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In the context of my country. We ban cars that we feel are too dangerous. So many of those high powered cars in the US are not allowed on the road here.

We ban medicine or make it very difficult to get hold of without strict criteria and prescription from beyond just general practitioners. They may need specialists. Many off the shelves medicine in the US are not legal here off the shelves too.

Technically, we do apply everything fairly. Not attacking only guns.

The US bans cars that do not meet standards, or are too powerful for the American idiots with more money than brains.

Also you register cars, and require a license to own one.
It's strange how all of the second amendment fundamentalists who've used the daesh automotive attacks elsewhere to "prove" that gun control doesn't prevent deaths are cool with cars and trucks being regulated like that, but think it's appalling that attempts are made to do the same with firearms.

You will find that the majority of gun owners, in many states, already have to register firearms in some form.

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In the context of my country. We ban cars that we feel are too dangerous. So many of those high powered cars in the US are not allowed on the road here.

We ban medicine or make it very difficult to get hold of without strict criteria and prescription from beyond just general practitioners. They may need specialists. Many off the shelves medicine in the US are not legal here off the shelves too.

Technically, we do apply everything fairly. Not attacking only guns.

The US bans cars that do not meet standards, or are too powerful for the American idiots with more money than brains.

Also you register cars, and require a license to own one.
It's strange how all of the second amendment fundamentalists who've used the daesh automotive attacks elsewhere to "prove" that gun control doesn't prevent deaths are cool with cars and trucks being regulated like that, but think it's appalling that attempts are made to do the same with firearms.

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Nnanji you got the rise correct, buy you forgot to figure for wind and the ballistic spin of the bullet, which will cause the bullet to actually begin to travel in a horizontal arc as well at long distances.

If you would like, I can find the tables for you and post the link.

Its a real bitch of a math problem, or more accurately, a physics problem, which is why some years ago, the US military started issuing specialized calculators for spotters in sniper teams.

here is the online version.

and you can get an app for a smart phone, tablet or laptop that does it all.

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though the quantitative part of it was not my strong suit, I taught biomechanics, so I have some sense of the difficulty involved in shooting accurately from ever increasing distances but the point of my replies to jv wasn't to say it was an easy peasy thing, rather just to say that the photograph of the scene doesn't capture all the possibilities.

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In the context of my country. We ban cars that we feel are too dangerous. So many of those high powered cars in the US are not allowed on the road here.

We ban medicine or make it very difficult to get hold of without strict criteria and prescription from beyond just general practitioners. They may need specialists. Many off the shelves medicine in the US are not legal here off the shelves too.

Technically, we do apply everything fairly. Not attacking only guns.

The US bans cars that do not meet standards, or are too powerful for the American idiots with more money than brains.

Also you register cars, and require a license to own one.
It's strange how all of the second amendment fundamentalists who've used the daesh automotive attacks elsewhere to "prove" that gun control doesn't prevent deaths are cool with cars and trucks being regulated like that, but think it's appalling that attempts are made to do the same with firearms.

I'm not sure where you are that you need a license to own a car. Here you can own a hundred cars, even without a license. You only need a license if you intend to drive one on public streets.

As far as the difference in registering cars vs. guns . . . The last time there was a huge outcry of people, both private and in the government, who wanted to ban all cars was . . . NEVER. People aren't concerned about the eventual possibility of the government going door to door confiscating everyone's cars. HOWEVER, there are some people, both private and in the government, that have talked, and often even pushed, for all guns to be banned and confiscated. The registration of firearms would facilitate the gathering of firearms and the enforcement of such laws, and would take the guns from . . . all the people? NO . . . most criminals and gang bangers that have firearms don't have them registered, so they would still have theirs. And it would force many otherwise honest people to become criminals by not turning in their own unregistered firearms if they don't agree with the law.

I have three firearms. A .22 rifle, a 12 gauge pump shotgun, and a .357 revolver. None are registered, and it is not required for them to be registered in my state. I plan on keeping my firearms, both for protection, and for the eventual (though unlikely) possibility of needing them for hunting in a SHTF situation. Therefore they will remain unregistered.

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

That's funny as hell and you'd have to understand our culture to get it. Our nanny state just needs to be parents for all of us who are too dumb to raise kids without choking them to death. This is the sort of thing that liberals teamed up with lawyers come up with to keep us all safe. (Okay, there were probably a few conservatives involved as well) The article makes a valid point, although they probably don't know it. You, as an adult, can go and buy a gun but wow be on you if you let a kid get a hold of it. Where as with the kinder surprise the government doesn't place the onus on the parent to watch the kid, it simply takes all choice away from the parent. The law should place an onus on parents (adults) just like with guns. Getting rid of silly regulations like this is actually one of the things Trump campaigned on and why he's president now. So, in my opinion, stuff like this should be printed and distributed all over the US just to ridicule and show idiots what we have allowed the government to become.

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In the context of my country. We ban cars that we feel are too dangerous. So many of those high powered cars in the US are not allowed on the road here.

We ban medicine or make it very difficult to get hold of without strict criteria and prescription from beyond just general practitioners. They may need specialists. Many off the shelves medicine in the US are not legal here off the shelves too.

Technically, we do apply everything fairly. Not attacking only guns.

The US bans cars that do not meet standards, or are too powerful for the American idiots with more money than brains.

Also you register cars, and require a license to own one.
It's strange how all of the second amendment fundamentalists who've used the daesh automotive attacks elsewhere to "prove" that gun control doesn't prevent deaths are cool with cars and trucks being regulated like that, but think it's appalling that attempts are made to do the same with firearms.

I'm not sure where you are that you need a license to own a car. Here you can own a hundred cars, even without a license. You only need a license if you intend to drive one on public streets.

As far as the difference in registering cars vs. guns . . . The last time there was a huge outcry of people, both private and in the government, who wanted to ban all cars was . . . NEVER. People aren't concerned about the eventual possibility of the government going door to door confiscating everyone's cars. HOWEVER, there are some people, both private and in the government, that have talked, and often even pushed, for all guns to be banned and confiscated. The registration of firearms would facilitate the gathering of firearms and the enforcement of such laws, and would take the guns from . . . all the people? NO . . . most criminals and gang bangers that have firearms don't have them registered, so they would still have theirs. And it would force many otherwise honest people to become criminals by not turning in their own unregistered firearms if they don't agree with the law.

I have three firearms. A .22 rifle, a 12 gauge pump shotgun, and a .357 revolver. None are registered, and it is not required for them to be registered in my state. I plan on keeping my firearms, both for protection, and for the eventual (though unlikely) possibility of needing them for hunting in a SHTF situation. Therefore they will remain unregistered.

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

That's funny as hell and you'd have to understand our culture to get it. Our nanny state just needs to be parents for all of us who are too dumb to raise kids without choking them to death. This is the sort of thing that liberals teamed up with lawyers come up with to keep us all safe. (Okay, there were probably a few conservatives involved as well) The article makes a valid point, although they probably don't know it. You, as an adult, can go and buy a gun but wow be on you if you let a kid get a hold of it. Where as with the kinder surprise the government doesn't place the onus on the parent to watch the kid, it simply takes all choice away from the parent. The law should place an onus on parents (adults) just like with guns. Getting rid of silly regulations like this is actually one of the things Trump campaigned on and why he's president now. So, in my opinion, stuff like this should be printed and distributed all over the US just to ridicule and show idiots what we have allowed the government to become.

watch this

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

That's funny as hell and you'd have to understand our culture to get it. Our nanny state just needs to be parents for all of us who are too dumb to raise kids without choking them to death. This is the sort of thing that liberals teamed up with lawyers come up with to keep us all safe. (Okay, there were probably a few conservatives involved as well) The article makes a valid point, although they probably don't know it. You, as an adult, can go and buy a gun but wow be on you if you let a kid get a hold of it. Where as with the kinder surprise the government doesn't place the onus on the parent to watch the kid, it simply takes all choice away from the parent. The law should place an onus on parents (adults) just like with guns. Getting rid of silly regulations like this is actually one of the things Trump campaigned on and why he's president now. So, in my opinion, stuff like this should be printed and distributed all over the US just to ridicule and show idiots what we have allowed the government to become.

watch this

Saw a report on it. Gotta laugh when he agrees with us.

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

That's funny as hell and you'd have to understand our culture to get it. Our nanny state just needs to be parents for all of us who are too dumb to raise kids without choking them to death. This is the sort of thing that liberals teamed up with lawyers come up with to keep us all safe. (Okay, there were probably a few conservatives involved as well) The article makes a valid point, although they probably don't know it. You, as an adult, can go and buy a gun but wow be on you if you let a kid get a hold of it. Where as with the kinder surprise the government doesn't place the onus on the parent to watch the kid, it simply takes all choice away from the parent. The law should place an onus on parents (adults) just like with guns. Getting rid of silly regulations like this is actually one of the things Trump campaigned on and why he's president now. So, in my opinion, stuff like this should be printed and distributed all over the US just to ridicule and show idiots what we have allowed the government to become.

watch this

Saw a report on it. Gotta laugh when he agrees with us.

I dont consider myself a dem or republican simply because both sides support issues I agree with, although admittedly, the dems seem to have become the party of 'regulate the fuck out of everything.'

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Guns are safe but chocolates Kinder Surprise was considered not safe for like the longest time and officially banned! American logic! I don't feel so bad about our chewing gum ban now. Hey, we ain't the only country that banned kiddy candy!

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/americans-have-been-denied-the-joy-of-a-kinder-surprise-until-now/news-story/27190629405fb975b8dc9787ce3c6422

That's funny as hell and you'd have to understand our culture to get it. Our nanny state just needs to be parents for all of us who are too dumb to raise kids without choking them to death. This is the sort of thing that liberals teamed up with lawyers come up with to keep us all safe. (Okay, there were probably a few conservatives involved as well) The article makes a valid point, although they probably don't know it. You, as an adult, can go and buy a gun but wow be on you if you let a kid get a hold of it. Where as with the kinder surprise the government doesn't place the onus on the parent to watch the kid, it simply takes all choice away from the parent. The law should place an onus on parents (adults) just like with guns. Getting rid of silly regulations like this is actually one of the things Trump campaigned on and why he's president now. So, in my opinion, stuff like this should be printed and distributed all over the US just to ridicule and show idiots what we have allowed the government to become.

watch this

Saw a report on it. Gotta laugh when he agrees with us.

I dont consider myself a dem or republican simply because both sides support issues I agree with, although admittedly, the dems seem to have become the party of 'regulate the fuck out of everything.'

Whereas the republicans are more the party of "bail the people who claim that they don't need regulation out at the taxpayer's expense when their lack of self control sends the economy down the shitter"?