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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/22/2023 1:04:05 AM   
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Not sure of your point here.



The first time I've believed you in a long while

Ask a wild-eyed leftist "How much debt is too much?" and all you get is maniacal laughter



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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/22/2023 7:29:42 AM   
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CNN: Biden Has Lowest Approval Rating of Any President At This Point in Presidency Since Polling Began

ABC News / Washington Post poll - 58 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they want their party to nominate someone else.





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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/22/2023 8:16:43 AM   
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Why does the debt ceiling only matter to Republicans when a Democrat is in office?

All the GOP has is manufactured fear anymore. Some culture wars may be real, but I don't think any of them are as big as Republican fear-mongering suggests, or will end how conservatives would like.

The crusades in Florida are having serious repercussions to our economy. The debt ceiling crisis, even if/when averted will take a major toll on the American economy at a rather inopportune time.

But what is the doomsday scenario if the US defaults on its debt? Seniors, the disabled, and veterans would not get their checks as expected. The US military won't get paid either. As if those groups don't have enough anxiety.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/22/2023 6:58:31 PM   
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Ask a wild-eyed leftist "How much debt is too much?" and all you get is maniacal laughter


Ask a wild-eyed rightist, and you will get more of the same since Republicans have raised the deficit significantly every time they have been in office. And Republicans voted to raise the debt ceiling without question.

Love Debbie Stabenow's charts


Just the Facts: Republicans Create Huge Deficits


Clinton and Obama left the economy a lot better than they found it. Bush's and Trump left it a LOT worse.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/23/2023 6:31:02 AM   
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"I would prefer, frankly, that we put just a normal person as president..." - Elon Musk

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/23/2023 7:17:57 AM   
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"Whatabout, whatabout, whatabout..."

Let's pretend for a moment that you are sane, and that your hyper-partisan source is grounded in reality - Republicans crush economies, and "Democrats" are the REAL deficit hawks.

How does that make trillions and trillions and trillions of more debt okay because "Democrats" are the ones doing it, and Republicans are opposed

In the REAL world, Congress is granted authority in this once-great Republic, under authority of the Constitution, to control the purse strings

Clinton and Obama both had Conservatives forcing them to make better decisions, and Republican presidents almost always had leftists controlling Congress

Republicans today are trying to keep Biden's handlers from sending inflation rates to the moon, and you mock them for their efforts because "Democrats" lack reasoning abilities

They (you) are purely emotional thinkers

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/23/2023 8:58:29 PM   
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No need to wonder why everybody calls him China Joe...

Biden Admin Pulls $200 Million Grant to China-Backed EV Maker After Criticism

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/24/2023 6:02:16 AM   
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NYC Adams Asks Court to Suspect City's "Right to Shelter" Rule in Wake of Illegal Immigrant Crisis

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/24/2023 11:42:30 AM   
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That lie doesn't even make sense, Bosco. You think changing certain words in the title will somehow trigger the reaction you're howling for? Nah, unless the reaction you want is me howling in laughter at your dumb ass. Dumb. Ass. Dumbass.

The actual title of the article is: Eric Adams seeks court approval to suspend NYC’s ‘right to shelter’ rule in wake of migrant crisis

It was a court decision that made the rule in the first place. No NYC mayor before Adams has faced this level of homelessness and immigration at the same time as what the city's seeing now. Seems like the dude is being a realist. The court may suspend it, or change its original ruling a bit, so that the city's homeless population isn't totally forgotten.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/24/2023 6:36:15 PM   
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How does that make trillions and trillions and trillions of more debt okay because "Democrats" are the ones doing it, and Republicans are opposed

More debt? More debt than what?
Sure every year that we have a deficit, we have more debt the next year. Trump added $7.8 TRILLION to the national debt.

At least Biden has lowered the deficit.

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In the REAL world, Congress is granted authority in this once-great Republic, under authority of the Constitution, to control the purse strings

I sincerely doubt you know what this actually means or its true context

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Clinton and Obama both had Conservatives forcing them to make better decisions,

This is just stupid and plain wrong. Republicans rarely make any good decisions when it comes to spending. I will say, in the case of Clinton ONLY, there was a good bi-partisan effort to balance the budget.

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and Republican presidents almost always had leftists controlling Congress

Democrats never had a veto-proof majority in Congress. This is pure nonsense.

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Republicans today are trying to keep Biden's handlers from sending inflation rates to the moon, and you mock them for their efforts because "Democrats" lack reasoning abilities

You obviously have no idea what inflation is or what causes it. Why would you? All you do is listen to the latest instructions from your right wing masters.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/24/2023 7:16:05 PM   
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Sleazy China Joe, obeying his CCP sugar daddy masters

The House of Representatives failed on Wednesday to overturn a veto by President Joe Biden of a bill passed by Congress that would repeal his tariff exemptions to solar panels made with Chinese components, which was granted to further his climate agenda.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/26/2023 5:43:27 AM   
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People with minds despise "Democrats".

Biden Vetoes House Resolution Rolling Back DC's Pro-Crime Reforms

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/26/2023 9:46:49 PM   
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People with minds despise "Democrats".

Biden Vetoes House Resolution Rolling Back DC's Pro-Crime Reforms


From what I can tell, he listened to the "Progressives" in the party. I hate when he does that.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/27/2023 6:25:54 AM   
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From what I can tell, he listened to the "Progressives" in the party. I hate when he does that.


The "Democrat" party is becoming more politically radical and more beholden to it's megacorporate and Chinese Communist Party owners every day

Destroying America is a feature, not a bug

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/27/2023 6:43:35 AM   
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The "Democrat" party is becoming more politically radical


This part is "Sad But True" - to quote Metallica :)

The wokeness, the constant gender and race ideology, the misleadingly named "communities", BLM, Antifa...

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/27/2023 3:18:57 PM   
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Some of us are actually tired of some people's shit. Treyvon was killed less than an hour away from my house. Pulse was shot up less than an hour away. I don't have a problem with anything BLM marches or organizes for.

Dr King sang We Shall Overcome as he marched.
Gays & Trannies (don't call them that) set NY on fire and had a damn parade.

And every minority is still under attack. It's not us, it's you.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/27/2023 4:19:04 PM   
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Obviously, I don't mean you personally, MJ. But I think you're too lukewarm. Perhaps not an enemy, but certainly no ally I'd want. I feel the rage, but I don't know how to explain it to someone that doesn't get it yet. This is why each of us looks for our own community. Because we know when it's come down to it, there won't be nearly as many people supporting the cause.

Nobody wants to be the next Trayvon Martin. The next Matthew Shepard. The next Ashley Burton. We need changes now, and we're kinda tired of our civil rights being dictated to us, instead of just being equal.

But if you aren't woke, I don't trust you to drive.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/27/2023 6:02:38 PM   
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Obviously, I don't mean you personally, MJ. But I think you're too lukewarm. Perhaps not an enemy, but certainly no ally I'd want. I feel the rage, but I don't know how to explain it to someone that doesn't get it yet. This is why each of us looks for our own community. Because we know when it's come down to it, there won't be nearly as many people supporting the cause.

Nobody wants to be the next Trayvon Martin. The next Matthew Shepard. The next Ashley Burton. We need changes now, and we're kinda tired of our civil rights being dictated to us, instead of just being equal.

But if you aren't woke, I don't trust you to drive.


You have identified the problem. You just have the wrong solution.

Marching in the streets with Orange hair and speedos, yelling "We're here, we're queer, get used to it" is not the answer.
Setting buildings on fire and vandalizing property is not the answer
Insisting that children's books for 5 year olds have gay characters is not the answer
Insisting that an African American Studies program have a section on Queer theory JUST because a prominent black civil rights activist was gay is not the answer
Telling young white children that they are privleged and oppressors of all non-white children is not the answer

Let's look at an example of a better way.

Antisemitism is on the rise and rose sharply during the Trump administration when neo-nazis carrying Tiki torches yelling "Jews will not replace us" were labelled as "Good people" by Trump.

DO you see Jews marching in the street shoving stars of David in people's faces? DO you see Jews saying "We're here, we're Jews, get used to it?"
DO you see Jews insisting on Jewish characters in children's books?
DO you see Jews vandalizing buildings and setting them on fire?
Do you see Jews telling all non-Jewish children that they are nazi oppressors?

Here is what the ADL does

Fight Antisemitism

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/28/2023 6:03:46 AM   
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The problem is exactly the same as it has been. The lack of equality. It doesn't matter how we try to stand up for ourselves. It's the fact that we still have to that is the issue.

You act like any minority group only uses one path to protest, yet we take so many. You criticize BLM, but fail to mention the NAACP at all, even though it has been around since 1909. Some people just don't have the patience to wait for things that should have been taken care of before they were born.

You now raise up Jews as the new model minority. Ok. Every community has issues and disagreements with all others, but not enough that I should criticize the actions they choose to take. But Ye has a new record coming, and MTG is back on Congressional Committees.

Now understand the model minority fallacy will not gain you any traction in this discussion, then go back and look at what you said.

And also remember that if Catholic priests couldn't turn boys gay, a book about two male penguins probably won't either.

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RE: FINALLY - Someone in charge who know what he's doing! - 5/28/2023 7:28:24 AM   
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The problem is exactly the same as it has been. The lack of equality. It doesn't matter how we try to stand up for ourselves. It's the fact that we still have to that is the issue.

That is completely false. IT matters a LOT how you try to stand up for yourselves.

With regard to Homosexuals. I don't know where there exists inequality for homosexuals in the context of opportunity. Homosexual athletes play in the NFL! In some states , they even get preferential hiring in the name of DEI. I am not a homosexual, so I am not aware of where inequality may still exist.
Where homosexuals are the victims of violence, the answer is to as the ADL does with Jewish victims of violence.
1. Work closely with law enforcement
2. Raise awareness of the problem (at, local, state, and Federal levels) - The ADL has forged relationships with key law enforcement officials at all levels as well as key politicians at all levels.

If homosexuals want to stop being "othered", they need to stop ACTING like "Others" - And by all means not ALL homosexuals. (and I refer to NO ONE in particular) But many...
1. STOP the divisive alphabet soup "community nonsense" "LGBTQIA+"
2. STOP the "PRIDE events"
3. STOP dressing up in outlandish clothes and acting like stupid assholes
4. STOP defining yourselves AS homosexuals, and start defining yourselves as human beings who have value to society.

And START defining yourself as Americans! As gay service men and women proudly do.

Every gay employee that I have had over my career did 1-4 above. Gay women do this wayyyy better than gay men. I am not a gay man, and do not pretend to know what a gay man experiences, but I believe if I were gay, I would be completely embarrassed by the activities in 1-4 above. I know as a heterosexual man, I embarrassed FOR my gay employees, as they are completely embarrassed by this behavior.

With regard to African Americans - Same #1, and #2 as the ADL, AND the NAACP does all the time.
1. STOP the divisive "People of Color" nonsense. If you don't want to be "othered" by white people, stop DEFINING YOURSELF as "Other" from white people!. If you are African American, and you know of African Americans who are violently targeted by bigoted morons, do #1, and #2, and raise awareness of violence against African Americans
2. DISASSOCIATE yourself from BLM. Too many BLM members resort to violence and vandalism. Don't want to be "Othered"??? STOP ACTING like violent Thugs!"
3. Recognize your heritage and factual American History and help ensure it is part of school curriculum and taught at the APPROPRIATE age.
4. STOP the "White Privilege" nonsense!!!! Don't want to be "othered"??? Stop telling white children that they are privileged and oppressors of non white children! And stop telling white adults the same bullshit!
5. STOP defining yourself as a "Person of Color" . The term "African American" is fine, as it indicates that you are an American. Terms MATTER. And stop DEFINING yourself as ANYTHING other than a huiman being with value to society.
6. STOP automatically defining yourself as oppressed and aligning yourselves with other "oppressed by definition" groups like homosexuals. - More Self "Othering"

James Baldwin, a brilliant Civil Rights Activist, was openly gay. I say openly, but he was no "gay activist". He just happened to be gay and did not hide the fact. He never let his race OR sexual identity DEFINE him Rather he spoke out eloquently about the inequality faced by AFrican Americans. He did far more for African American equality than ANY modern wokeness measures.

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You act like any minority group only uses one path to protest, yet we take so many. You criticize BLM, but fail to mention the NAACP at all, even though it has been around since 1909.

I mentioned and praised the NAACP above.

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Some people just don't have the patience to wait for things that should have been taken care of before they were born.

Martin Luther King went out of his way to disassociate himself from these people, and was able to largely marginalize them.


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You now raise up Jews as the new model minority. Ok. Every community has issues and disagreements with all others, but not enough that I should criticize the actions they choose to take.

I criticize the actions taken by groups who are creating more division and defeating the very purpose of equality.

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But Ye has a new record coming, and MTG is back on Congressional Committees.

My theory...
The reason idiots like Ye, MTG, Matt Gaetz gain popularity or Donald Trump is even supported by the masses? WOKENESS. Granted Trump appeals largely to the low information voter, but I know of brilliant, well-educated people that support him. Why? The SAME reason... WOKENESS

Don't believe me???? Look at Ron DeSantis!!! He would be nowhere NEAR the Governor's Mansion if it weren't for WOKENESS. WOKENESS has done more to bring about INEQUALITY and reverse any gains in equality, than anything the right wing could do.


One final note: Let's look at Tammy Bruce. Who is Tammy Bruce? A Right wing partisan hack (former Neocon until she jumped on the Trump train) who had a mildly successful radio show, in which she would go on partisan, factually bankrupt nonsensical rants (originally about how wonderful the Iraq war was, but now how evil non-Trump Republicans are (and all non-Republicans are) and how Trump will save the world. She is now a Fox News contributor and occasional guest host on some Fox News shows.

I have always judged her by her character, which she happens to be of low morality IMO. I have known about her and heard her radio show and seen her on Fox News for about 15 years. She is good at her job (telling partisan lies and throwing out red meat for the base). I never knew in that 15 years (or cared to research) that she is a lesbian. That fact has ZERO impact on my opinion of her. She NEVER hid her sexuality, and NEVER defined herself by it. She never used divisive alphabet soup "community" identities. She never claimed to be oppressed JUST because she is a lesbian or female. In fact she is quite wealthy. Right wing lying on Fox news turns out to be quite lucrative. She is a slimeball, not because of her views, but because she lies.

She also claims homosexuality is a preference, and NOT an orientation. A ridiculous claim from a woman who never maintained a single heterosexual relationship in her life (but mysteriously "prefers" homosexuality)

And BTW: How did she get promoted from relative radio obscurity as a Neocon to Fox News national TV? - Say it with me.... WOKENESS


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