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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/9/2015 10:46:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kittenluv954

I just can't honestly believe we are talking about what's extreme beliefs, and what isn't... you do realize EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE is considered a nut case by vanillas right? for our "deviant" behavior, with "abusers" and we are all fucked in the head according to THEIR beliefs... I'm just really in awe that so many hypocrites are in this thread. "its ok for me to believe and practice what I want, but nobody else can, it's wrong" just ROFL. seriously I LOL'd.


Pretty much this, we might as well paint everyone here with the scarlet letter A in that case. LOL!

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/9/2015 1:20:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

Please note that my question is about CONSENSUAL male supremacy.

This means that *amongst those who have consented* there is an agreement to see men as the supreme sex.


So, male supremacy... does that mean that the greatest woman is still lesser than the least of men?

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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12
And yet, I bet those same people have no issue with the many female supremacist Dommes at all, most likely because they see it as harmless.


Subs who come to me claiming female supremacy are instantly disqualified from my service. I know a lot of idiots of both sexes. Being female (or male), in my view has no ability to bestow supremacy.


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

For some reason, I have the line from Spiderman (?) running through my head-- "With great power comes great responsibility".

"Son, your penis gives you great power, but you have to use it responsibly. Those without a penis don't understand how much of a burden it is to live as a superior being. That's just how they are. Don't blame them though-- they had no choice in not having a penis. Those without a penis will look up to you, and view you as superior. Make sure that you give up your seat for them, or open doors for them-- they need to see these simple things as an outward expression of your superiority. It makes them feel better about viewing you as a superior being. You will see, as you grow older, how emotional those without a penis can be. Again, don't blame them for this, as they had no choice in it. You just be the best person with a penis you can be."


*guffaws*


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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/9/2015 4:06:20 PM   
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No. Choosing a male or female led relationship is different than supremacy:

Supremacy is defined as: the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status.

All others is the major issue I have with it.


Considering the way we abuse words in other forms of roleplay around here: "slave", "forced", "pet", "puppy", "daddy", "schoolgirl", etc. I'm not inclined to be a strict dictionary lawyer when it comes to peoples fetish roleplays. The only word I'll be a stickler on is consent. As long as it's consensual, as in the people exposed to the sentiments of supremacy/inferiority have all specifically agreed to be involved *shrug* then it's none of my business.

I will however take the stand that the moment someone who didn't consent becomes involved it becomes horribly offensive bigotry. But I do hope that's not what we're talking about here and the OP used a term which would seem to imply that my hope is based on some solid footing.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/9/2015 5:31:06 PM   
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It has been suggested several times we are talking about it as a belief system not role play. I already said I don't have issues with it in role play. Everyone is upset that I am maintaining this belief system is sexist- no matter how you slice it- but I guess if they don't talk about it or not hire a woman because a man applied for the same position- who cares right?

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 4:02:13 AM   
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Belief systems can be dangerous. I don't think any supremacy is a good belief system. I think if someone joins the KKK but never burns a cross or kills a black or marches with them, they are still part of an oppressive and dangerous belief system and they are sure as hell still racist.

I think believing in supremacy, no matter how you spin it, is extreme.
Choosing and consenting for a male led or female led relationship for yourself? Fine.
Thinking that it would work for everyone else? Extreme, short sighted, dangerous.


OMG......absolutey shifty....absolutely


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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 4:07:36 AM   
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but the very first line in this statement conflicts with the last. is it a kink, or isn't it? honestly, and this is just a guess. but I think something in this entire topic is just triggered something in you to fight. this is coming from someplace personal, and really not about the discussion topic IMO. as for the "everyone has kinks they think are immoral or wrong" I really don't. I have kinks I find disgusting, way too edgy FOR ME, and things that are just straight up fucking strange, and I have no idea how ANYONE can be into it. I just avoid those things like the plague, but I don't take them up as a personal crusade to fight against. this is all just discussion for conversation sake. but I get the feeling it just strikes a raw nerve here, so any discussion at that point is futile.



Believing that you are superior to your female or male partner because they are your partner and that's the kind of relationship you like is a KINK.

Believing that ALL of one gender is superior to the other gender is NOT kink, it is rude and prejudice and sexist.


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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 10:53:11 AM   
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There's a pretty broad swath of worldviews out there. In my opinion the idea of gender supremacy is about as valid as the rest. which is to say, not very.



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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 2:19:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
It has been suggested several times we are talking about it as a belief system not role play. I already said I don't have issues with it in role play. Everyone is upset that I am maintaining this belief system is sexist- no matter how you slice it- but I guess if they don't talk about it or not hire a woman because a man applied for the same position- who cares right?


If we're talking about this as a belief system I think it comes with a white hood and a burning cross, so I certainly hope we aren't talking about it as an actual belief system.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 2:40:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw
It has been suggested several times we are talking about it as a belief system not role play. I already said I don't have issues with it in role play. Everyone is upset that I am maintaining this belief system is sexist- no matter how you slice it- but I guess if they don't talk about it or not hire a woman because a man applied for the same position- who cares right?

If we're talking about this as a belief system I think it comes with a white hood and a burning cross, so I certainly hope we aren't talking about it as an actual belief system.


In the original posting, an actual belief system was included in the questions.
Then as role play.
Back to an [intimate] relationship based on Male Supremacy.
Female Supremacy came up.

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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

I'm just really curious if anyone here does this, believes this, role plays it or wants a relationship based on it?

How exactly do you perceive male supremacy? Why do you like it? How are your relationships structured to accommodate this? What reactions have you had from people regarding this?


We were asked to give our opinions, and in doing so, the reasons why have been described.
Some posters decided to take this personally, in defense of their Supremacist views, or else to throw out the "hypocrite" card as to what each of us believes constitutes a kink or what doesn't.

I don't think anybody here has expressed having any real issue with role play as play, only when it crosses over as an extension of a personally-held worldview.

There are women of many ilks who have come to the conclusion that "Men are pigs," but who haven't turned away from heterosexuality, so I shall conclude although this is a sweeping sexist generalization, it does not necessarily make for a Female Supremacist. It could, but not necessarily.

The same with men who might make sexist remarks like "Women are gold-digging whores." I once got into a heated argument with a male relative who kept going around saying that "All women are whores," even married women, and it was the categorical "All" I took the most exception to. If he had been phrasing this as some women act like whores, then he wouldn't have been so offensively sexist. (He would also make "All n's" racist statements, too.)

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 2:45:08 PM   
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I agree with dreamlady. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Does it change other people's sexuality? Not really. This is just another extension of sexuality like Master and slave. Does it mean suddenly people support human trafficking? LMAO, But I digress.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 4:26:55 PM   
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I think supremacy goes far beyond the reaches of sexuality...UNLESS it is roleplay.

Supremacy means a woman doesn't get a job if the male supremacist is hiring.
*THAT* is my problem here.

And also...all sorts of things are extensions of sexuality?
Attraction to children or animals.
Murder can be sexually arousing to people.
Rape.

Why are THOSE totally ok to say are horrible- but not this?

If its role play, whatever. If you are a supremacist- it extends beyond your sexuality. It feeds into how you treat those you feel superior over and how you view the world.

Recently on a show I'm too embarassed to admit I was watching...a contestant said "God made woman to serve man, from man. We have to treat them with respect, but these girls here aren't our wives, they're just trash." <---That is a male supremacist to me. And that is so much disrespect and in my opinion a wildly warped view of the world- and effecting ALLLLLLL the women around him and who have to interact with him- and I think it is distasteful, extreme, and sexist as shit.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 4:38:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
In the original posting, an actual belief system was included in the questions.
Then as role play.
Back to an [intimate] relationship based on Male Supremacy.
Female Supremacy came up.


The OP also almost immediately made the following clarification:

quote:

ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12
Please note that my question is about CONSENSUAL male supremacy.

This means that *amongst those who have consented* there is an agreement to see men as the supreme sex.

Thinking whatever you prefer to think about your relationship is nobody else's business, however supremacist it is.

Attempting to enforce your 'supremacy' with those who don't consent to be part of your belief system is not consensual, and is outside of the remit of this question.

Once again, I am only asking about *consensual* male supremacy.

Many thanks.


So I've been figuring that he's talking about people making decisions based on the premise "men are superior" at for example a large scale gorean event and then abandoning that premise when they head to work on Monday. Which I'd consider VERY different from always holding that sexist premise but only discussing it openly with other members of the Klan.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 4:50:46 PM   
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Well...that may very well be...but to me that didn't read the same way. And when I said I had no problem with role play, no one bothered to let it go.
To me what that post speaks to is consensual male led relationships. Or believing that is right FOR YOU.
Supremacy- again- to me speaks to believing you are better than all women- if that is truly a belief- it doesn't "stay at home". Believing you are superior to your partner only is your business, having them treat all men at one event superior or for a given time frame is your business (sorta, like I said earlier- I don't necessarily like to be treated inferior or superior in these instances unless asked...but I'm really not going to disagree with someone being polite to me)- I agree. But to me that is role playing.

Supremacy is the male subs who email my female bisexual sub profile and say "Oh women are all meant to be worshipped can I eat you out for 16 hours please beautiful? Will you treat me like the scum male pig I am?"

Or the guy who says "I'm a man so you have to be my submissive! You woman!"
Or the guy who emails around asking if you "Know a woman's place!! AT HER MAN'S FEET!"

Simply-I see that as forcing your beliefs in supremacy on the rest of society. If you agree he is supreme to you in your relationship, like I already said 600 times in this thread- that is choosing a male led relationship- not a belief in supremacy.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 5:06:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

So I've been figuring that he's talking about people making decisions based on the premise "men are superior" at for example a large scale gorean event and then abandoning that premise when they head to work on Monday. Which I'd consider VERY different from always holding that sexist premise but only discussing it openly with other members of the Klan.


I don't think that there was ever any question that orgasmdenial12 meant consensual dynamics.

What is being stressed, however, is that Supremacist thinking extends beyond the confines of one's home into a personal philosophy. It's the philosophical basis which is being addressed.

I don't know enough about Goreans to comment, other than what they do in the privacy of their own homes, legally and consensually with their partners is their own business. I have heard that they don't consider their lifestyle to be BDSM. I will refrain from commenting on their beliefs about actual slavery vs. M/s consensual slavery which can be terminated by the slave, or whether their slaves are allowed to safe word or have any equal rights.

I can't say one way or another whether Supremacists abandon their thinking at home. Philosophically, I would expect to see carryover - as with racists - but I could be mistaken.

There have been numerous occasions where I have heard male Dominants say that ALL women are NATURALLY SUBMISSIVE, that it is an inborn trait which applies to EVERY FEMALE, not just the majority of females. That there is no such thing as a Dominant woman, and that we don't exist. This is Male Supremacist thinking, and it goes hand in hand with treating women as inferior beings.

Edit - clarity

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 5:23:23 PM   
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^^ Ditto that.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 6:42:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

I think supremacy goes far beyond the reaches of sexuality...UNLESS it is roleplay.

Supremacy means a woman doesn't get a job if the male supremacist is hiring.
*THAT* is my problem here.

And also...all sorts of things are extensions of sexuality?
Attraction to children or animals.
Murder can be sexually arousing to people.
Rape.

Why are THOSE totally ok to say are horrible- but not this?

If its role play, whatever. If you are a supremacist- it extends beyond your sexuality. It feeds into how you treat those you feel superior over and how you view the world.

Recently on a show I'm too embarassed to admit I was watching...a contestant said "God made woman to serve man, from man. We have to treat them with respect, but these girls here aren't our wives, they're just trash." <---That is a male supremacist to me. And that is so much disrespect and in my opinion a wildly warped view of the world- and effecting ALLLLLLL the women around him and who have to interact with him- and I think it is distasteful, extreme, and sexist as shit.


LMAO! What does any of this have to do with the cost of tea in China honestly? It's so funny how people can all nod in agreement about something unfamiliar to them or they don't understand. Why do you even in the wildest of dreams believe someone like you can tell me about myself or my dynamic or define it for me or anyone else for that matter? It's really so...amusing to me honestly, LOL! Sorry, I'm trying to take this seriously but there are real causes out there in the world you can devote your time to if you're that concerned with injustice. I don't have to act like a human rights activist on a forum in order to get applause. There's talk vs action and well you know, reality and all.
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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 7:38:54 PM   
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I really don't have a problem with you. Fuck- I considered you a friend until you started being totally condescending. In fact- if you have a personal problem with me why not message me on the other side?

We have different ideas about what supremacy is. I really don't think you're understanding my stance- and I don't know how else to explain it. Supremacy, as a belief system- has ALWAYS been how you view EVERYONE in the world. Not just your collared, or your wife or what have you. I think its a terrible idea because I think all the sexes lend to society and no one should be considered only upon what is between their legs.

I think what you're talking about is role play or a FLR- I don't think you or your sub want him to view ALL women in the same SUPREME light. I think you're trying way to hard to defend it otherwise.

I don't want someone to respect or disrespect me based on my gender alone. If a man feels he is superior to me because he is a man- I have a problem with them. You can say its an extension of his sexuality- but I refuse to see it as anything other than sexism in that situation.

Like I said before- I have NO ISSUE- with role play. BUT if anyone tells their sub- "Do you consent to see all men as superior and your gender as inferior?"- they can consent all they want- it doesn't mean ALL men have consented. Certainly certain folks of certain kneels and orientations are going to disagree with that thinking and they aren't possibly consenting to be seen as superior based on their sex. So...to me...it isn't "happy consent" because it is IMPOSSIBLE to get consent of an entire gender.

And if I were doing this for applause- don't you think there would be a lot more? Do you think I'm holding the popular opinion here? Because I sure as hell don't. And I HAD thought of you as a friend and clearly these ideals of mine are making you feel incapable of that- and I'm sorry for that. But clearly we aren't communicating well- I'd love to speak with you off the board if you'd like- if you have nothing more to say- I'm sorry for that too- but clearly neither of us get where the other is coming from. I'm curious how I can explain my point of view better to you and where this miscommunication is happening.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 8:45:17 PM   
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shifty, I like you too. But you tend to ask very personal questions. Maybe you don't realize you do it but on the other thread, how would it "come across" if shoe on the other foot, I ask you how many dicks you have seen or had inside you? My answer was tame really in response. Your question was condescending, do you get that? You questioning my dynamic is condescending, so maybe I am going to respond in kind if I feel disrespected. And some of you just don't see how venomous you get to someone you don't even know (not directed at you shifty). It was just really personal and information I would rather willfully volunteer than be put on the spot. To answer you I am a member of several Women's Organizations, including one with Ivanka Trump as one of our spokespeople. I am very supportive of women, I'm less sadistic with women, I'm friendlier with women etc. This is what I mean, some of you, especially those outside of such a dynamic presume to have all the answers and some times you don't. To be honest I wasn't gonna do this, I feel like I give out too much information about myself on the forums as is but most of it is very harmless. But I try to keep my life pretty compartmentalized and would appreciate people stop trying to bandwagon to make me lose credibility or whatever it is they're doing. Am I biased towards women in my day to day? Yes. But it's in a very constructive and positive way. So no, I'm not a "Nazi" or "terrorist" like someone else tried to suggest. Geez...
Also if it is any bit of insight to the type of person I am, I was a human rights activist for many years and had a very large following and relatively well known in some political circles. I mean really? Does it have to go so far someone has to bare their personal life for you to be satisfied? Based on these forums honestly, I would avoid munches like the plague. My silence and my reassurance should be enough. So no, I do not roleplay. You can choose to live with that or not.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 9:13:04 PM   
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Hun- that wasn't meant to be that personal, and I didn't expect you to answer it for real! I'm sorry you felt you should! I was trying to point out that crumpets, as a straight man, may not have had to fit different condoms on different cocks and perhaps his problem with condoms was specific to him and his experience. I am very open about that with all sorts of people, I don't consider it all that personal for myself, but completely didn't expect you to answer it if you didn't want to. Like I said- I was more proving a point that perhaps crumpets wasn't the be all end all of cock sizes and women's opinions about dicks.

I'm really just using what you said in here as an example, I'm not trying to personally attack you, just answer your posts with what you had provided earlier in the thread. You said he believed in supremacy- I went from there and WHY I wouldn't consent to him seeing ME as supreme, and how that is therefore not consensual supremacy, not in my book. I'm not trying to define your relationship, I'm trying to help you see how I am viewing it from over here. I'm sorry you felt personally attacked- but really- it was not meant like that and more as an example because you said he believed in supremacy. I certainly don't have all the answers and would rather have a conversation where I come to an understanding of your view. I STILL view your view as a FLR and not supremacy. To me supremacy requires a lot of hate, and I'm defining it differently than you, and I think you think I'm assuming you're some kind of nazi or crazy person. You don't fit my definition of supremacy- and thats a good thing to me. I don't view it as an extension of sexuality- I view it as hateful garbage of whatever you view as less superior based on, in this case, gender. I think being biased on a day to day basis and in work and life is really hard to do in a constructive way- and I disagree with carrying it outside of role play (clearly). I'm about equality- not superiority- and I feel that is clear in what I say, have said, and who I am. As someone who has hiring/firing power in real life- I'm always careful to make sure my personal feelings and bias aren't effecting any of those decisions so that the best person really does get the job. For example- we had one employee who would always show up late. I'm not going to cut her any slack because she has kids, or is a lady- she needs to be kept to the same standards as everyone else- or if she has childcare issues- talk to me to work around it, just like everyone else. I don't think it would be fair to fire her or not fire her based on anything beyond her work performance.

I've explained my stance six hundred times on here...and I've agreed with dreamlady on several points you also agreed on- so I'm unsure of where you took such personal offense to my view only.

Also, I'm really pretty offended that you assume I'm not active in human rights in real life. Or that I would use this as leverage or popularity points on a fucking message board. If anything my feminist view has ALWAYS made me less desirable and I've always had to defend it- it has not once made anything easier in the kink world. It is in fact a major reason I fall out of kink, often.

I stopped attending munches because the leader of the last one I attended was sorta a male supremacist. He thought that because I was a female sub I should just do whatever he said and that I wasn't allowed to have limits and he would decide those limits for me. So I guess you're right in that regard, I shouldn't attend munches, because I don't take kindly to that bullshit.

I am sorry you felt bandwagoned. I certainly can say I really didn't mean to cause that- and perhaps that is because your view and definition of supremacy is different from several other folks? I don't know.

I don't know anything anymore, and I'm sorry for causing you such distress- you are never at any liberty to share anything with me you don't want to.

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RE: Bit Controversial - Consensual Male Supremacy? - 3/10/2015 9:27:08 PM   
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I never said you weren't active in human rights and have no idea where you got that from, what I said is someone outside of this dynamic cannot understand it. I have friends who are somewhat of male supremacists, most white collared businessmen tend to be as men REALLY enjoy dealing with other men in business statistically speaking. But I respect them. They have their "bromance, man cave, cigar filled rooms" and that's OK. Would I like to be taken more seriously by some of them and for them to see me not only as an intellectual equal but potential business partner? Sure, but there's something really hilarious/adorable about the fact that they think I can't handle it. It doesn't hurt our friendship in any way. They respect me greatly and they acknowledge me as someone worthy of respect, that's enough for me. One will drop everything and be late to meetings just to listen to me if I need him to and sometimes I need people like that to "keep going". Though it has been a long time since I've had to. And to these men TIME is really, really important and being late almost never happens so that in itself speaks volumes to me.
My point always has been that the word "Supremacy" can be very individually conceptualized and has ZERO to do with oppression, at all.
By the way, I'm not in distress, no worries LOL. I just thought I should stop being playful and get more serious since you seem pretty passionate about this topic. And the guy at the munch just sounds like a jerk if you ask me. I'm too honest for that dude, I'd get kicked out and word would spread about me like wildfire, hahaha.

< Message edited by GoddessManko -- 3/10/2015 9:42:38 PM >


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