juliaoceania
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Joined: 4/19/2006 From: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: artglfr Any sub wearing a collar just so they could watch and then decided she wanted to take the collar off and join the fun would be questioned...a collar is to most of us very sacred and special...to me it means I have been with this person enough to trust them and grant her this collar so all the world will know she is mine, she is special and precious. as for a new sub asking me to watch out for them, certainly most of us do it anyway at any Play environment just keep an eye out to see who is safe and who to watch more carefully. As for giving her a collar...NO not just no but hell No!!! Collars mean something to Me and to the people I associate with. They aren't just handed out to anyone who asks. As for protecting a new sub that ask I would and no collar would be necessary. I would keep her close and monitor her actions, question her on her views and introduce her to people I feel she may enjoy. I respectfully disagree, not everyone views collars this way. Maybe the people you know do, but there are some people that view them as a fetish object and they are not morally inferior for it. If someone wants to scene with a collar on so they can be controlled through collar bondage it is not the same as someone that wears a "full collar". I could make the distinction that not every ring is a wedding ring for example, it depends on the context of the ring as to what it means. Most people hate that analogy, but there it is. If my vanilla boyfriend bought me a pinkie ring or a toe ring, it would not be the same as an engagement or wedding ring. If my son buys me a mother's ring, it is not the same as a cocktail ring. I could buy myself a class ring, and it has no relationship connotation whatsoever. These symbols just are what they are. The collar to you is a symbol of commitment. Symbols are used to communicate meaning. Symbols mean different things to different people. Personally if I decided to wear such a collar I wouldn't take it off, but why do you think it is yours to question anyone? The said submissive doesnt belong to you, so why does it matter to you what she wears on her neck? I am really trying to understand and asking these questions sincerely. I understand that some people think that what others do in their life cheapens what they do in theirs. In other words some people think that it cheapens the collar as a symbol that others use it in a different way, but I do not view it that way. If you live in a small area and there are maybe 100 people that go to play parties or munches then I understand your opinions. But if you are going to go and play at a large club where anyone can go, such as the club I am going to next weekend, it is a whole different world. It is like comparing apples and oranges. The city I am going to is a megapolis with millions of people. Although there is a community of sorts, it is not the same as a smaller city. Not everyone knows each other, there are new people every weekend, and not everyone views collars the way you do. There are dominants there that think they can and should boss anyone that is a submissive, there are others that view it as a meat market and troll for subs. This behavior is discouraged, and the dungeon master will kick someone out for being disrespectful, but the disrespectful behavior still happens.
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