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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 8:38:29 AM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		I don't know any woman who walks around thinking that some men are assholes out of fear.

I think if you actually live in the world and pay attention, you just know that there are actually a ton of assholes in every shape, size or gender.

I don't really know why people are getting upset about this fact; our modern society and technology has made the asshole quotient higher than it appeared to be in the past, simply because people feel entitled to behave any way they care to, and being online creates a sense of false courage.

When I reject someone in person they are cool about it. If I reject someone online, they go ape shit and start flinging it at me.

When I meet men in person, they usually talk normally. When men approach me online, 80% ask me things they would never dare ask me to my face if I met them at a party or in public.

I don't fear any assholes, I just try to avoid them.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 8:47:09 AM   
givemyall


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I think someone stuck an 'asshole magnet' on me when I wasn't looking :)

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 9:14:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I don't fear any assholes, I just try to avoid them.


Ooops...

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 9:29:01 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Man. These last couple of pages are far better than the original.

"The Gift of Fear" really is a decent book. It's been a while since I've read it, but I'm glad that I did.

Some of the reactions of women do have to do with their acquired knowledge. Either surroundings or personal experience. I totally get Janah's point about being from AK. The DV numbers up here are staggering when compared to population numbers.

I may be a sadist and a Dominant, but I don't consider Myself all that tough of a broad. No, I don't go walking through dark alleys at night. That doesn't mean I fear all men. It just means I try not to put Myself in situations where higher risks occur.



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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 9:40:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: givemyall

FR

I think someone stuck an 'asshole magnet' on me when I wasn't looking :)



I can relate.

fortunately, since I have decided that I am happier alone than being lonely with someone, that magnet seems to have (mostly) lost it's ability to attract.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 9:55:38 AM   
SirVVV


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Status: offline 		Since this thread has been so woefully misunderstood and forced completely away from original issue, I feel the need to post some clarifications:

1. OP was about a very specific group of "soon to be lesbians", that claim they are looking for a perfect man, yet put up walls so high that they don't even see who they are shooting down. This is not directed to ALL women in general.

2. My main point was the backwards attitude to screening the new people, that above type of women employ. Instead of talking to some one, learning about them and THEN making a judgement weather or not there were any red flags... above type demands some sort of proof up front... much like CarFax report of sorts :) And only then would they be willing to hear the person out and form an opinion.

Naturally they do not get the up front "proof" from anyone for it is an impossible thing to ask for. Then they equate that to a person being guilty of something and go on thinking that there must not be any more good ones left.

3. This thread is absolutely, positively NOT about me or my personal life. Yes, I have described the situation from my own personal point of view, for I can only speak for myself and refer to my own experiences only. I have posted a retorical question intended to start a discution about counter productive screening methods, not me personally.

4. Should we assume that strangers may be potentially dangerous? A resounding YES! Should we very carefully screen new people before we let them anywhere close to us? YES! Should we carefully analize everything we are being told by a stranger and not take everything at face value? YES, YES and YES!!!

That was never in question. Coming from a background of maximum security and having dealt with some prime scum in my days, I am probably more guarded and paranoid than most. I urge everyone to use extreme caution with strangers online and in real life.

Once again, I am not questioning the need to screen people. I am questioning the backwards, ill conceived and counter productive method of screening that some women employ. It is much like interrogating a suspect, not allowing them to speak and executing the individual because thei did not tell you anything... it is simply stupid, pointless and never yields. Desired results.

Hopefully this will help steer the discussion back to the original issue posted.

Kind regards,

Sir VVV

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 9:57:26 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 10:03:44 AM   
GreedyTop


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Aw, you came back! And with that offensive 'soon to be lesbians remark'! Brilliant!



beat me to it, Hibbie...

DUDE... how about not contacting the chicks that seem to think that way, as someone else has already said. In fact, without reading the entire thread again, I thinkSEVERAL someones have suggested the same thing.

YOUR perception of things is not shared by everybody. YEs, many HUMANS are assholes. And, equally, many humans do not immediately decide that ALL HUMANS are assholes.
the key is finding the human that has the same POV.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 10:07:38 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		I am often baffled by the men on the other side that carp about golddiggers and fakes and what have you... because a negative profile is not attractive. But that's their problem, and helps me, becuase I know to HIDE that person. Time saved, all around.

Now...if we could stop getting treated to pics of their reflected bathrooms...

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 10:23:32 AM   
GreedyTop


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Edited: damned dyslexic fingers...

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 11:24:27 AM   
SirVVV


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Are you really surprized that I am getting offensive and hostile???

I intended to start a thread about a generic topic and it turned into a badgering me personally, percieved experiences and views.

It is sad that this forum is not willing to discuss generic topics and insist on making it personal... perhaps to feel better about themselves.

Not to worry, fellow CM'ers, there will not be anymore posts or comments coming from me. I was looking for a debate and ended in inquisition. Have no interest in engaging in such conversations. Have nothing to prove, thus nothing to contribute...

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 11:27:33 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		The generic topic being that you think some women on the internet are doing it wrong?

Well yeah, so?

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 11:28:02 AM   
catize


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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 11:36:58 AM   
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I intended to start a thread about a generic topic




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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:16:56 PM   
TNDommeK


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Status: offline 		Ok, after reading the OP's new idea of what his thread was about, I did totally answer that wrong,lol. I have got to stop typing before coffee.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:18:42 PM   
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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:24:53 PM   
LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: SirVVV

LadyHibiscus

Are you really surprized that I am getting offensive and hostile???

I intended to start a thread about a generic topic and it turned into a badgering me personally, percieved experiences and views.

It is sad that this forum is not willing to discuss generic topics and insist on making it personal... perhaps to feel better about themselves.

Not to worry, fellow CM'ers, there will not be anymore posts or comments coming from me. I was looking for a debate and ended in inquisition. Have no interest in engaging in such conversations. Have nothing to prove, thus nothing to contribute...


Oh for fucksake! Another pansyass twit that wants a 'debate' discussion, giving of a sermon, whatthefuckever......yet cannot handle it when they get it!!!

Dude, in case you haven't realized this yet, a lot of people are never going to agree with you. No matter what! If you cannot handle the way other people, that you have ZERO CONTROL over, debate their differences in opinions, then you had better become a hermit. Cuz dude, you are in for a lot of fucking misery.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:35:38 PM   
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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 12:55:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirVVV
It is sad that this forum is not willing to discuss generic topics and insist on making it personal... perhaps to feel better about themselves.


My experience with you was that I had trouble understanding your posts, attempted to relay that fact to you, and you took my comments personally.
In hindsight, I've realized I wasn't clear (I meant for you to not restrict what you post to "simple questions" because these topics get out of hand, but attempt to clarify your topic beforehand, what probably came across was "Stop posting and read Language for Dummies"), but that process took a lot longer than it probably should have, and probably wouldn't have happened at all if I hadn't been so distressed from your reaction.

Look, dude. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The fact that you came back after your first "I'm leaving" post gives me hope- it means you're getting *something* out of others' posts. The fact that you posted another "I'm leaving" post takes a lot away from that. If you want to leave, do it. If you want to continuously pretend that you're halfway out the door, nobody can stop you.

This community is like a good encyclopedia- they know their shit, but you aren't going to get any good responses to your questions unless you first know how to look. I don't care how many languages you know, making an OP *that* confusing and getting hissy when you don't get the answers you want is, for my tastes, poor form. If you REALLY have something important to say, say it; if people misunderstand, revise and articulate it more clearly- getting your points across is your job.

kalikshama- Thanks, that image made my day :-)

EDIT: Wow, I spent at least 20 minutes on this post.

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RE: All men are assholes!!!..... Really? - 7/21/2012 1:14:21 PM   
Dunamis2009


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I am questioning the backwards, ill conceived and counter productive method of screening that some women employ. It is much like interrogating a suspect, not allowing them to speak and executing the individual because thei did not tell you anything... it is simply stupid, pointless and never yields. Desired results.


My memory is hazy from last night, yet I don't have any desire to read back through the thread. What exactly are some of these methods of screening that you refer to? You vaguely mention a "proof up front" concept, but I've never experienced anyone tell me to prove I was a nice guy before they could get to know me (this sounds incredibly ironic- getting to know me should include evaluating my character). Honestly, someone that forces the burden of proof for that sort of thing on me would go right in the "trash" pile- the effort to find out whether or not I'm truly a nice guy is fairly small and should happen incrementally anyway, and there's the little problem of my also applying her own requirements to her (Why should she get "proof" but I'm to take her word for it?). But again, I haven't met anyone like that, so it's hard for me to comment on that sort of thing.

If you're meaning something akin to a friend wanting to know whether you're simply her friend to get into her panties, then it's slightly different. I mean, of course, there's still no proof you can give, but (I'm generalizing here) we all have insecurities from time to time. Assuming they don't completely flip out (and sometimes even then), I would just assure them that this isn't the case, that I value their opinion, look for a possible cause for the insecurity, etc.

Do you have any concrete examples of these "methods of screening"? Or, could you make up a realistic one?

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