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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:32:28 AM

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I don't believe it because it doesn't resemble my experience. And I don't view people that way at all- like this sounds humble brag but it's just true- I could give a shit about money and looks. Maybe it's a fairytale I tell myself- but I've dated people of all sorts- from 4"8' to 6'5", from 100lbs to 350lbs, bi, straight, wealthy, not wealthy- these things arent valuable to me- and I think being told that everyone else ranks them that high is kinda weird to me, it's just not how I view these things. Given that I'm in a successful relationship and have had several- the majority of which started online- makes me wonder a lot of things- I mean- I'm slutty, overweight, and can be really butch. I'm having a hard time accepting that I'm some exception to the rule- but I suppose it's possible.

I struggle hard with my weight- that's no secret. I'm in therapy and working on it and have been pretty successful now that I'm medicated correctly- it's still slow and awful with hypothyroidism and I'll likey struggle with it my whole life. Maybe I just don't want to accept its the most important thing about me and it's been controlled by a pesky little organ that went awry. Or maybe I'm afraid all this means if I ever get cancer or maimed in an accident or what have you and lose what I already cling to with my looks no one will love me because I won't be feminine enough. I can cop to it being insecurity.

I have cancer and am overweight and somehow managed to find a husband, been in long term relationships and still get hit on all the time, and shockingly, every guy was considered very good looking (by others, not just me) and all had great physiques.

The only thing that changed recently is age and health related, which makes my search for a new partner more difficult because on top of being picky in the cerebral aspect of what I want, he would have to deal with a woman with health issues.

So don't worry about what may happen, just enjoy what you have now. It's all working for you.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:38:42 AM

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I agree with you on this shifty.................my preferences match very few of my friends but everybody is differences and has different wants needs and preferences. My mates think I am weird because I like small-breasted women. The smaller the better but that's just me. My other preferences have pretty wide latitudes *smile*.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:44:08 AM

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I don't think the measure of a woman is based on how attractive men find her. I feel like there is a lot of this "how others perceive me" mantra going and I believe self perception/reality and experience are more important than that. There's nothing wrong with having standards for yourself and being happy in your own company. Not being in a relationship is perfectly fine and doesn't make a person less attractive.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:46:24 AM

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I always reckon..................just be yourself. Everybody likes somebody for who they are, WHOEVER they are, not for who they pretend to be.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:46:29 AM

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Men judge women based upon their perceived promiscuity, out of fear of measuring up.

Fixed that for you.

No. All you did was telegraph your own weakness.

Why? Slutty chicks are more fun to hang out with. I don't recommend having a screamer as a roommate though.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 12:50:39 AM

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Why? Slutty chicks are more fun to hang out with. I don't recommend having a screamer as a roommate though.

Lol, slutty boys too.

Why the screaming though? Hard limit! Don't scream til I at least give you a reason to, dang it.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 1:04:17 AM

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Why? Slutty chicks are more fun to hang out with. I don't recommend having a screamer as a roommate though.

Lol, slutty boys too.
Why the screaming though? Hard limit! Don't scream til I at least give you a reason to, dang it.

Nah, I had a very vocal female roommate for a while. She was vanilla back then, but louder during sex than I'd been able to get any of my guys at the time.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:43:50 AM

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In my experience this has been true with vanilla men when my lack of desire to sleep with them would leave them baffled. So it was the sheer opposite of slut shaming. It was strange how there was an almost automatic expectation of it across the board but then I don't think my outfits back then suggested otherwise.

Generally speaking men interact with women to fuck them. If you're on a date, the aim is generally to fuck you.

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Now I grunge it down a bit for first encounters and friendzone everyone. Simplifies things that way. Last vanilla I dated was hilarious, he said "can't we be friends...plus?" "No, no, not with benefits...but you know...plus." He was really nice but yea, no.
My bestie was the one who told me I weaponize my sexuality. I thought about it intensely and he was right so I have to make conscious efforts not to or it's in autopilot.

Asking is the most pathetic way to attempt to fuck a woman. Men don't ask, they seduce.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:45:50 AM

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Why? Slutty chicks are more fun to hang out with.

Why?

Secondly, when looking for a woman as a mate or - God forbid - a wife, why would a man bother with a slutty chick when he can simply go for the one who's harder to fuck?

This stuff really is amateur hour.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 5:58:37 AM

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I always reckon..................just be yourself. Everybody likes somebody for who they are, WHOEVER they are, not for who they pretend to be.

God, isn't that the truth? I'm just recalling on the 'groupies' that incarcerated psycho killers seem to attract.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 7:29:57 AM

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welp, i guess i dont have to wonder why im single anymore. im not skinny, nor am i ultrafemme. im also one of the 2% that expect a man to be attractive TO ME. i certainly dont want to feel like i need to stay drunk just in case he wants to touch me. guess i'll pack it in and go home now lol, mystery solved.

*not for unholybear but his quote rather*

So you think you're entitled to a guy with a decent set of abs and a cute face, but you think he isn't. What's wrong with this picture?

By reacting in such a way, you're telegraphing your lack of happiness. There's no reason for any woman to regard what I said as a personal condemnation unless she's insecure.

Your insecurity is a lot more unattractive than anything else.

i actually never defined what i find attractive, but nice try at painting me a hypocrite. as for my security, i think you missed manko's post on that, as she knows me and you do not. again, nice try.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 10:11:25 AM

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I am asking members to stop responding to someone here to inflame the forum. It would help a lot.

Thank you

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 1:32:12 PM

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i actually never defined what i find attractive, but nice try at painting me a hypocrite.

Actually you DID. I specifically said that 2-5% of women want the cute face and a set of abs. You responded by saying " im also one of the 2% that expect a man to be attractive TO ME." , specifically referencing my statement. (If you're going to try and say you weren't referencing what I said, then I call bullshit, because otherwise your entire sentiment is unrelated to the discussion at all - in which case you're just confused.)

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as for my security, i think you missed manko's post on that, as she knows me and you do not. again, nice try.

She may think she knows you, but in 5 seconds the bitterness in your response tells me more than she ever could.

One of the mistakes people make is to presume they're opaque. They're not. The people with the strongest emotional responses are generally the most transparent. Your response is not the response of a secure woman who disagrees. It's the response of a bitter, disappointed woman.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 1:48:04 PM

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i actually never defined what i find attractive, but nice try at painting me a hypocrite.
Actually you DID. I specifically said that 2-5% of women want the cute face and a set of abs. You responded by saying " im also one of the 2% that expect a man to be attractive TO ME." , specifically referencing my statement. (If you're going to try and say you weren't referencing what I said, then I call bullshit, because otherwise your entire sentiment is unrelated to the discussion at all - in which case you're just confused.)

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as for my security, i think you missed manko's post on that, as she knows me and you do not. again, nice try.
She may think she knows you, but in 5 seconds the bitterness in your response tells me more than she ever could.

Disagree.

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One of the mistakes people make is to presume they're opaque. They're not. The people with the strongest emotional responses are generally the most transparent.

Agree.

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Your response is not the response of a secure woman who disagrees. It's the response of a bitter, disappointed woman.

Perhaps if you lack a sense of humor.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 1:54:28 PM

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You have to understand Manko, women have this thing called "own group preference". It basically means that in any situation, women will tend to support each other versus a man, irrespective of the merits of the situation. So I've seen women support each other pretty outrageously online for some time. I really don't put much stock in your proclamation of her virtues because it follows the same mutual ego-stroking template which women have been employing online for forever. So if you think your assessment has any credibility in my eyes, then that really is wishful thinking.

The real problem, however, is that your testimony around her is pretty inconsistent with her actions. Action - as they say - reveals character.

If you genuinely think she's secure, then you're a poor judge of character.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:20:03 PM

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You have to understand Manko, women have this thing called "own group preference". It basically means that in any situation, women will tend to support each other versus a man, irrespective of the merits of the situation. So I've seen women support each other pretty outrageously online for some time. I really don't put much stock in your proclamation of her virtues because it follows the same mutual ego-stroking template which women have been employing online for forever. So if you think your assessment has any credibility in my eyes, then that really is wishful thinking.

The real problem, however, is that your testimony around her is pretty inconsistent with her actions. Action - as they say - reveals character.

If you genuinely think she's secure, then you're a poor judge of character.

How many secure people have you met or witnessed in your life exactly?

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:24:38 PM

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How many secure people have you met or witnessed in your life exactly?

Strangely enough, I don't keep a count. Do you regularly perform statistical analysis on the attributes of character in everyone you meet?

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:26:32 PM

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I do ;) but that's because that's the only way you humans make any sense to me.

At the risk of proving your point awareness... I don't buy the "own group preference" stuff unless it's a group that already knows each other, or has other similarities... most women are naturally socially competitive. And will side with the group that seems beneficial. I.e. women will defend a potential partner to a group of friends, but they will throw a drink in their face if they see the group as "worth more"

Example 1: I met one of my owners friends for the first time last year, our conversation was joking but she was obviously testing me she told him she likes me but then the next day texted him saying she saw me somewhere talking to some guys. What she was doing was an obvious attempt to sow discordo there was no connection based on being female, it was competitive.

Example 2: hanging out with the members of a poly house 2 girls and one guy... one of the girls and the guy were present and he decided to try to gain ground 'look impressive' by putting me in a hold and telling me to beg to let go. The girl that was there had a history of abuse and she immediately went quiet and wrapped her hand around the lamp. If I needed it she would have defended me based on her history though not the common 'female' ground

Maybe I just feel left out that girls never side with me :'( ;)

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:33:58 PM

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I do ;) but that's because that's the only way you humans make any sense to me.

LOL!!!! I love your hair by the way. Wish I could get away with that color but alas.

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RE: Women Have So Much More Opportunity - 3/27/2015 2:34:31 PM

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You really have some weird fucken hobbies, you know that?

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