jlf1961
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One huge objection to SWAT teams, from their inception, has been that a SWAT unit is militarizing a police force. It seems predictable that a militarized unit will act like a military unit.
When is a violent home invasion justified? The statistics on hostage situations show that going in hot and firing ends up with hostages dead the majority of the time.
Set up hard points to cover all entrances and announce for the residents to come out. If they don't...
Killing all utilities and tossing in CS gas and wait for the people in the house to come out sounds more sensible to me.
Yep, cs would do the trick, toss in a few cannisters and wait....
In case you did not know, SWAT teams were formed to deal with hostage situations, and special situations that are out side the norm for day to day patrol officers.
Aside from the unit commander who makes the ultimate decision to force a breach, there is a negotiator who's job it is to find out exactly what kind of threat they are facing, and who the unit commander depends on in making his decision to force the breach.
One of the incidents that started the thinking of creating special police units that were more heavily armed than the average patrol officer was the University of Texas sniper incident, when the sniper had weapons that were longer range than any police were issued.
The most driving force in the creation of these units was the proliferation of drug trafficking among street gangs and organized crime, and the increased necessity for 'no knock warrants.'
It must also be noted that the most individuals arrested during these types of raids end up facing drug and weapons charges, because in 8 out of 10 cases, the weapons found during the search are illegal to own in the US to begin with or possessed illegally, thus eliminating the 'get rid of the private guns' argument.
It also must be pointed out that the US was not the first country to use SWAT teams.
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Dec 30 2017, 1:22 am ET
Los Angeles man arrested in ‘swatting’ call that preceded fatal police shooting in Kansas
Los Angeles police arrested a 25-year-old man in a suspected "swatting" hoax 911 call in Kansas that ended in the fatal police shooting of an unarmed man.
The LAPD took Tyler Barriss of Los Angeles into custody in that city on Friday afternoon, on a fugitive warrant stemming from the Thursday evening incident in Kansas, a spokesman for the Los Angeles Police Department said.
Police in Wichita fatally shot a man identified by family members as Andrew Finch, 28, after officers responded to a hoax 911 call, police in Kansas said.
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Why this hasnt hit the boards is beyond me - 
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