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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 10:33:48 AM

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Nothing sexual about that profile.LOL
"Just my thoughts:
If you don't want to be seen as a sex object, take most of the picture on your profile down. They're VERY nice, but they do rather send a message that you WANT men who are sexually motivated. You're making it hard on yourself if you're looking for service oriented men.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 10:43:03 AM

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well, for one thing...not all subs are seeking sexual activities. i AM submissive and i am happry to be of service to Dominant women without the expectation, need, want or desire for sexual contact. "IF" it ever happened, it would be by the Dominants choice, not mine. it (sex) is not something that i require at all. some say i'm a fake, phony or they say i'm lying about this...but i am not like other men. i don't subscribe to the constant neccesity for sex...hell, there's alot of things men do that i can't stand. the list is endless and not relevant to this particular forum.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 10:47:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

ok.. i can't help but ask this of the Mistresses & Female Dominants amongst us.

can someone please explain to me why males are always complaining that some dommes want/expect/demand/require tribute.. yet not many dommes seem to complain about all of the sexual requests/wants/expectations/demands placed upon us.

for me, i don't use my slaves sexually.. i prefer dominant men. if i DID fuck my slaves he sure as hell wouldn't be someone that approached me offering that.

rather than piss and moan about it, i simply just pass these males up.

why do they think it's a submissive act to do something to us that we could get in any vanilla relationship?

so let me get this straight.. it's ok for *subs* to approach dominants with a xmas list of sexual activities they want to engage in?

i truly feel these are the males that view professional domination or dommes that accept tribute or gifts as prostitution because they primarily equate their servitude as sexual..

why is it that they have such an aversion to gifting or tributing, but have NO problem sticking their tongues up a stranger's ass, into her pussy, eating shit, being pissed on etc?

and i know i can't be the only woman that doesn't use her slaves sexually. i have done it in the past.. and i'm not saying i won't ever do it again, but anyone that approaches me SPECIFICALLY for sexual service has always turned me off- especially from someone that doesn't even serve me in any other capacity. shit, that's just a kinky booty call. what the fuck?

if someone is in a committed relationship with her slave and she chooses to utilize him sexually, i feel that's entirely different than these twats that approach dommes with a wishlist of sexual things they want from her, claiming to be a *slave* or a *sub* when in stark reality.. all they want is to get off in a kinky or fetishy fashion.

any thoughts?

Yes. I am actually fucking mystified.

Then again, I'm not too intelligent and I'm easily confused.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 11:36:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
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If a woman dresses in a manner that she feels comfortably fits her personality wether it be construed as "sexy" or not, should still not be an open invitation for sex. If so, then all the rapists that have used a similar argument for their defense would have a valid point.

Oh please. Can't we take responsibility for the messages we send very clearly in the vernacular of the culture we inhabit?

If a woman sets on a card table in her front yard some outworn clothing and small appliances, and a sign that says "Free", next to another card table on which is found her most treasured heirloom jewelry can she really be so horrified when someone inquires as to whether she meant to give all these things away?

I mean after all, I didn't hear a claim that these guys are raping MissProAssInCamera but rather just tallking up the idea of sex.

If I walk into a bar and engage in talk and behavior that screams "looking for a fight" am I not an idiot if I claim surprise when someone takes a shot at me?

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Granted, this is just my personal opinion, but anyone that would determine a woman's motives based entirely upon her attire is someone I don't wish to know. If I wear a fitted black evening gown with a low neckline and a pair of high heels it is considered sexy, it does not mean I want to have sex. Anyone that approached me with that assumption would be firmly put in their place.

And if you appeared in an advertisement for, say, your "massage" service with your naked ass threatening the camera? What conclusions shouldn't anyone jump to then?

No. A miniskirt is not an invitation to rape. By the same token, the fact that a miniskirt is not a license to rape is not a license to walk into a seedy hotel lobby dressed like a whore with a fistfull of condoms and swoon when someone has the nerve to hit you up on either a cash or non-cash basis.

Everything I might have said in response to the OP has already been very well put by Benji except for this: Why does the OP along with so many other pro dommes have such an aversion to using the straightforward word "paying" in lieu of euphemisms like "gifting" and "tributing"?

And don't you get a kick out of it when the pompous burbles right over into the ironically ridiculous? Consider these selections from the top of the OP's profile:

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Often Imitated.. Never Duplicated..

Spoken as an expert in imitation. Every picture in this profile is rife with tired old BDSM cliche.

In the text of this profile the nearest thing to originality I could find was the way she tried to hide the racism inherent in her preference in partners. How clever to list every light-skinned nationality under the sun rather than say "no mud people."

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..............There is one and ONLY one Ebony Fetish Goddess........... and you have found Her..........

about Goddess

EVERYone else pales in comparison.

Well, all the white girls, anyway.

"Goddess" Of Whining and Careless Generalization?

Pathetic.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 11:44:07 AM

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Hey, you have your opinions and I have mine. As grandpa used to say........."Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one". I just don't think it is all black and white, nothing is. Besides, as I stated this morning. I don't believe the original intent was specifically about Ebony but ALL female dominants. I believe that is where the whole thread got off-track. Not ALL females that get those types of sexual emails have photos of their asses in their profiles. Some of them specify they have zero interest in sex at all and have no photo other than a face shot. I believe THAT was the point, or at least part of it.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 2:33:13 PM

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Original: LaTigresse

I had followed the other thread that created the idea. Then things got all off track, focusing on a subject that was not the original intent, at least that is my take on it this morning. Now, I still feel the way I do about photographs. I am of artistic bent and love erotica. Yes it is sexual but not necessarily a precurser to sex. Which leads to how my tired brain got off track.

since you saw the original thread that prompted me to bring up this question, i'm sure you can see my reason for doing so. however, where the original intent of the query got *derailed* was when the topic morphed into my photos, or me, or my profile. when in reality, i was drawing a correlation between sub men bitching about *ALL* women wanting tributes, yet you hardly see women dominants bitching about men *always* approaching them for sex. it does happen, but not in the same abundance of the sub males asking about why women always want tribute. it was meant to show the idiocy of lumping *ALL* dommes or *ALL* subs into any one pot. but i think you got the jist of my original query.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

Interesting argument that things like queening, cuckolding and assplay can be explained away as non-sexual. What Im picking up here is that it isnt the physical acts in question, but how they are processed by yourself and the sub. If Im correct, would it be a safe assumption to say that you wouldnt mind a sub who wanted to eat you out and touch your tits and ass, as long as it was being processed as 'goddess worship' and he didnt cum from the experience?

in the way i handle things.. it's not really about how the sub processes something as much as how it's processed and interrpreted by me and how i allow them to interact with me or my body. my slaves know that for me, body worship is sexually non oral. feet/boot/hand licking etc is ok, but no intimate parts of my body are to be licked- i reserve that for my Dominant male lovers. i'm sure they'd feel like it could one day be their lucky day or something, but it's not the basis of our worship. to play devil's advocate, i know women that totally construe those acts of oral sexual worship as part of their interaction with their slaves. and that works well for them... if that's what SHE wants, but it is she that makes the rules, just like i make mine. there simply isn't an all singing-all dancing definition for most things in BDSM that applies to everything or everyone.. to answer your question more succinctly- yes, i would consider tit/ass/pussy licking as sexual because it involves slave contact with an intimate part of my body. not everyone holds the same definition i do. and i can respect that. and intimate, oral or penetrative contact with my intimate body parts is not something i partake in with my slaves. they're slaves.. not my lovers.

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ORIGINAL: lunamor
Why should a Dom conceal or minimize her attractiveness? A Dom in beautiful fetish clothing will of course turn on a wanker as well, but it's completely unfair to blame the Dom for unsolicited sexual advances, or offers of exclusively sexual service when she clearly doesn't seek it or encourage it. Displaying her beauty and sexuality can be a wonderful source of power and energy for a Dom, it can inspire a slave to feel even more unworthy, even more adoring and submissive to a Dom's will. It's not always a not-so-covert invitation to coitus! A slave may hope to kiss a Mistress' hand or foot, he may dream of being ordered to kneel at her feet and pleasure her as best he can but he would never dare to expect or demand sexual involvement, he wouldn't even think of touching a Mistress without her permission. And that's exactly as it should be, in my opinion.

i wholeheartedly concur..that's precisely how i view it. sadly, that wasn't my intention of this post.. but it has certainly seemed to morph into that, so thought provoking discussion on pressing topics is always a good thing, even if unintentional. just because i enjoy my sexuality and take power in it.. doesn't mean it's encouraging anything sexual no more than a woman dressed sexily is encouraging rape. i for one love fetish and fashion that exhibits my personal tastes in fetish. i would say out of 20 emails i receive.. one or two of them would approach me the way you view things. and you know what? that's pretty damn good considering you have to stick you hands into many piles of shit before you pull out that accidentally swallowed diamond. if anything, my photos provide me with a barometer by which to judge and scrutinize men that approach me. if they only want to serve me because they find me lovely, then they aren't my sort of male. and they've effectively crossed themselves off my list. as a dominant female, i shouldn't have to minimize my attractiveness just because some males are incapable of controlling their urges or supressing them enough to serve me beyond that.

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ORIGINAL: michealGA2

well, for one thing...not all subs are seeking sexual activities. i AM submissive and i am happry to be of service to Dominant women without the expectation, need, want or desire for sexual contact. "IF" it ever happened, it would be by the Dominants choice, not mine. it (sex) is not something that i require at all. some say i'm a fake, phony or they say i'm lying about this...but i am not like other men. i don't subscribe to the constant neccesity for sex...hell, there's alot of things men do that i can't stand. the list is endless and not relevant to this particular forum.

i know not all males view their service as sexual or only sexual. my original intent of this thread was definitely lost along the way. probably lost upon the same ones that would see my pics and not be able to get past the *sexuality* expressed therein. i don't lump anyone into any particular category.. i was proving a point. men don't want to be viewed like all they want is sex, JUST like dommes tire of the same "all we want is money" scpheel.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 2:38:20 PM

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 3:10:28 PM

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Normally i try to take the time to read through everyone's post before making a reply and condense all of my replies to one message rather than posting like 5 back to back. but i just had to give you your own little 15 seconds of shame.

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ORIGINAL: Noah

Why does the OP along with so many other pro dommes have such an aversion to using the straightforward word "paying" in lieu of euphemisms like "gifting" and "tributing"?

all of the pro dommes that i see posting on here make it CLEAR that they expect tribute or monetary compensation both in their forum posts and on their profiles. uh.newsflash brainchild (and trust me, i do use that term RATHER loosely) umm wouldn't it be rather counter productive for them not to? no one has a business and never advertises it.what good would it do for a pro do spring shit on guys later? they'll only get pissed and leave anyway. that way if someone is upfront then the male at least knows what he's getting into.. and trust me, many men on collarme are seeking pro dommes.

secondly, i'm a not a pro domme and nor am i seeking clients. i have had 4 professional sessions in the past (like 2 years ago) from males when i went to germany. 3 of those 4 now are my personal slaves and have been since after our first meeting. all 3 of them now see me on a non tributed/monetarily compensated basis. that makes me a semi-pro domme as i have done pro sessions in the past, but it is not my livelihood or is that what i'm seeking here. i have contemplated full time professional domination, but the jury is still out on as to whether or not i will. so get your facts straight. people like you and dog love those inconsequential little profile pick-aparts and turn them into something completely off base. while totally taking what best suits your little meek arguments and tossing the rest to the wayside because it doesn't suit your little means.

i notice you didn't post this part of my profile:

I don't seek online slaves or cam slaves. If this is what you seek, then good luck on your search. I am only seeking lifestyle slaves and not curious session subs who want a few kinky hours or only available on the weekend. Go pay a pro domme instead of wasting My precious, golden time.

i'm here to find lifestyle slaves & not curious session subs that just want to explore BDSM without real commitment or ownership. if i wanted pro clients i have men approaching me here all the time offering sessions. one even posted on the thread where this query was birthed from yesterday saying he'd pay me even if i didn't ask him to. obviously i'd have NO problem finding client subs if i wanted that. however, i don't quite care for session slaves because i prefer ownership i felt unfulfilled with the 4 pro sessions i've given in the past. both the slaves & i wanted more- that's why i currently own 3 of those 4 males. if i was such a pro domme, i'd announce that shit anywhere to anyone that would listen so i could get some sessions and get paid. it's rather counterproductive not to advertise your business if you want it to succeed. methinks you need to take a marketing course.

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ORIGINAL: Noah

And don't you get a kick out of it when the pompous burbles right over into the ironically ridiculous? Consider these selections from the top of the OP's profile:

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Often Imitated.. Never Duplicated..

Spoken as an expert in imitation. Every picture in this profile is rife with tired old BDSM cliche.

That little blurb you pilfered from my tag line came from the 5+ profiles on CollarMe where members had stolen my photos and made their own profiles. It's rather true.. i am often imitated.. and i'm also never duplicated. nothing cliche there. the only cliche thing i see is the same wanely mundane profile pick-aparts. pompous? why thank you.. i take that as a compliment coming from you.

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ORIGINAL: Noah

In the text of this profile the nearest thing to originality I could find was the way she tried to hide the racism inherent in her preference in partners. How clever to list every light-skinned nationality under the sun rather than say "no mud people."

um, you have some SERIOUS issues. first off, my preference for dating interracially would obviously carry over to my preference for the sort of slave i like. i'm attracted to blonde haired & blue eyed males. the majority of my slaves fit that criterion. i'm not going to apologize for my choice to date interracially or even more than prefunctorily address your assertions on that. if you want to get more *techincal*.... i typically prefer EUROPEAN males over their american or canadian counterparts. so rather than turn it into why i prefer white males over *mud people* (as you so openmindedly and colourblindly put it) a more apt assertion would have been why do i prefer EUROPEAN males over americans or canadians. but no.. your feeble mind drew the best conclusion you could give with little grey matter you're obviously working with..

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ORIGINAL: Noah

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about Goddess

EVERYone else pales in comparison.

Well, all the white girls, anyway.

lol no need to justify that with much of a response.. i'll just let you hang yourself with that little noose (yes, pun intended)

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ORIGINAL: Noah
"Goddess" Of Whining and Careless Generalization?

if you had taken the time to read everything posted thus far, you'd have seen originally that this wasn't about *me* so no whining here- more like a disparity call.

i think that little closing remark of yours should really say "Noah" King of Off Topic Conclusions & Not So Clandestine Bigotry.

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ORIGINAL: Noah
Pathetic.

you damn sure are. someone's gene pool needs chlorine.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 3:25:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one". I just don't think it is all black and white, nothing is. Besides, as I stated this morning. I don't believe the original intent was specifically about Ebony but ALL female dominants. I believe that is where the whole thread got off-track. Not ALL females that get those types of sexual emails have photos of their asses in their profiles. Some of them specify they have zero interest in sex at all and have no photo other than a face shot. I believe THAT was the point, or at least part of it.

nope, you understand everything just as it was meant to be. i definitely wasn't talking about myself.. some just chose to jump on the picture bandwagon when it wasn't about me nor my photos. i was merely pointing to a discrepancy between what i notice of men whining about pro dommes and women rarely seem to whine about men always approaching them for sex. i know women here regardless of if they even have a pic up get approached all in the same manner- so the original query definitely wasn't about me.

men don't want to be lumped together as only wanting to offer sexual servitude and the female dominants here tire of the same things we get lumped into. a reasoning person would realize that generalizations just toss out the baby with the bathwater. with that being said, sometimes logic falls upon deaf ears of the illogical.

it was meant to draw attention to the fact that no one likes to be stereotyped or lumped into one toy bag. but of course, there will always be people that either can't be arsed enough to read the whole thread before making an intelligent response OR they simply want to be divisive, create dissention and turn any thread they can get their hands on into something that best suits their needs.

eh, so be it.

i am rather confident in the fact that my initial point of the thread was duly noted by anyone that A: read the other thread that birthed this one and B: took the time to note the fact that nothing on my intial discrepancy query was pertaining what i've noticed in regards to myself in particular.

that's the beauty of fora though. it's just like BDSM. 5 different people can look at a thread and take it 5 different ways. the best someone can hope for is that they present a point and *hope* that it reaches it's target per it's intention. at the end of the day, you got the jist of what i was saying. so don't doubt yourself on that fact.

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one"

truer words have never been spoken..

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 3:27:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

**i am not a sex-object** (unfortunately...LOL)

haha.. if you believe you can achieve

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 3:43:44 PM

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I've alwaus found whining from many males subs here to be rather pathetic. But that doesn't mean they are ALL pathetic whiners, because SOME do. Nor do I think someone putting themselves forward at thier best makes them any sort of a "commodity".

As far as Noah, I don't take him very seriously. He seems so bound up in his "brilliant superiorty" that it Never really shows. Whatever, not really important. He's really just another button pusher. I appauld you for going after what you desire, and the hell with what the rest think.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 4:39:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Frank01

I've alwaus found whining from many males subs here to be rather pathetic. But that doesn't mean they are ALL pathetic whiners, because SOME do. Nor do I think someone putting themselves forward at thier best makes them any sort of a "commodity".

As far as Noah, I don't take him very seriously. He seems so bound up in his "brilliant superiorty" that it Never really shows. Whatever, not really important. He's really just another button pusher. I appauld you for going after what you desire, and the hell with what the rest think.

Diplomatic Frank, I agree with you.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 4:52:41 PM

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i'm more like an unidentified flying object...LOL

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 8:05:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: socalseeker

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I myself seek to be in a relationship with a slave who loves sex, because I certainly plan to use him that way. However, if he cannot approach me as a woman with whom he can have a relationship, he will certainly never get to know about my sexuality...

You give me hope Ma'am

There are plenty of us who seek a similar situation. Rest assured, we expect to be treated as a woman, not as the dirty ol "keeper of the pussy."

socalseeker:

Just dont ask her what the scalpel and chest of ice is for.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 9/30/2006 10:28:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: socalseeker

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I myself seek to be in a relationship with a slave who loves sex, because I certainly plan to use him that way. However, if he cannot approach me as a woman with whom he can have a relationship, he will certainly never get to know about my sexuality...

You give me hope Ma'am

There are plenty of us who seek a similar situation. Rest assured, we expect to be treated as a woman, not as the dirty ol "keeper of the pussy."

socalseeker:

Just dont ask her what the scalpel and chest of ice is for.

I'm not in the habit of making jokes about the employment of others, especially when it saves lives, and I don't believe I've ever offended you in that manner. I'd appreciate some courtesy in that regard.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/1/2006 2:17:36 AM

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greetings

i think they have such a strong need to be dominant thyey can not think of anything else but their needs. i think with training they can be taught to control this need and take care of their mistress or master first then they will come later lol i did not mean come i meant they will be taken care of later. i had many subs who write me and ask for thing that they know they should not be asking it is disrespectful to me so i write back and let them no i am not interest at all so that is my take on it

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/1/2006 8:40:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: socalseeker

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I myself seek to be in a relationship with a slave who loves sex, because I certainly plan to use him that way. However, if he cannot approach me as a woman with whom he can have a relationship, he will certainly never get to know about my sexuality...

You give me hope Ma'am

There are plenty of us who seek a similar situation. Rest assured, we expect to be treated as a woman, not as the dirty ol "keeper of the pussy."

socalseeker:

Just dont ask her what the scalpel and chest of ice is for.

I'm not in the habit of making jokes about the employment of others, especially when it saves lives, and I don't believe I've ever offended you in that manner. I'd appreciate some courtesy in that regard.

Your attitude has offended me plenty. But I choose to rise above it. And simply made an attempt at levity. I should have known that your coarse attitude would never allow you to appreciate the gesture, even if the subject chosen felt 'wrong' to you. You'll not have to worry about it happening again.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/1/2006 11:41:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Frank01

I've alwaus found whining from many males subs here to be rather pathetic. But that doesn't mean they are ALL pathetic whiners, because SOME do.

i definitely do not feel that all sub males here are pathetic, sex hungry trolls. now with that being said, i do feel that there is an overabundance of males here that behave thusly. just like i also read and believe from the male submissive standpoint that an overabundance of female dominants here will spring the tribute trap on them. so the knife cuts both ways. no one wants to be painted by the same brush just because it may hold true for some. a portrait painted with one brush lacks imagination and gets arduously tedious to bear after a while. my intention was to address that no one enjoys being lumped into this all or nothing sort of scenario. we're all individuals & as such we should all be judged upon our own merits. blanket statements never get anyone anywhere. apparently the ambivalent devil's advocate approach i took on this topic was lost on few along the way. of course not all males here only offer sexual servitude and conversely not all dominant women here are lying in wait to spring the tribute trap or pro session on the unsuspecting male either. but it does happen on both sides.

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ORIGINAL: Frank01

Nor do I think someone putting themselves forward at thier best makes them any sort of a "commodity".

i couldn't agree with you more there. i'm confident in my sexuality and i own it. i'm comfortable in my skin, regardless of if said skin is covered in rubber hotpants, jeans, or naked on a beach somewhere nude sunbathing. i will always endeavour to put my best foot fwd no matter where i am- online, at the supermarket or wherever. i take pride in my body, the way i look and i have no problem whatsoever expressing that pride in whatever form that expression may take. my slaves will worship me the same regardless of if i'm wearing a latex catsuit or jeans & a t-shirt- i'm still their goddess and still just as dominant. if someone can't get past the fetishistic iconography that my profile & photos exude.. then that's their error, not mine. i don't feel the need to tone my look down merely because someone is too shallow to see the inherent and apparent substance of being that lies beyond my visage.

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As far as Noah, I don't take him very seriously. He seems so bound up in his "brilliant superiorty" that it Never really shows. Whatever, not really important. He's really just another button pusher.

it takes a lot to perturb or get a rise out of me.. i mean a LOT. i'm too even tempered (to a fault at times) to allow most things to get to me. his backdoor bigotry was not lost on me in the least- i just simply didn't see any point in dignifying that particular little tidbit o' enlightenment with more than a precursory acknowledgement. this is not the first time in my life that my intentions or actions have been misconstrued by another- nor will it be the last. i sure as hell am not gonna waste and sleep over it and my sun will still continue to rise in the east then set in the west. the sheer vast majority of things i encounter in life just roll off of me like water from a duck's back. i can only think of a handful of people in my life whose opinions truly matter to me- and none of them are here on collarme. everything and everyone else i take with a grain of salt. i tend to view situations in a *bigger scheme of things* sorta light. if something doesn't effect me or the world i live in directly, then it really sorta goes in one ear and out of the other and doesn't warrant much from heartfelt reaction from me. at the end of the day, nothing anyone says will have much impact on how i dress, or train my slaves or any other interpersonal relationships i engage in.

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I appauld you for going after what you desire, and the hell with what the rest think.

lol damn STRAIGHT! i can't move forward whilst looking back. i make my own reality, and i suggest everyone do the same. when all is said and done, and it's finally time for me to take my last breath, i'll be the only one on my deathbed with me- not a single soul else. and i for one don't want to check out with any regrets or "i wish i would have been brave enough to do XYZ" weighing heavily on my dying mind. as far as i know.. we only have one life and this ain't no dress rehearsal. you can't please everyone all the time, nor is it my intention to attempt to do so

so i may as well please myself

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/1/2006 2:41:09 PM

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And those, ladies and gentleman are the words of a person that garners MY respect!

Not that Ebony needs it mind you. However, I admire the person behind those words. One thing too many on here forget....we don't all have to agree, we don't all have to do/like/want, the same shit. How boring this world would be if we did. But I get so sick of all the trash talking on this site just because we don't all see eye to eye on everything. It does not matter. It just sure does suck that we have to treat others like dogshit when we don't agree with them. It's immature and disrespectful of the other person's humanity. Not to mention it makes us look like fools when we do it.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/1/2006 3:45:44 PM

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For the life of me I could never understand why people can get so uptight and blow up about things before they actually sit down and converse with a person. A profile is a hinting guide as to who a person is and I'm sorry but I really don't see anything in the pictures of Ebony's profile thqt comes off as 'do me do me' LaTigresse has made a few comments directed towards that and i think you guys need to clearly read the first post thoroughly and respond to the subject rather than bashing or flaming about thing you have assumed from viewing her profile.

Assume- make an ass out of u and me

I am a member of the forums at blueblood.net and just because these models have pictures posted of them in the nude in sexy attire etc. it does not mean that they can be harrased so i really don't see why it should be so very different for a Dom/me. I don't care that this is a different lifestyle for most, that does not give one an excuse to be rude, especially a sub. It seesm what everyone needs to learn are something called manners and how to go debating things versus slandering and being a general nuisance.

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