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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:54:31 PM

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Personally I think its part of the "its not fair thing" for them. Female subs know that sex may most likely be involved with a male dominant. Female dominants do not want this and think more along service lines....so I think they think this is unfair and that maybe the women get all the luck. Personally in my real life experiences this is all a myth....but people will believe what people will believe.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:56:48 PM

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To make things simple men think visual primarily; women think multifaceted - this thread proves that

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:57:52 PM

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To make things simple men think visual primarily; women think multifaceted - this thread proves that

I believe you hit the proverbial nail on the head! (or something on the head

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:58:07 PM

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Because many people who expect money give nothing in return, whereas the people who only want a fantasy to fulfill do not see that they return nothing to most dommes either. Really, both are looking for opposite sides of a completely impersonal transaction.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:59:06 PM

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I piss you off??? We have never talked........

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:59:09 PM

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If a woman dresses in a manner that she feels comfortably fits her personality wether it be construed as "sexy" or not, should still not be an open invitation for sex. If so, then all the rapists that have used a similar argument for their defense would have a valid point.
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Granted, this is just my personal opinion, but anyone that would determine a woman's motives based entirely upon her attire is someone I don't wish to know.

Sorry, now I find I'mhaving to chime in here. The only reason I can't object is the word "entirely". What you wear, and where you wear it speaks volumes about who you are, and what your seeking.

If you wear a skimpy bikini and high, high heels to the mall, would you not expect people to stare?

If you wore the same outfit to the beach, would you expect them to stare?

The women in a push up bra and v-neck top will get more action at a local bar, then the women in a loose fitting T-shirt. Is that wrong? I'm not saying, but it is as it is.

A women walking down the street in a micro-mini skirt and fishnets will be labeled a pro, where the same women in jeans might not even be noticed.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 2:59:49 PM

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"Why all submissives are all about sex??"

Oh...what a bunch of Bull crap.

All submissives?

har har har!!!!!

I have some old bridges i'd like to sell you over the Hudson river cheap.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:03:37 PM

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Which of course, is why I said entirely. One must make allowances for bad fashion sense.

Plus, I don't believe we were discussing wether or not they would get stared at, I believe we were discussing wether or not they wanted to be fucked.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:08:21 PM

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Two points:

A - Even if the profile were to clearly and exclusively say "NO SEX," there would still be conflicting messages: Text and clearly sexual pictures. So which is the true message which someone will see?

B - The following things are mentioned in the OP's profile which could confuse a hapless sub further:

quote:

If you wish to serve me, you will worship me like the Goddess I am

While this does not directly say "SEX," common use of "worship" and such statements often imply sex on this site and sites like it. And isn't common use what language is all about?

Also used are:

Facesitting
Scents & armpits
Financial slavery (Doesn't mean prodomme, but the two often flow into each other. I mean apart from being against TOS)
Strapon training (Now if that aint sexual, call me Mother Theresa!)
Cuckolding (Mentionned twice)
Boot, body, stocking/glove, foot/hand worship
Virgin males (not sexual, but adds in one more sexual element)
Toilet servitude

Under the listed interests, she LIVES FOR

Body worship
Foot worship
Strapons
Cuckolding,

loves

Ass play
Vaccuum stimulation

Well, I'm sure you get the idea.

How on earth could a sub get a mixed message?

Yours,

benji

Edited cuz I'm only male, and have sex on my mind.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:10:23 PM

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Wellllllllllllllllllll hell!

Now I am scrambling here.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:10:47 PM

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I dont think it is all about sex.....and those who are really skilled can make the relationship be far more all encompassing. Lack of skill usually would park this relationship in the bedroom,lol.

I understand that both parties tend to think their partners are needy in these relationships (money vs sex, etc.).

The fact is both parties gain and contribute something to the other....

usually a sub does labor for his or her dom.... and usually sex is a reward in this relationship in addition to the condition of feeling bonded. No matter what the gain is for either party, something has to be gained by both sides of the equation to make the relationship truly succesful.

On a side note, I dont think it is neccesarily fair for Dommes to view subs wants for sex as being too needy. In the M/f domination relationship the female usually will want play as well....

the difference in Femdom relationships tends to fall along a quote I read once...

"women enjoy the act desiring, men enjoy the gratification of their desires" so there is a difference in F/m and M/f dominating relationships.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:12:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Wellllllllllllllllllll hell!

Now I am scrambling here.

I will take that as a compliment.

Yours,

benji

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:13:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Wellllllllllllllllllll hell!

Now I am scrambling here.

I will take that as a compliment.

Yours,

benji

At the risk of doing what we do best............you should. AND you have me sitting here laughing at myself. Thank you benji!

It's a good thing I was never on a debate team.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:21:14 PM

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I was; I placed 103rd out of 107.

Yours,

benji

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:23:23 PM

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I was; I placed 103rd out of 107.

Yours,

benji

Why am I not surprised?

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:26:53 PM

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Because I suck shit on a good day?

Yours,

benji

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:42:29 PM

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hmm...have to disagree on how one is dressed. I have a very G-rated pic and I get the same emails. Actually, I don't approach anyone assuming anything, I start a dialog with them to find out about what kind of relationship they are looking for and what kind of personality that they have. Communication is great, because lot have bad profiles and pics that I wouldn't even think of emailing them if I'd seen it first, but they turn out to be really nice people.

just my rambling thoughts

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 3:48:34 PM

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EbonyFtshGoddess, I see that a few subs have responded and I hope that you won't mind.

You state:

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anyone that approaches me SPECIFICALLY for sexual service has always turned me off- especially from someone that doesn't even serve me in any other capacity. shit, that's just a kinky booty call. what the fuck?

and I don't think that anyone can argue successfull against that statement. I do think that from the sub male side of the proverbial tracks, there is some confusion simply because some Dommes (Pros in particular) do offer a sexual quid pro quo. Perhaps the concept that each Pro might be coming from a different perspective on the sex issue can get a little lost in the "pay to play" dynamic. I've had it stated on my profile for years that I don't seek sex from a Domme and I've read several other profiles that have said the same thing, but it's not the majority, of course.

LAsub

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 4:33:24 PM

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A woman may want a man to take her to a Dance. A man may want payment to fix a woman's roof.

These two suppositions do not imply that the woman should pay a man to a dance with her, or that a man is being "put out" by taking a woman to a dance.

One is soulful (going to a dance.) It is about a coallignment of personal desires, wants, etc. The other is a business transaction, services for money.

Just because a pro Domme wants to be paid doesn't mean that women want payment for sex or equate their offering of sex as payment to a man.

Sex is not intrinsically a service commodity, although it can be sold as such (whoring.)

One other thing: how would you feel if you had to pay men to have satisfying sex with you otherwise you couldn't get any? IMO, just to go out on the limb a little bit, you might resent this situation. You might resent it even more if such men made you lust after them.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/29/2006 4:40:41 PM

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Yes, you can't pimp yourself out and be surprised of the sexual advances you get. Its a joke.

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