right !!

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 3:07:50 PM   
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Is that man with his head in the toilet trying to find his 'asshole magnet'? :)

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 3:40:55 PM   
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No, I don't go walking through dark alleys at night. That doesn't mean I fear all men. It just means I try not to put Myself in situations where higher risks occur.


See? I would always do this all the time, until I met Master and he banned it. I would go to NYC and walk through the tunnels alone or the alleys. Never had a problem. I did it a few times here in Baltimore until I was talking to him and laughing about how I got hit up for drugs and asking if I wanted to be a prostitute lol. He didn't find it so funny.

But can't say I've ever been afraid of such places. I just keep my wits about me and give off an air of confidence and security. Predators smell fear.


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 6:33:57 PM   
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What a fucking thread. Like Jeff I'm going through
nicotine withdrawal and everything I see
and say is filtered through that so... apologies
upfront for anything incomprehensible
or assholish.

I think the CM experience is different
in many ways for women. I think men
hear about all this mail women get and
think it sounds like fun. They'd love to
be deluged by mail from women whether
they'd be interested in fucking them or not.

But for me and at least some other women
it's not so much fun. It's a little overwhelming
at times and it can strain your nerves.
My profile is hidden and has been for
awhile because it felt like everytime I
logged on flocks of birds would swoop
down on me trying to peck me to death.

But that in no way translates to a hatred
or dislike of men on CM or anywhere else.

The Internet can nurture misanthropic
feelings in general which is why it's good
for everyone to step away regularly.

I've had the same experience SexyRed
has had with how men react in real
life as opposed to online. Say no in
real life no hard feelings. Say no online
and guard your cyber bunnies as they
are about to be boiled. Wild spitting anger.
And yes this is a kink site but a little
finesse please. You're aspiring to insert
the butt plug into an actual human being.

I think the Gift of Fear is a book with
good advice for everyone. Being paranoid
and spooked by your own shadow is
unhealthy. But reasonable caution isn't.
Whether you're a deer in the forest or
a human in the concrete jungle nature
has gifted you with survival instincts.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 7:02:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirVVV

Wow :D I thought this would stir up some raw emotions, but your responses exeeded my expectations.

I must say, after reading some restonses, it is no longer gerder specific. Guys appearently are just as capable of slapping the labels on people.

I have posed a simple, philosophical question: "Why do I have to prove that I am NOT something/someone.... before you even care to know what or who I am?" This was not intedned as whining about how all these mean women badger poor ol' me. It was not intended to rant generically about womens opiniont towards men either. Most of that opinion, unfortunately, is well deserved.

Most of the responsed do in deed prove my point. We are much to quick and eager to slap labels on people: whinning, ranting and so on.

Stop for a minute, listen... and I mean really listen to what a person has to say and then draw your own conclusions.

My intension was to bring attention to the simple fact that nowadays, when it comes to meeting new people, there is no longer any kind of presumption of innocence. Everybody is a creep, crook, asshole or whatever other label you have habdy at the time.


First: let's go back and look at something you put out there in your initial post on this thread.

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ORIGINAL: SirVVV



It almost seems that half the women here are not looking for a man. They look for reasurance that all men are still assholes and they can go back to their friends to gripe about it.




Drawing broad negative generalisations, is not the way to begin a discussion that has a chance to move in a positive direction with both sides feeling heard.
You just did what you accused the women of doing and also what seems to be upsetting you about some of other responses to this thread.

However... moving along.


You have been here for 2 weeks.

Maybe there is something aggressive in your approach here that is putting the women you are contacting on the defensive?

When the man who became Master to me contacted me over 3 1/2 years ago, He sent a cmail that asked interesting questions.
Non-sexual, interesting questions about profile points.
I answered, and His return response again asked thoughtful, interesting questions about me as a person.

I met him within a month... and we are still together.

You say you are wondering what happened to the presumption of innocence?
I don't think that female-culture has changed in 10 years.


I think that 10 yrs of the internet has taught women that there are smart ways to do internet dating and dumb ways; and to assume everyone is trustworthy is not just naive but non-self-protective.

It has nothing to do with men being assholes.
It has everything to do with the fact that it is easy to create personas online that have not a thread's connection to the reality of the person writing it.

So, and this is being offered not with any kind of assumption and with respect, if you are getting indications from women that you are setting off their creep alarms, then maybe the issue isn't them, but you-- and maybe you need to re-evaluate how you are conducting yourself online and the types of messages you are sending out.

edit: clarity

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 8:19:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Aw, you came back! And with that offensive 'soon to be lesbians remark'! Brilliant!


Shakespeare said it best: I think he doth protest too much about it not being about him.

He just keeps on digging in deeper....:)

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 8:43:22 PM   
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I love it when butthurt men say that women 'want' to be lesbians! As if there was choice involved, and they were doing it to be spiteful!

Comedy gold.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 10:29:21 PM   
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Gotta admit though there are a lot of women out there running around and I know some personally, who have had such fucked up relationships and so many of them that they've given up on the hetero sex and figured, why the hell not? It'll be easier than finding a man. I know of at least 3 girls personally in my life who did just exactly that because they are just so turned off of men because of their bad choices.


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 4:46:14 AM   
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If all the women you have contact with think men are assholes, then maybe you should start looking for the common denominator in the equation.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 4:57:47 AM   
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Nor did I say that they think I am an asshole.


If you didn't mean to include yourself, why did you use we in the op?

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All men are assholes!!!

I seem to hear that more often these days and most certaily am confronted with this particurar brand of attitude by most women. Why is that? Why are yoy so positively covinced that we ALL are no good waste of flesh???

If that is truly the case... why bother signing up to CM and other sites stating that you are looking for a mam, if you are already conviced that we are all flawed?

You walk around... armed to the teeth with witt, sarcasm, patronizing remarks and stereotypes... ready to fight off another male that comes your way. You get so wound up in it that you don't even know how to act when you come across a decent one.... You stop... and wonder... and then stab the poor sucker in the eye anyway... just for good measure.


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 5:34:10 AM   
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I am not sure what this op is saying? It is why are men call asshole's or'
why do women call men asshole and then want them?

I have truly meant two men who are assholes, an abuse who enjoyed beating
me and this was not BDSM, and a abuser of children!

They are assholes truly the worse of the worse! So op I do not know any other men
who happen to be asshole at all!

Oh wait yes the one who claims to be a slave but in fact a rat asshole not very in the mind,
and a loose cannon! He is scary asshole, so I stand corrected I know three!

Op lighten up I am not sure what type of women who have ran across but wow , they really have made you ''
so angry!

Never give anyone the power to let you give the emiotions of "hate" angry and jealous!

I rather forgive and move on then ever have those emotions taking over my life!

best of all of to you

mons ( this is what thought he was speaking of please correct me if I am wrong)

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 12:35:38 PM   
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I this thishereboi's sig line is appropriate for this:

"Sweetie you are wasting your gum"

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 7:52:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Go read the Gift of Fear. And rates of sexual assault and rape.

Women always assume the worst of strange males because too often that is what they do.

You have to prove yourself safe because we've all known men who were dangerous.

If you had one tenth the knowledge of women that you claim to have, then you wouldn't even have to ask this.

And yes, your posts here classifies you as one of those assholes who cause women to view all men through that lens. You've just made it happen.


I'm so glad I don't read these kinds of books.

Yeah, let's just throw another log of fear onto the fire to fan the flames of man-hating.



LW,

I urge you to read this book. Your take on it unread could not be more off-base. It's not about living in fear or man-hating. It is anything but that. I can't recommend this book highly enough. It treats both women AND men with respect.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 8:02:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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Bita, You sly one!!

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/22/2012 9:17:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hlen5


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Go read the Gift of Fear. And rates of sexual assault and rape.

Women always assume the worst of strange males because too often that is what they do.

You have to prove yourself safe because we've all known men who were dangerous.

If you had one tenth the knowledge of women that you claim to have, then you wouldn't even have to ask this.

And yes, your posts here classifies you as one of those assholes who cause women to view all men through that lens. You've just made it happen.


I'm so glad I don't read these kinds of books.

Yeah, let's just throw another log of fear onto the fire to fan the flames of man-hating.



LW,

I urge you to read this book. Your take on it unread could not be more off-base. It's not about living in fear or man-hating. It is anything but that. I can't recommend this book highly enough. It treats both women AND men with respect.



Ok so I just read many many excerpts and the author's own website and from what I can it's just a book telling people how to survive violence and how to spot it. To be honest, the way I grew up, the things I have done, the places I have lived, I already know these things. It's why I was able to save myself when I was kidnapped at knifepoint and violence in bad neighbor hoods in cities and stalkers. So I'm just not really seeing any reason for me to read it but thanks for the recommendation. I do really appreciate it.


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 8/8/2012 5:18:20 AM   
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From my experience, being an azzhole is not gender specific at all.

Azzholes come in both genders, and in every flavor imaginable. The skill is in picking them out before they pick you out.

IMHO

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 8/8/2012 8:05:25 AM   
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I do not assume most men are assholes.  As a matter of fact, I have found that there are quite a few guys that are decidedly NOT assholes.  Hell, there are quite a few of them right here that are pretty decent types, too.  While I am certain there are some women that feel differently, there are plenty of men that don't hold a very high opinion of women in general, either.  I don't see any reason to lament that fact.  I just try to steer clear of them.

OP, the thing is, assholes are usually fairly easy to spot.  It does not take a lot of specialized training to recognize one.  Seen one asshole, seen 'em (pretty much) all.  Some may be more ~attractive~ than others, better well maintained, but an asshole is still an asshole.  I don't need to put in a lot of time or effort to make that initial classification.

My point being, I have spent my life dealing with people of both genders.  We all have.  It might not seem fair that I'd write off certain people without giving them to time to prove they don't fit in that category.  However, I'm willing to take that risk.  Why?  Because life and experience have been my teachers.  The amount of time and effort I have spent in the past has told me that when I think someone is an ass, they usually are, and all that I get out of spending more time with the person is frustration and unpleasantries.    Could I miss a gem hidden among the assholes?  Sure, but not bloody likely. 

Avowed non lesbian, btw.  Just sayin'.  (And not taking a thing away from those that are!  Honest!)




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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 8/8/2012 5:02:08 PM   
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It almost seems that half the women here are not looking for a man. They look for reasurance that all men are still assholes and they can go back to their friends to gripe about it.




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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 8/8/2012 5:21:44 PM   
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My sweetie assures me that all men are pigs, and are just looking for sex - but they are comfortable with being pigs.

I think they are not only comfortable with their pigness - they embrace it!

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 8/8/2012 6:20:14 PM   
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