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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 3:38:31 PM   
LadyConstanze


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I have a small frame, small waist and large breasts. I hide them for the most part, but it's sad that I may have to pass over a gorgeous cocktail dress because I try it on and the cleavage is such that I know men would be leering. How is that fair?

I have a large frame, beer belly, and a huge cock with well hung symmetric balls (tantamount to the size and symmetry of your "large breasts").

I hide them for the most part, but it's sad that I may have to pass over a gorgeous black vinyl g-string because I try it on and the cock-cleavage is such that I know women would be leering.

How is that any less fair that I can't promote my sexual characteristics (and yes, breasts are sexual characteristics) any more than you can?

Point is, my cock and your tits are sexual characteristics.
We cover them, for the most part, in our society.

If either one of us decides NOT to cover them, then people will be leering.



You must be walking like John Wayne...

I always thought breast are just breasts, they grow on us like some guys have hair on their chest, it's just different to our chests, I don't find hairy or smooth chests a sexual characteristic, they're just men's chests.

Your cock would be the equivalent of our clit, we don't walk around flashing it about, usually the girls who do get filmed and paid.

Seriously, I don't get the whole fascination some guys have with breasts, it seems that one half of the population has them, actually more than one half if you look at all the guys with man-boobs, it's a little bit like the fact that most women tend to be shorter than guys, have smaller hands and feet and slightly wider hips.

As for cock cleavage in black vinyl g-strings, I hope you don't wear them to cocktail parties since you equate them with cocktail dresses, unless you move in drastically different circles, I don't think it's the proper attire... You're not really up on fashion or female fashion, but most cocktail dresses tend to have cleavage, it's pretty difficult to find one that doesn't, depending on the mammary glands you got genetically (or in some cases purchased) you will show more or less boobage, you guys get away with suits that get you through most social events, for women there are different dress codes and wearing a baggy t-shirt over a cocktail dress is generally considered a fashion faux pas.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 4:10:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa
Instead I get to worry about:

Will I get mugged or attacked if I fall asleep here?

Is that girl batshit crazy that will make my life hell? Call the police on me? Cost me my job? Get me thrown in jail?

Why do you think I don't have these same concerns? I'm going to promise you that I've done it and got the t-shirt.

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Is she lying about being on the pill? Am I going to end up a wage slave for the next 18 years?

Oh please. Wrap your shit and you won't have to worry about it. Hell, I'll send you condoms.

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Is there someone that is going to come after me? Say a husband or boyfriend she 'neglected' to mention?

Shit. You'd be lucky if someone had that much character. I've dealt with that. My stalker's wife couldn't give a shit less.

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As far as getting 'paid less for having ovaries'. When experience and career choices are taken into account, the discrepancy between male and female salaries is almost nil. (2%-5%, which is within the typical margin of error and may represent a risk premium on the part of the employer).

Most people wouldn't know it, but I've held jobs that some men can't do. I probably came home covered in grease and grime more often than you did. My hands have been dirty... Plenty.


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Women have to take some responsibility for their behavior and safety. The horror. Tell you what, women can stop worrying about politely rejecting people when they start being assertive in pursuing relationships en masse. The price for not being the pursuer is that you have to deal with being pursued. It can't be both ways.

Ummm, you're kind of a dick, aren't you? Your the guy who blames the woman who got raped based on what she was wearing. You're that guy and you sicken me.






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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 4:26:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa

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Oh my heart bleeds for you, and apparently you can't wear a condom, which would solve most of those problems, or simply not fuck around. Why should she run the risks of having hormones in her system just because you want to dip your wick? Put something over it, it's really THAT simple.

If you worry about getting mugged or beaten up, well, don't fall asleep in the gutter.

Husband/boyfriend - yeah they are so going to find you in a hotel room....



Oh my heart bleeds for you, you can't get drunk around random people. You can't be on the pill or use a diaphragm of some kind.

If you worry about getting raped, well, don't go hanging out in the ghetto after dark.

If they are already suspicious, a significant other might find a hotel room.


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As far as getting 'paid less for having ovaries'. When experience and career choices are taken into account, the discrepancy between male and female salaries is almost nil. (2%-5%, which is within the typical margin of error and may represent a risk premium on the part of the employer).


Colour of the sky on your planet? http://www.jstor.org/stable/146021?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


That abstract makes no mention of controlling for experience, only generally controlling for occupation. Unless you work for a university or are currently a student, it seems unlikely that you have read this to verify the contents and I'm not shelling out $20 to review a random study. Try something ungated. Plus this research is almost 30 years old. Now I am the first to say that just because research is old doesn't make it invalid, but it is clear and common knowledge that the job market has changed significantly since the 1980s.


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You have heard about that magical invention, they are called CONDOMS and they let a guy take an ACTIVE part in birth control, let me tell you how it works, you purchase condoms, you put them over your dick, that's the whole magic, if you can't do that, maybe you shouldn't fuck!


Haven't you heard of this magical invention called water? If you can't hold your liquor, maybe you shouldn't go drinking around strange people! How is you having to take reasonable precautions is too onerous, but me having to take them is fine? That is no less than bigoted behavior placing unilateral expectations.


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Again, what's the colour of the sky on your planet? You mean because your knuckled drag on the floor we are all stuck swinging from tree to tree?


Do you have a specific claim you wish to dispute the validity of? Or just fling ad hominems?

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You mean you think you should be allowed to behave like a primate and women should put up with it. matey, wake up, smell the coffee. No what I was proposing is that if you think it might make somebody uncomfy, don't do it, it's called respect and living in a society, of course since you seem to be living in cave you might not get the principle.


Amazing, that isn't what I said at all. My point is that your standard creates problems if applied and is not based on a reasonable understanding of human behavior. I cannot control how I make other people subjectively feel. I can control what I objectively do. Your refusing to have sex with me is making me uncomfortable, so drop your pants.

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If you take into consideration more than the use of direct physical force, the numbers are fairly close. There is some disparity, but it isn't dramatic. If you don't allow for that, then you have to throw away all the date rape statistics and rape then becomes quite rare.


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Wow, just let's ignore all facts, you know like that over 90% of all rape victims are women, the numbers are close to the same, but let us ignore facts and evidence so we take the word of the internet dude who has a problem with women and can't figure out how to use a condom... Yeah that makes sense


And you are wrong. See, you don't want facts, you just want to confirm your bias. You made a claim you felt was safe, but were wrong. http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf pages 18 & 19.

12 month prevalence rounded to the nearest 100K:

All forms of sexual violence: women 7.9 million. Men 6 million.

Forced Sex: Women 1.3 million, Men 1.3 million.

Seems pretty darn close to me.

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Really? Been there? You may want to talk to the police about it, you call up and you tell them you've been rape as a guy, they are there like a flash and drive you to the doctor ASAP. Or did it happen to you and your experience was different? Or are you just talking out of your arse again?


Have you been there? Have you seen a guy attempt to report a rape? Or are you talking out of your arse?


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Translation is, I'm a big muscular guy who gets offers, but because I'm not a woman I do not worry about rape...

We got a lot of gay friends, oddly enough gay men don't tend to turn into animals and rape other guys, how come they can control themselves but straight dudes often can't?


Strawman. You aren't getting randomly raped by men turning into animals nor is that related to what I was referencing. You are being intellectually dishonest. You would be jumping down my throat if I tried something like that, shame on you.


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Btw have you seen a doctor about your pathological fear of wearing a condom?

Should I call you awarness or respectmen?


I must be one hell of a dedicated sock then. Profile has been here for 5+ years and is fleshed out. Do you have any rational argument to make or are you just a font of ad hominem?





Are you really such a clueless wankbunny as you make out?

You think falling asleep on a sofa after a night out is the same as getting drunk around random people and of course in your world rape only happens in the ghetto and women should always be on birth control to avoid getting pregnant if a stranger rapes them. Lay of the drugs dude!

If you worry about the husband or boyfriend, don't fuck the girl, simple, unless you're the guy who can only get laid by a random stranger because no woman will do it twice with you.

The career market has changed significantly since the 80's however there is still a massive discrepancy in income between men and women.

Try Forbes and a statistic from 2013, where women usually earn 77 cents to the dollar

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2013/09/19/the-geography-of-the-gender-pay-gap-womens-earnings-by-state/

So you argue everything is the woman's fault, just you don't want to use a condom? As I said you must have a death wish because there are also STDS out there and anybody with an IQ above room temperature would try to prevent them, especially if he picks up random women for random sex, that should worry you a hell lot more than the irate bf or husband.
Apart from the fact that if you don't want to become a father, you can do something yourself, you know, man up, take responsibility and use that condom (and yes, I do think they make them in XS)

As for the whole BS argument that men are just as likely to get raped (you really are a few fries short of a happy meal)

How many women have been raped?

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape). 17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape. 9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.

About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male. 2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.

You can check the statistics with www.rainn.org

The statistics you quoted don't come from rape victims, they come from random phone calls placed by the institute, oddly enough their numbers seem to be significantly different than all the other statistics, isn't that strange?

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he National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey
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2010 Summary Report
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for monitoring and responding
to sexual violence, stalking, and
intimate partner violence (CDC,
2000); and a pilot methods study
that was conducted in 2007. The
pilot study was designed to help
address information gaps and
inform the development of a
national intimate partner, sexual
violence, and stalking surveil
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lance system. In 2007, the CDC
also convened an expert panel to
discuss findings from the 2007 pilot
study and to make recommenda
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tions on the design of the NISVS
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Methods
The National Intimate Partner and
Sexual Violence Survey is a national
random digit dial (RDD) telephone
survey of the non-institutionalized
English and/or Spanish-speaking
U.S. population aged 18 or older.
NISVS uses a dual-frame sampling
strategy that includes both
landline and cell phones. The
survey was conducted in 50 states
and the District of Columbia and
was administered from January
22, 2010 through December 31,
2010. In 2010, a total of 18,049
interviews were conducted (9,970
women and 8,079 men) in the U.S.
general population. This includes
16,507 completed and 1,542
partially completed interviews. A
total of 9,086 females and 7,421
males completed the survey.
Approximately 45.2% of inter
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views were conducted by landline
telephone and 54.8% of interviews
were conducted using a respon
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dent’s cell phone


Obviously you are also aware of the fact that male rape is something feminism takes quite seriously and due to the redefinition of rape (and effort of feminism) men can now report rape...

Here are some more facts from the Rape Crisis Center, obviously you won't like them

http://www.rccmsc.org/resources/get-the-facts.aspx

Here are some more from the National Violence Resource Center

http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

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One in five women and one in 71 men will be raped
at some point in their lives


As for your profile, I have seen it, it actually breaks up, it's not even fleshed out, it screams "I am an insecure dude who wants control and I hope you think I'm really some catch because I mention that I'm friends with important people and they value privacy..." Like you share your CM profile with them? And you crave control, well then learn some control first, nobody is going to hand it over to a dude who has no idea about STDs and condoms, women don't want to fuck a guy who's very likely to give them a disease or doesn't want to take an active part in birth control.

As for your other argument that the guy still has to work, yeah I do consider getting degrees as work, I wouldn't want somebody who's a couch potato and does nothing all day long, and nor would he, but in case he would decide to give up his well paying job tomorrow because he doesn't like it anymore, I would support him and I wouldn't care how much he earns, I just wouldn't put up with somebody who does nothing all day long, but again, he feels the same way. He wouldn't be happy with a lazy partner and nor would I, but when we met, he had just gone back to university to get a few more specialized degrees, he had no assets, I was still dating him, because I tend to date people and not wallets, I absolutely had no issue to pick up the tab when we went out. I just couldn't live with a person who's whole focus on life is watching daytime TV, I expect a bit of intellectual stimulation out of a relationship as well.
And for the record, in the past few years there have been times where I was working in the US for 3 to 6 months stretches, sometimes he took a few weeks or months off and stayed at home to look after the dogs and cats full time (which I considered work), sometimes he decided the contract he was offered was too lucrative and we got a dog walker in. I can assure you that if I would just sit on the sofa and not do anything, he'd also kick my arse to the curb.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 4:41:26 PM   
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Oh please. Wrap your shit and you won't have to worry about it. Hell, I'll send you condoms.




Can I chip in? It makes more sense than having to use tons of chlorine in the gene pool

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 4:45:53 PM   
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Oh my heart bleeds for you, you can't get drunk around random people. You can't be on the pill or use a diaphragm of some kind.

If you worry about getting raped, well, don't go hanging out in the ghetto after dark.

If they are already suspicious, a significant other might find a hotel room.




Please explain to me how, exactly, either the pill or the diaphragm protect against any STDs.
Also, the diaphragm requires the woman to use a contraceptive jelly with it. Many people are allergic to nonoxynol-9.

There is a female condom available, but it is considered to be 10% less effective than male condoms and it does not convey the skin-skin feeling that people who dislike condoms desire.

As for other methods that are not condoms: many women can not tolerate hormonal methods of birth control. The sponge also contains nonoxynol-9.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 4:59:45 PM   
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I believe birth control is something that both parties should discuss, I've never been into random sex with strangers but would worry much more about the various STDs out there than unwanted pregnancies, a guy who refuses to wear a condom for whatever reason, I think you have to be batshit crazy to even entertain the thought of having sex with him, if I was a guy I'd think the same way about a woman, especially if it is a random hook up, apart from HIV there are a hell lot of other STDs out there. Anybody who doesn't value their health enough to care about that, they most likely won't have used protection with the previous partners, so all of a sudden you're taking on the sexual history of not just one person, but all their previous partners, and the partners of those partners... Russian roulette anybody or just the Darwin Awards?

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 5:16:46 PM   
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<fast reply>

I forgot something.

Courage is not the lack of fear. It's what you do in spite of it.




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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 5:22:34 PM   
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$5 says carpecoma is a crumpets sock.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 5:26:03 PM   
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nah we just have a lot of "uncovered" dicks on here

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 5:29:43 PM   
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nah we just have a lot of "uncovered" dicks on here


True enough. They all look alike to me.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 5:50:43 PM   
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@ CarpeComa

I dont see men as workhorses. If they have their own thing going - what do I care? I mean if they want to travel with me or go out and do things that cost money - then sure, they probably should have their own money as they are an adult and I am not their parent with the responsibility to pay for their upbringing.


But there is an unbalanced expectation there. You probably don't think it is odd for a man to pay for you on a regular basis, but you would likely be put out if asked to pay for him on a regular basis. If you had children, or were thinking about having children, it is an almost certainty that financial resources would move to very high on your priority list. The demand for provision can be couched in many different ways, but it doesn't change what it is at the core. There are of course some exceptions (as with any generalization), but the ability to provision is generally on the list of requirements that women have of men. Men tend to either not have that requirement or it is much lower on the list.

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As for the nature thing - and bringing the next generation into the world: that is hardly the only focus on what humans have evolved into. If that were all that were involved our species wouldn't have. There obviously was a drive that pushed our species further than that, and if you are actually trying to say that women through history were in charge of most civilized development - that is up until recently (in some cultures,) you would be sadly mistaken. And hell, we are still fighting tooth and nail for that.



I am saying that the next generation is all nature cares about. Everything people do is either to serve that purpose or is random noise. It is a hard, almost nihilistic, truth. As long as there is death and finite resources, it has to be that way as no other option will out compete it. We are not somehow immune to the same forces that shape everything else in the world.

I didn't say women were in charge of civilized development, just that they are the gatekeepers to the next generation, at least for most locations during most of recorded history. It is possible for it to be reversed, but as it is a mating strategy that isn't the Nash equilibrium it can only be maintained through either a rather extreme level of effort, unusual circumstances, and results in a dead end society. Because they are the gatekeepers, they get (as a group) to decide which men breed, which in turn determines the makeup of the next generation. That which gets rewarded will become more plentiful. There are practical limits of course, but women certainly hold the stronger hand in that regard. If women as a group decided that x trait was totally unacceptable, it would be all but extinct in a few generations.

While women set the goal, but they don't generally set the path to the goal, which is an important distinction when talking about guiding behavior. For example, I could say that the goal is to have a million dollars. Now there are a lot of ways to achieve that. A bunch of people could pool their money together and pass it around, making each person a millionaire for a short time. Someone could steal the money. Someone could counterfeit the money. Someone could invent and sell something for the money. All of these would achieve the stated goal. Of course, it isn't that there some monolithic 'women' setting all the goals either. Each of them get to set their own. However, as reproduction is largely voluntary and women posses lower capacity to produce children then men do, women have the upper hand in setting the requirements. Intrasexual competition keeps women from all having the same level/kind of requirements, but if you want to point to the group that has the most power to define the shape society takes, it isn't men. Women hold the only carrot that matters over the long term.

I would be interested in any defensible argument that can support a fundamentally different conclusion that doesn't require accepting the conceit that women are essentially powerless over their own destiny. Because if we accept that conceit, we might as well just give up this whole 'rights for women' thing as women won't be able to keep it.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 6:02:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa
Instead I get to worry about:

Will I get mugged or attacked if I fall asleep here?

Is that girl batshit crazy that will make my life hell? Call the police on me? Cost me my job? Get me thrown in jail?

Why do you think I don't have these same concerns? I'm going to promise you that I've done it and got the t-shirt.

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Is she lying about being on the pill? Am I going to end up a wage slave for the next 18 years?

Oh please. Wrap your shit and you won't have to worry about it. Hell, I'll send you condoms.

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Is there someone that is going to come after me? Say a husband or boyfriend she 'neglected' to mention?

Shit. You'd be lucky if someone had that much character. I've dealt with that. My stalker's wife couldn't give a shit less.


The excuses are bullshit, which was my point. If you had read what I had responded to you would see that this is a simple rephrasing of the excuses Constanze threw at me. Hell, what I was responding to was even in the message you replied to. This is just laziness on your part.

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As far as getting 'paid less for having ovaries'. When experience and career choices are taken into account, the discrepancy between male and female salaries is almost nil. (2%-5%, which is within the typical margin of error and may represent a risk premium on the part of the employer).

Most people wouldn't know it, but I've held jobs that some men can't do. I probably came home covered in grease and grime more often than you did. My hands have been dirty... Plenty.


That's fine, but has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.


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Women have to take some responsibility for their behavior and safety. The horror. Tell you what, women can stop worrying about politely rejecting people when they start being assertive in pursuing relationships en masse. The price for not being the pursuer is that you have to deal with being pursued. It can't be both ways.

Ummm, you're kind of a dick, aren't you? Your the guy who blames the woman who got raped based on what she was wearing. You're that guy and you sicken me.



Says the person who can't be bothered to read the provided context before putting her two cents in. I once again go back to what I have challenged most of you with: Can you put forth a real argument based on what I have actually said (not the conclusions you have jumped to) or can you only spit insults and shaming attempts?


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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 6:27:13 PM   
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Dude, I think it's pretty fair to say you are a creep, and before I put you on ignore, thanks for the laugh your profile provided me with, especially your "testimonials", I can't believe that such a catch as you is still single (hey, I tried to keep a straight face when I typed that)

You're a bit verbose, but that doesn't camouflage the fact that you're pretty clueless. And btw you haven't challenged anybody, you just showed that you're a complete dick.

Please, in case you ever get laid, use a condom, for the sake of humanity! Show some mercy for the gene pool, even your shallow end! I couldn't care less if you catch an STD because it's not very likely that you get the chance to pass it on (well, I guess you could always pretend you're mute, which would increase your chances).

Nobody needs to shame you, you've done that yourself better than anybody else could, but useless noise when people are trying to have a conversation ceases to be amusing.

You cling on to the stupid idea that every woman is looking for a provider and see men as workhorses, if they see you as that, then possibly because you don't have much else to offer, apart from some weird fantasies online and uhhhhh yeah "testimonials"

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 6:40:40 PM   
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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 6:48:49 PM   
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i thought testi moanials was just ball aching about how being a wage slave for 18 years is the most terrible thing to contemplate in their lives....

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 7:36:17 PM   
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Christ, the whining in this thread is pathetic.

"Waaahhhh... women make less than men for the same work" - no they don't, this has been comprehensively debunked. Anyone whining about the gender pay gap is either mathematically illiterate or just plain stupid.

"Waahhhh... one in five women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime" - no, it's more like 1 in 40. This is another comprehensive piece of bullshit that goes back several decades and has ZERO statistical basis. It was invented by another nutso feminist and has been repeated ad infinitum despite never being validated ONCE.

"Waaaahhh... life isn't fair because I can't wander around naked and drunk without being assaulted" - Most adults understand that ultimately we're responsible for ourselves. Expecting society to take care of you when you're exhibiting poor judgment is the essential mindset of the girl-child. Most crime - from theft to assault - occurs because of opportunity. Consequently adults realise they have to lock up their doors, be mindful of their financial transactions and not put themselves in dangerous situations.

What I find ironic is that it's the same damaged women who argue that women are equal to men.... except for these specific examples where they need special consideration and help. Irony much?

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 7:43:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Are you really such a clueless wankbunny as you make out?


Just another insult.

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You think falling asleep on a sofa after a night out is the same as getting drunk around random people and of course in your world rape only happens in the ghetto and women should always be on birth control to avoid getting pregnant if a stranger rapes them. Lay of the drugs dude!


Are you only capable of black and white thinking? Do you not understand what an analogy is? You continue to be intellectually dishonest. Where did I draw that comparison that asleep on a sofa is the same as getting drunk around random people? There is a constant factor in that both actions increases your vulnerability to being taken advantage of. When did I make any of the statements you claim in this paragraph? The only thing that came close is when I took your own excuses and turned them around, which isn't a statement, but an analogy to point out your double standard.

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If you worry about the husband or boyfriend, don't fuck the girl, simple, unless you're the guy who can only get laid by a random stranger because no woman will do it twice with you.


Which goes back to: if you are worried about being taken advantage of, avoid places/situations that make it easy. Why can you accept that for me but not for you?

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The career market has changed significantly since the 80's however there is still a massive discrepancy in income between men and women.

Try Forbes and a statistic from 2013, where women usually earn 77 cents to the dollar

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2013/09/19/the-geography-of-the-gender-pay-gap-womens-earnings-by-state/


That study is not controlled for experience/career choices. Basically that study just compares the net earnings of men to the net earnings of women. Don't you think that women might have different motivations in how they pursue work compared to men? You do realize that a lot of women with children choose to work jobs that either aren't full time or have more than normal flexibility? That these choices rightfully impact the amount of money they make vs people in other types of jobs? No, of course not. It is all the bad evil sexism. However, this is subject is purely ancillary and is just a distraction to the main subject.

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So you argue everything is the woman's fault, just you don't want to use a condom? As I said you must have a death wish because there are also STDS out there and anybody with an IQ above room temperature would try to prevent them, especially if he picks up random women for random sex, that should worry you a hell lot more than the irate bf or husband.


I didn't say that. Stop putting words in my mouth. STDs are a subject change and scarcely relevant to the topic at hand. Stay on point.

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Apart from the fact that if you don't want to become a father, you can do something yourself, you know, man up, take responsibility and use that condom (and yes, I do think they make them in XS)



More shaming attempts. How is that different than blaming the victim? How is that any different from saying to a woman, well you shouldn't have gone down that alley after dark if you didn't want to get raped? Oh, that's right, because I'm the man. Do you see your double standard yet? Now I do say: 'if you want to avoid getting raped, you should avoid dark alleys', but that isn't the same as 'it is your fault that someone in that dark alley raped you'.

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As for the whole BS argument that men are just as likely to get raped (you really are a few fries short of a happy meal)

How many women have been raped?

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape). 17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape. 9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.

About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male. 2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.

You can check the statistics with www.rainn.org


First, how about a link to the actual study? I did it for you. Most 1 in X numbers trace to a study done by Mary Koss (or studies that repeat the methodology) which is acknowledged by those who are both in the know and are honest as having a lot of problems.

Side note: RIANN has also requested to stop using the term "rape culture" as they say that it isn't productive. https://rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape

From the link: “While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime,”

Just an FYI.

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The statistics you quoted don't come from rape victims, they come from random phone calls placed by the institute, oddly enough their numbers seem to be significantly different than all the other statistics, isn't that strange?


It is this newfangled thing called a survey and randomness is generally a strength, not a weakness in statistical measuring methods. It can help eliminate some biases in the results, but may cause others. Plus, aren't people always complaining that the police statistics are bad because of the amount of unreported rapes? If you wanted to get around that, pretty much the only way is to do a survey.

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Obviously you are also aware of the fact that male rape is something feminism takes quite seriously and due to the redefinition of rape (and effort of feminism) men can now report rape...


Feminism as a whole doesn't really take male rape seriously for the same reason you don't. If they did, they would be protesting outside of prisons. Did you know that it is in reference to prisons that the term 'rape culture' was originally coined? Behavior matters. Words don't. As feminists engage in almost no behavior to combat male rape, it is clear they don't particularly care about it. They have almost no motivation to do so as it is 'protect the women' that brings in the dollars, not 'protect the men'. However, this is a side subject and a distraction from the main point. Stay on topic.

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Here are some more facts from the Rape Crisis Center, obviously you won't like them

http://www.rccmsc.org/resources/get-the-facts.aspx

Here are some more from the National Violence Resource Center

http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

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One in five women and one in 71 men will be raped
at some point in their lives


How do they define rape and how are they collecting the statistics? Most analyses to date have fallen into traps that essentially would only ever capture female victims. For example, some will only define rape as requiring penetration, which essentially makes it a crime that can only be perpetrated by men as women lack the equipment. Others may only collect from police reports which requires someone file a report to the police, and introduces other problems. Others fall into the trap that different genders may trend towards different subjective interpretations of what constitutes rape.

Edited to add: The last source in that list quotes the same source as my numbers. So why is my source not reliable enough for you, but reliable enough for them?

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As for your profile, I have seen it, it actually breaks up


If it breaks up, then it is due to html changes since I first wrote it. It looks fine in mine, except for too many line breaks (which is due to html changes). Yes, you have to click on the view full profile to read the whole thing. Perhaps you need to update your browser?

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, it's not even fleshed out


Then you have some strange definitions of fleshed out.

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, it screams "I am an insecure dude who wants control and I hope you think I'm really some catch because I mention that I'm friends with important people and they value privacy..." Like you share your CM profile with them? And you crave control, well then learn some control first, nobody is going to hand it over to a dude who has no idea about STDs and condoms, women don't want to fuck a guy who's very likely to give them a disease or doesn't want to take an active part in birth control.


Still more jumping to conclusions and shaming attempts. This is just silliness and still not relevant to the main point.

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As for your other argument that the guy still has to work, yeah I do consider getting degrees as work, I wouldn't want somebody who's a couch potato and does nothing all day long, and nor would he, but in case he would decide to give up his well paying job tomorrow because he doesn't like it anymore, I would support him and I wouldn't care how much he earns, I just wouldn't put up with somebody who does nothing all day long, but again, he feels the same way. He wouldn't be happy with a lazy partner and nor would I, but when we met, he had just gone back to university to get a few more specialized degrees, he had no assets, I was still dating him, because I tend to date people and not wallets, I absolutely had no issue to pick up the tab when we went out. I just couldn't live with a person who's whole focus on life is watching daytime TV, I expect a bit of intellectual stimulation out of a relationship as well.


Of course you can't admit otherwise as that would be conceding the point. As you have repeatedly engaged in intellectually dishonest tactics with me before, I see no reason to believe you aren't now. I will point out that the most common reason given for filing divorce is financial difficulties and women file for 70% of the divorces. Ask him if he would be comfortable if he made significantly less than you and did not have any possibility of doing better in the future. The truth is out there, if you want it. But, this is also another side subject and should be trimmed to keep the discussion focused.

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And for the record, in the past few years there have been times where I was working in the US for 3 to 6 months stretches, sometimes he took a few weeks or months off and stayed at home to look after the dogs and cats full time (which I considered work), sometimes he decided the contract he was offered was too lucrative and we got a dog walker in. I can assure you that if I would just sit on the sofa and not do anything, he'd also kick my arse to the curb.


There is a difference between 'sitting on the couch and doing nothing' and working for money. It would a relatively rare decision if he decided to boot you simply because you weren't working a regular job.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 8:10:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Dude, I think it's pretty fair to say you are a creep, and before I put you on ignore, thanks for the laugh your profile provided me with, especially your "testimonials", I can't believe that such a catch as you is still single (hey, I tried to keep a straight face when I typed that)

You're a bit verbose, but that doesn't camouflage the fact that you're pretty clueless. And btw you haven't challenged anybody, you just showed that you're a complete dick.

Please, in case you ever get laid, use a condom, for the sake of humanity! Show some mercy for the gene pool, even your shallow end! I couldn't care less if you catch an STD because it's not very likely that you get the chance to pass it on (well, I guess you could always pretend you're mute, which would increase your chances).

Nobody needs to shame you, you've done that yourself better than anybody else could, but useless noise when people are trying to have a conversation ceases to be amusing.

You cling on to the stupid idea that every woman is looking for a provider and see men as workhorses, if they see you as that, then possibly because you don't have much else to offer, apart from some weird fantasies online and uhhhhh yeah "testimonials"


Still nothing but insults and strawmen. You have yet to offer a single point that has withstood critical scrutiny. Of course you try to spin the loss by running away and claiming victory.


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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 8:25:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa




Oh my heart bleeds for you, you can't get drunk around random people. You can't be on the pill or use a diaphragm of some kind.

If you worry about getting raped, well, don't go hanging out in the ghetto after dark.

If they are already suspicious, a significant other might find a hotel room.




Please explain to me how, exactly, either the pill or the diaphragm protect against any STDs.
Also, the diaphragm requires the woman to use a contraceptive jelly with it. Many people are allergic to nonoxynol-9.

There is a female condom available, but it is considered to be 10% less effective than male condoms and it does not convey the skin-skin feeling that people who dislike condoms desire.

As for other methods that are not condoms: many women can not tolerate hormonal methods of birth control. The sponge also contains nonoxynol-9.



Please review the context that that statement was made in. It was an analogy to draw attention to the double standard of her excuses.

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RE: Don't be a creeper - 11/28/2015 9:08:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa




Oh my heart bleeds for you, you can't get drunk around random people. You can't be on the pill or use a diaphragm of some kind.

If you worry about getting raped, well, don't go hanging out in the ghetto after dark.

If they are already suspicious, a significant other might find a hotel room.




Please explain to me how, exactly, either the pill or the diaphragm protect against any STDs.
Also, the diaphragm requires the woman to use a contraceptive jelly with it. Many people are allergic to nonoxynol-9.

There is a female condom available, but it is considered to be 10% less effective than male condoms and it does not convey the skin-skin feeling that people who dislike condoms desire.

As for other methods that are not condoms: many women can not tolerate hormonal methods of birth control. The sponge also contains nonoxynol-9.



Please review the context that that statement was made in. It was an analogy to draw attention to the double standard of her excuses.


before I posted, I did review the context.
I accept your acknowledgement that the analogy you created doesn't really work.




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