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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 11:52:32 AM   
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The original post is EXACTLY the plot of "50 Shades of Grey."


Fuck me... you're spot on!

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 12:00:41 PM   
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Hey OP... quick question...

How long have you been seeing eachother?

How many times have you met f2f?

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 12:16:30 PM   
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We've only been seeing each other a few weeks. Or were, I should say. We've met quite a few times.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 12:32:22 PM   
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Hey OP...

Ok... first things first

"Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive?"

Errm... Yes, of course.

But that doesn't mean a great deal - Since we're not talking about "a Master", we're talking about "Your Master".

If the question is "Can my master be satisfied with a submissive?"

Well, the answer has to be.... How the fuck would I know?

So, onto your op..

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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12
At the same time that I'm an, at best, wilful, bratty submissive, he's an intense, no limits (or very few limits) Master who has no problem finding partners to happily agree to and accept his pretty wild ways. That's what he's used to.


If he's a "no limits Master" (and I'll confess that the very phrase makes me shudder, but I'm not going to judge) then I'd guess that he'd be unlikely to be satisfied with a "some limits sub or slave".

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So when we get together, amazing sparks fly - I love how completely overpowering and demanding he is, and it calls forth a level of submission from me that I've never known before.


I'm wondering here how much experience you have... is he one of your first. Could you be succumbing to a little sub-frenzy?

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He loves my cheeky personality and the banter and the way that seeing me submit to whole new levels gives him a rush that he's never had before - he admitted that even after all his years playing, he got 'Dom space' and 'Dom drop' with me and he'd never had that before.


Only you can get a sense for the sincerity of this admission. I'll confess that the words that went through my head when I read this bit were "Oh my, he's a silver tongued old devil..." followed by "I bet he says that to all the little laydees".

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At the same time, he's highly impressed with what I can take, and what I'm willing to do for him, and we're attracted to each other on a deep level.


Ok, you've seen eachother quite a few times... so it would be unfair of me to dismiss this as a "crush" - but you should ask yourself the question... "Could this be a crush... arising out of this chap being the first to really push some of your buttons?"

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But the problem is that there are things he wants to do that I simply can't imagine doing, making myself do or even being forced to do. When he tells me stories of what he got up to with previous slaves, my heart literally stops beating in sheer horror. I can't be that person - I don't want to be that person. I don't want to be a no-limits slave, I like my limits, all of them! Twice recently he has wanted me to do something that I really don't want to do, and I've ended up saying no, and then we've had a bust up and said we're not compatible and attempted to walk away from each other. But then, because of all the good points between us, we make up and get back together. Only to repeat the same behaviour the next time.



Honestly... C'mon... you're 34!

Surely you can see that this is a strong indicator that you may simply not be compatible?

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Part of the problem is that when it comes to these forbidden tasks, I want him to encourage, persuade and coax me - I want him to train me and make it doable for me - whereas he wants brute obedience, obeying just for the sake of it. If he has to persuade, then it's no fun for him.


Argh... so it's no fun for you and no fun for him then?

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He gets frustrated by my lack of obedience, and I get frustrated that he wants me to be something I'm not.


Double argh.

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So, after all this, my question is - what happens when a submissive has a relationship with a Master? Can it ever work or is it doomed to failure? Beyond all the usual platitudes and advice, does anyone have any insights or stories to share that might help? If your gut instinct is telling you that it's not going to work, is it worth trying to make it work anyway?

Thank you xxx


So... your question "what happens when a submissive has a relationship with a Master?" isn't answerable. So many millions of billions of things can happen when a submissive has a relationship with a Master.

It seems to me you've a definition in mind for "Master" that some might agree with, and some not - There isn't an ISO standard "Master" specification out there. Besides, that's not important in this instance. What's important is "What happens when you have a relationship with THIS Master"

And the answer to that, as you probably already know is "unhappiness".

I've prowled your profile - you're literate, smart, have a brilliant set of nasty ideas. There will be someone out there for you with the right level of pushiness, charisma and sensitivity. I just don't reckon it's this chap.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 12:34:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

We've only been seeing each other a few weeks. Or were, I should say. We've met quite a few times.

A few weeks, broke up more than once & he's offering cups of pee? OOOOOH HEEEELl NO!!!
Block his number, don't take his calls & run don't walk the opposite direction. This is not someone to invest any more time in

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 1:43:54 PM   
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can a master/daddy be satisfied with a switch like me

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 2:58:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Justalilbaby

can a master/daddy be satisfied with a switch like me


"Can?" yes.

Will they? Who knows. You'd have to find one, get to know each other, then ask them.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 4:48:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U


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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

We've only been seeing each other a few weeks. Or were, I should say. We've met quite a few times.

A few weeks, broke up more than once & he's offering cups of pee? OOOOOH HEEEELl NO!!!
Block his number, don't take his calls & run don't walk the opposite direction. This is not someone to invest any more time in



^^^This.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 5:07:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: theRose4U


quote:

ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

We've only been seeing each other a few weeks. Or were, I should say. We've met quite a few times.

A few weeks, broke up more than once & he's offering cups of pee? OOOOOH HEEEELl NO!!!
Block his number, don't take his calls & run don't walk the opposite direction. This is not someone to invest any more time in



^^^This.

Use your lady smarts and not your lady parts.

Love this!! May have to add to my tag line

< Message edited by theRose4U -- 11/6/2012 5:08:15 PM >


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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 5:08:39 PM   
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I ate to say it but..it is no different then meeting your perfect vanilla man or woman... You decide why this is an issue (moral, physical, way you were brought up...), whether you can agree to live the way the other person wants & not, one day, hate & resent the other person... Many a women has dated a perfect man who is upfront about not wanting kids or marriage, but he is too amazing to let go.. Long story/parallelism cut short...the chemistry is out of this world, the sex is extraordinary, and you can't see living without him/her...until the day that you realize what you did or gave up for this person. Can you accept the person you have become without resenting the person who forced this change upon you?

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 5:46:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss

I ate to say it but..it is no different then meeting your perfect vanilla man or woman... You decide why this is an issue (moral, physical, way you were brought up...), whether you can agree to live the way the other person wants & not, one day, hate & resent the other person... Many a women has dated a perfect man who is upfront about not wanting kids or marriage, but he is too amazing to let go.. Long story/parallelism cut short...the chemistry is out of this world, the sex is extraordinary, and you can't see living without him/her...until the day that you realize what you did or gave up for this person. Can you accept the person you have become without resenting the person who forced this change upon you?

I got lucky. Knocked a man unconscious & carried off his heart cindarella style a year later. Didn't give up just got more than I ever dreamed. The other woman in our triad has been with him for years. Chemistry never died we just realized you can't rodeo with your ass on two horses!! Besides I don't care how great a man is, no penis will stretch 3000 miles!!

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 10:26:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
I'm wondering here how much experience you have... is he one of your first. Could you be succumbing to a little sub-frenzy?


About 12 years, but there's nothing to say that old handers can't get as frenzied as new timers :-)

In fairness, I've spent most of my time being a sub or a masochist - I've never done the slave thing before. So perhaps this is 'slave frenzy' after all.

Thanks for your kind words re: the profile :-)

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 11:18:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

So the play, and the sex, and the emotions are all pushing us to be together, the thought of not being together is awful.


You know, this caught my eye. You say this, but all you've talked about in this entire thread is how your BDSM play is really hot but also scary. Nothing about your relationship, who he is as a person, how you feel about each other, or really anything outside the bedroom.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/6/2012 11:20:08 PM   
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OP - does that thing really fit up your ass?

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 5:27:55 AM   
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why not

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 8:33:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: graceadieu


quote:

ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

So the play, and the sex, and the emotions are all pushing us to be together, the thought of not being together is awful.


You know, this caught my eye. You say this, but all you've talked about in this entire thread is how your BDSM play is really hot but also scary. Nothing about your relationship, who he is as a person, how you feel about each other, or really anything outside the bedroom.


True. But not because there are no emotions. I guess they just weren't a problematic aspect for me. He makes me feel very precious and loved when I'm with him. I fell asleep in his arms and woke up still there and I've never done that before, I always move away in the night.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 11:24:40 AM   
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Doth no compute with my finest brain sprockets -yes, well I decided that hamster in a wheel, who powers said sprockets require not hamster oil, but finest Chardonnay.

Yes, firstly to the singular question - anyone can be happy with anyone - but happiness is harder to recognize than most minions know. I presume one does not grasp the finer aspects of types out-with silly mislabels and misnomers

Master as you define it - has acted no differently to you as he does others! Were they all slaves methinks not. Merely requiring those susceptible to intoxicates. And no doubt a fine specimen such as myself is beating the wenches of with a stout stick or perhaps they are queuing 4 deep outside my door

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 11:44:47 AM   
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Doth no compute with my finest brain sprockets -yes, well I decided that hamster in a wheel, who powers said sprockets require not hamster oil, but finest Chardonnay.

Yes, firstly to the singular question - anyone can be happy with anyone - but happiness is harder to recognize than most minions know. I presume one does not grasp the finer aspects of types out-with silly mislabels and misnomers

Master as you define it - has acted no differently to you as he does others! Were they all slaves methinks not. Merely requiring those susceptible to intoxicates. And no doubt a fine specimen such as myself is beating the wenches of with a stout stick or perhaps they are queuing 4 deep outside my door


Oh MY MY MY MY MY that crazy talk made me fan myself, I just have to say you are one hot tamale Glasgow man. I rarely look at profiles. IM not looking, but Wow ladies.

Welcome to Collar chat Scot.

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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 12:58:50 PM   
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12 years and you still don't understand this? hhmm. I'm guessing 12 years of kinky sex and not D/s or M/s.


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RE: Can a Master be satisfied with a submissive? - 11/7/2012 1:02:20 PM   
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I was kind of thinking along those lines.....kinky sex does not a submissive/slave make.

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