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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before.

I've seen it both with baby girls and with littles. R/L. They most surely DID consider themselves father and child.

As for screwing, they most certainly did and broadcasted that they did.. as father and daughter.
Sorry but...(shrugs)...I haven't seen it any other way.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

A daddy dom doesn’t consider himself my father or me his child. A daddy and his baby girl are not role-playing that they are “father and daughter” nor is a daddy and a little role playing that they are “father and daughter.”

A daddy dom, isn’t attracted to a baby girl or a little because he wants to fuck his daughter or any child for that matter. A baby girl or little isn’t attracted to her daddy because she wants to fuck her father. They are attracted to one another as the adults they are, but a daddy dom is also attracted to the child-like qualities that his baby girl or little hold. Their innocents, their behavior.

Although you see more daddy/baby girl relationships there is another dynamic that falls into this same group.
Those are the Mommies. Which are the exact counter part of the daddy, except women.

ETA: There are also baby boys and male littles which are the male counter part of a baby girl and female little.

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I am absolutely sympathetic to any person who finds themself wired this way and does not act on it. What a difficult life that must be! Imagine the difficulty in removing yourself from temptation, the loneliness of knowing you will likely never have an intimate relationship, the fear of others finding out and the backlash. I don't know what sort of help is out there for these people, but I'm guessing not much. People don't want to help paedophiles, even good paedophiles. In much of the UK, if you feel like you might abuse your partner or you have committed domestic abuse and you want to join a program to help you change your behaviour, you won't be eligible unless you have been convicted. There is little to no help for people who are trying to work on their issues without being forced. I imagine it is the same for paedophiles - you can't just go to Paedophiles anonymous. And if you could, would people go or would they be afraid of being outed? All in all, it's a horrible situation.

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before.

I've seen it both with baby girls and with littles. R/L. They most surely DID consider themselves father and child.

As for screwing, they most certainly did and broadcasted that they did.. as father and daughter.
Sorry but...(shrugs)...I haven't seen it any other way.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

A daddy dom doesn’t consider himself my father or me his child. A daddy and his baby girl are not role-playing that they are “father and daughter” nor is a daddy and a little role playing that they are “father and daughter.”

A daddy dom, isn’t attracted to a baby girl or a little because he wants to fuck his daughter or any child for that matter. A baby girl or little isn’t attracted to her daddy because she wants to fuck her father. They are attracted to one another as the adults they are, but a daddy dom is also attracted to the child-like qualities that his baby girl or little hold. Their innocents, their behavior.

Although you see more daddy/baby girl relationships there is another dynamic that falls into this same group.
Those are the Mommies. Which are the exact counter part of the daddy, except women.

ETA: There are also baby boys and male littles which are the male counter part of a baby girl and female little.

I'm really surprised. I think what LilSquaw is describing is the more common version of a daddy dom than a couple that actually take part in age play.

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before.

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ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne
My questions go beyond that.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

The so-called daddy dom is a creation of the Internet. Back a few years ago, I had coed subs and others under 30 since. Not a single one ever called me daddy let alone perceive me as one or a pedophile as of course they were all of age.

I beg to differ. Daddy Doms existed before the internet.

Thank you. It always bothers Me when people post such incorrect information.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

Although CollarMe does not use labels such as Daddy, Mommy, baby girl, baby boy, and little.

Fet does give you the option of Daddy, baby girl, and age player.

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before.

I've seen it both with baby girls and with littles. R/L. They most surely DID consider themselves father and child.

As for screwing, they most certainly did and broadcasted that they did.. as father and daughter.
Sorry but...(shrugs)...I haven't seen it any other way.

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

I'm sorry but I thought this thread wasn't about a personal vendetta. I thought you were genuinely interested in what a 'Daddy Dom' in general is, when in fact what you were doing is talking about an issue specific to you. I feel as though I have just been dragged into a kangaroo court and so at this point I'm out of here.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


In all of my years I had never even heard or read the abbreviation 'dom' for the word dominant. One was either dominant or not. That goes for any literature, film or otherwise.

Same for the expression daddy dom and to me, the whole idea does an injustice to couples I have known since before the net existed, enjoying extremely wide differences in age where none of these labels were ever used.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

The desire to molest children at any age, should be something the person seeks treatment for, not replacing the desires by acting it out on adults... they do need mental help and maybe to be locked up for the rest of their lives if they're the sort that is super dangerous and can not be turned around.

I forgot to mention earlier when I go to my child space we don't have sex or kinky interactions. It's to us akin to sexual abuse, I have been there, done that got the emotional scars, regression is my safe place away from adult cares.

All though I o have to be totally honest, sexual age play and incest fantasies and rape play are huge fantasies of mine in the adult kink world. Some of that may have come from being molested very early in my formative years. I still wouldn't want someone who lusted after real children and used me as his proxy.


I don't even think that's quite possible. As children and adults do not have the same qualities that a pedo would like. And there's just some things you can not fake.

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ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne


Judgmental? Really? Did you read the part where I posit that if a pedophile channels that desire into age-play with another adult, that they just might be a kind of hero? Please think about what kind of non-judgmental heart can think of another human being like that, when most want to just kill them.

To elaborate... my request that we not discuss the defense of the kink is because I am not saying there is anything wrong with the kink. I'm aware that the Daddy Dom being equated with a reviled pedophile is a long-standing misconception - one I don't have. That conversation has been done and redone. I am asking something else.

Your very first sentence answers one of my questions.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your candor, Toppingfrmbottom.

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ORIGINAL: Shininglight23

In post #39 you said, "I really appreciate the time and thought people are putting into this topic, but I am still waiting for more people to offer their answers to the questions I've asked in my OP. It's a lot to consider, but perhaps answering even one of the original 7 would be great."

I'm not a Daddy Dom, but I will answer your questions in reference to me.

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ORIGINAL: TwoHeartsBeatOne

I’m feeling paralyzed by fear. I don’t even know where to turn for answers. I am hoping that TOS guidelines won’t interfere with a rational and informative discussion of this topic. I simply seek clarity. These are my questions:

Question 1

Is a Daddy Dom a pedophile psychologically, but he behaves physically/sexually only with adults?

Am I psychologically damaged because I prefer older men? No. If I ever even suspected a man to have true pedophile feelings...I would be out of there so fast... I can't even tell you. The men I've been with...it's not a physical thing.. it's mental and emotional desire to love, care for, and guide their lg.

I believe people are sexually unique for three reasons:
1) Born that way You could say I was born this way... I never dated anyone under the age of 34... but I didn't start dating until 18.
2) An early event linked sexuality and (fill in the blank/fetish) You can say that as well... my earliest sexual experience was when I was 18..with an older man.
3) Choice. I choose to be with older men because I like them more.


Question 2

So, if a guy is sexually aroused and attracted to all things youthful and he acts on it, it’s a crime and a horror. But, if that same guy channels those feelings into mutually consensual behavior with another adult, or adults, then I think we’d all want to support that “use” of those feelings, right?

I'm not sure if I'm understanding this question correctly, but I will give it a shot. What makes you think that all Daddy Doms are attracted to all things youthful? Are you talking about coloring and barbies? I think you're implying that ALL Daddy Doms have pedophilia feelings, and some choose to use them in a non-criminal way. That is an incorrect assumption. I wouldn't support the "use" of any true pedophilia feelings. Ever.

Question 3

Daddy Doms and pedophiles “groom” the focus of their attention, using praise, gifts and a sense of dependence. But do they share these other qualities as well:
1. I would think any partner I'm with should focus some attention on me and the relationship.
2. Praise is another word for... words of affirmation. In my opinion.. they are required for a healthy.. well balanced relationship. Who doesn't want to know they are appreciated?
3. A gift can be making a special meal for absolutely no reason. It can be creating a scrapbook to show how those moments meant something to you. Gifts are nice, and given by both parties in my relationship.
4. I'm a "free spirit" as he likes to say... and although I depend on him for moral support and help in making good judgements.. if I chose a path he didn't think was the best... he would chalk it up to.. "learning from my mistakes"

-a self-image as being younger than they really are? He knows he's older than I am.. he especially feels it when we go hiking.

-inability to maintain peer relationships? He has more peer relationships than I do. Talk about a "Chatty Charlie."

-a need for isolation, control and secrecy? Again, I'm a "free spirit".. he has some control.. but feels no need for secrecy and to isolate me.

-shame, self-loathing, but with a charming façade? He has no shame or self-loathing... he's his best promoter! He is rather charming.

- (fill in the blank with your own observations)?



Question 4

To anyone who has seen the film, “The Woodsman,” which shows how a woman accepts a pedophile’s need to express his sexuality in specific ways with her, do you agree that the Daddy Dom relationship is much like this? I've never seen it.

Question 5

As a submissive who is also a parent, how do you handle both your own emotions, and your responsibility to protect, knowing the Daddy Dom’s preference for youth? I'm not a parent. Are you asking how would someone protect their children around their significant other? If that's the case... they're with a pedophile, and NOT a Daddy Dom.

Question 6

As an aging human, how does it feel to be with a guy who is attracted to a look – an illusion – that will become more difficult to create with each passing day? I’m assuming that this feels good, or at least okay, but I wonder how that is achieved. He isn't attracted to a look or an illusion.. he is attracted to me.. a whole person. He knew me when I was 19, and he knows me now as a 24 year old. I don't fear for the day that I turn 25 or 26 or 35.. if our relationship is what we both believe it to be.. age is only a number. For us...our relationship is based on our emotional connection and our desire to be by each others side.

Question 7

To Daddy Doms & those they partner with & with everyone in our community…

What is being done already to protect innocents from harm? (This is at the core of what frightens me… is there a difference, if so, how can we tell?) How many "innocents" are on this site? We're all deviants. If you are again talking about protecting children.. then you're talking about a pedophile and not a Daddy Dom.

I sincerely hope we can skip the defense of the kink… THAT is not the issue, and there is an abundance of that point of view already. Could we focus on this other concern, please?

Thank you, Everyone.

I hope this cleared some things up...again, I answered all your questions from my perspective...

Please read the link I attached in the cmail.

Allie

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

You'll have to excuse me, but this paragraph is beyond any amount of logic or emotional tenderness I can fathom!!!

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I am absolutely sympathetic to any person who finds themself wired this way and does not act on it. What a difficult life that must be! Imagine the difficulty in removing yourself from temptation, the loneliness of knowing you will likely never have an intimate relationship, the fear of others finding out and the backlash. I don't know what sort of help is out there for these people, but I'm guessing not much. People don't want to help paedophiles, even good paedophiles. In much of the UK, if you feel like you might abuse your partner or you have committed domestic abuse and you want to join a program to help you change your behaviour, you won't be eligible unless you have been convicted. There is little to no help for people who are trying to work on their issues without being forced. I imagine it is the same for paedophiles - you can't just go to Paedophiles anonymous. And if you could, would people go or would they be afraid of being outed? All in all, it's a horrible situation.

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady



Thirdly, although you claim no sex with your Daddy, I recall not long ago a thread you started in which you asked for ideas to turn your Daddy on for "sexy time." I've also read in more than one of your posts some very detailed scenarios of your sex life with your Daddy.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

This is going to come off wrong but..........

Have you considered that you may need to get out more?

What she describes is far more common than the other way around.
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
In all of my years I had never even heard or read the abbreviation 'dom' for the word dominant. One was either dominant or not. That goes for any literature, film or otherwise.

Same for the expression daddy dom and to me, the whole idea does an injustice to couples I have known since before the net existed, enjoying extremely wide differences in age where none of these labels were ever used.

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I'm into pet play. Does that make my partner a beastialist?

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Strangely enough, in 30+ years of this I have never seen a DD/bg couple who DID consider themselves father/child.
YMMV

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LilSquaw? With all due respect for YOUR Daddy relationship, I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen a relationship as yours...(see what I quoted you as saying below) before.

I've seen it both with baby girls and with littles. R/L. They most surely DID consider themselves father and child.

As for screwing, they most certainly did and broadcasted that they did.. as father and daughter.
Sorry but...(shrugs)...I haven't seen it any other way.

(in reply to Hillwilliam)