MsMJAY
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Not the question I was asking. I'll attempt to clarify (I accept that my question wasn't clear).
Assumption #1: Your sole method of birth control consists of using a condom.
Assumption #2: In the past 6 months, half the time you had sex, you didn't use a condom (the other half you used a condom properly).
Assumption #3: You have sex tonight.
If you use a condom properly during sex tonight, is your risk of getting pregnant from tonight's sex higher, lower, or the same because you didn't use any birth control half the time in the previous 6 months?
If you use a condom properly during sex tonight, is your risk of getting pregnant from tonight's sex higher, lower, or the same if Assumption #2 was that you used a condom properly every time you had sex in the previous 6 months?
Let's start with the fact that what you just asked is not quantifiable. No one can tell you what the chances are of you getting someone pregnant THIS SINGLE TIME you have sex and use a condom. That has never been tested. That is simply not how birth control is tested. They do not give women pregnancy tests after every sexual encounter to see if the BC worked.
You cannot just make up your own test for birth control then compare it to other methods. It has to be tested by the same standard as every other BC method or you cannot use it for comparison
What you don't seem to understand is that a 98% effective rate does not mean that if you have sex 100 times that 2 of those times will result in pregnancy. It means that out of 100 couples who used condoms over a year's time, 2 of the women became pregnant during that year. THIS is how all methods of birth control are evaluated. You cannot apply a self-created test here then compare the results to BC methods that followed the correct test procedure. You cannot do it with condoms and you certainly cannot do it with abstinence.
You cannot make it up then call it science. If we can all make up our own tests with our own parameters then every method would be 100% effective.
You can't even answer directly, either. I wasn't looking for a listing of the exact odds.
I think we both agree that having sex with a condom is more effective at preventing pregnancies than having sex without a condom. Do you agree that if you don't have sex, you don't get pregnant?
If the last time you had sex, you used a condom correctly, what impact does that have on your chances of getting pregnant the next time you have sex (assuming the results of your previous encounter did not result in a pregnancy)?
It has no impact because last time it was 100% effective. By that standard it is a virtual 100% certainty that I will not get pregnant this time. Your standard makes condoms a 100% effective form of birth control. If every instance of sexual activity is counted individually that means every time I don't get pregnant the condom was 100% effective. By your own logic you just made condoms 100% effective in preventing pregnancy.
The reason you don't want to evaluate abstinence by the same method other birth control methods are evaluated by because when real scientific standards are used, abstinence is a dismal failure.
What percent of people get chose abstinence as their method of birth control get pregnant? (studies show that sexual behavior in those who choose abstinence is virtually identical to the sexual behavior of those who do not and that abstinence choosers are more likely to get pregnancy an STDs because they are less likely to use any REAL birth control.)
Studies showed that 5 years after pledging to use abstinence as their birth control, those who pledged to practice abstinence had the same rate of sexual activity as those who did not pledge. Also 82% of those who pledged to use abstinence denied that they ever took the pledge.
THAT is your statistic on abstinence effectiveness. THAT is the failure rate for using abstinence as a method of birth control.
An article from Christianity Today stated that LINK ... teens who took a virginity pledge have sexual relationships that are nearly identical to those of similar teens who did not make such a pledge. Taking a virginity pledge is at best ineffective, and may even be dangerous for the health of those who break their pledge.
Apparently even Christianity Today gets its. When evaluated by the same standards as other BC methods. (not just some stuff you make up.) abstinence is a failure.
But feel free to ignore the evidence and just shout "winning!" like Charlie Sheen does.
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