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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 5:42:47 AM

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i saw the topic here and felt the need to respond. Not ALL submissives are all about sex. Being female i can get sex whenever i want it if that is what i choose but i don't because it's not all about sex for me. Its the domination i crave. The sense of belonging to someone. Feeling secure, safe, wanted and loved. So personally the 'ALL' statement is incorrect.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 5:44:36 AM

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i have said this myself, and i find the term "ALL" to be misleading as well.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 10:22:53 AM

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Off the direct topic, but I think this has to be said:

We all should take responsibility for the "messages" we send. That being said, there is NO rational thought that allows for sexual assault (verbal, online, physical, etc.) based upon the victim's "message". The "message" -- no matter how inviting -- never gives permission. NEVER. The ability to understand that and control ourselves makes us adults (and I might add, defines, in part, what it is to be a man, not a child or an animal.)

I get very tired of this view, that individual responsibility should always rule. Sometimes it is incumbent upon a responsible person NOT to act in the face of invitation. To believe otherwise is really just an intellectually gussied up way of saying "she asked for it." If a sixteen year old (gender is unimportant) flirts, preens, pouts, dresses seductively, does that give Me permission? Of course not. I would hope all of us see that. If a 34 year old does it, again, does it offer me permission? Of course not.

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If a woman dresses in a manner that she feels comfortably fits her personality wether it be construed as "sexy" or not, should still not be an open invitation for sex. If so, then all the rapists that have used a similar argument for their defense would have a valid point.

Noah: Oh please. Can't we take responsibility for the messages we send very clearly in the vernacular of the culture we inhabit?

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 11:29:47 AM

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i think this shold have it's own forum, but as You said:

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Off the direct topic, but I think this has to be said:

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 11:34:25 AM

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Well said Emperor.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 12:45:12 PM

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this is why i don't reply on any topic i can't be arsed enough to read the WHOLE thread before i may a reply.

if the aboves had read what i meant.. they'd have seen i don't mean an OBVIOUS all.

tsk tsk tsk

god bless short attention span last post reading people that reply.

i don't jump into a thread without reading it all.

my point and intetion has been made PAINFULLY clear.

anyone with an attention span past 1st grade would see what i mean.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 12:46:34 PM

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While I get several emails for those just looking for sex I get an equal amount wanting to move from wherever to be My "personal" slave...I have one of those already,actually I have a couple of them.
The ones that are in this catagory get some perks sometimes.

I have been lucky and found several that are not into a sexual session.Hard to believe but true.

I will admit that some who come for sessions have the thought in the back of their head,that maybe,just maybe She'll have sex with me.They leave disappointed,but come back for another beating,perhaps each time they hope they might get lucky,I cant control that.
What I can control is make it clear it wont happen.Those that can deal with that come back those who cant deal with it,dont come back.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/3/2006 12:50:09 PM

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quote:

Emperor1956

Off the direct topic, but I think this has to be said:

We all should take responsibility for the "messages" we send. That being said, there is NO rational thought that allows for sexual assault (verbal, online, physical, etc.) based upon the victim's "message". The "message" -- no matter how inviting -- never gives permission. NEVER. The ability to understand that and control ourselves makes us adults (and I might add, defines, in part, what it is to be a man, not a child or an animal.)

I get very tired of this view, that individual responsibility should always rule. Sometimes it is incumbent upon a responsible person NOT to act in the face of invitation. To believe otherwise is really just an intellectually gussied up way of saying "she asked for it." If a sixteen year old (gender is unimportant) flirts, preens, pouts, dresses seductively, does that give Me permission? Of course not. I would hope all of us see that. If a 34 year old does it, again, does it offer me permission? Of course not.

hear hear.. point well taken

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/12/2006 9:01:47 AM

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EbonyFtshGoddess:
When I saw your pics I was instantly attracted...you are drop dead georgeous.
I read your profile and saw that we only had one thing in common...motorcycles....and since you have a GS 850 it will seldom need maintainence.
consequently I did not respond to your posting. But then I am not a teenager I can read.
I would like to thank you for the eye candy though.
Shiny side up rubber side down

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 3:03:38 AM

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Greetings,

I don't think all subs are all about sex...in a possible ltr with a domme, a sub like me would not expect the relationship to based on sexual activities.
Anyway these things should be discussed at the very beggining...however, I see nothing wrong with the subs that are into the lifestyle because it all tunes them on sexually. And we are not all complaining about tributes...to each his/her own.

But I would like to ask one question...is there a tribute big enough for dommes, that don't have sex with their subs, to change their mind?

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 3:12:22 AM

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*shrugs* I could live without sex, but I really do prefer it, but that isn't what I look for in a relationship

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 6:46:17 AM

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But I would like to ask one question...is there a tribute big enough for dommes, that don't have sex with their subs, to change their mind?

I am sure for some, yes. For others, no.

Perhaps said tribute to get someone to change their mind would be being the best submissive one could be to where the Domme is so charged and excited by the submissive that she just can't wait to get her...hands...on you.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:18:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston

Perhaps said tribute to get someone to change their mind would be being the best submissive one could be to where the Domme is so charged and excited by the submissive that she just can't wait to get her...hands...on you.

yeah...now that sounds just a little too poetic

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:35:35 AM

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It works for me. YMMV

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:50:17 AM

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great...if it works that way for you, you get the best from it all...
Problem with many threads on this community is that they all begin with..."Why all dommes do this or do that or, why all subs complain about this or that..."
too much generalizing

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:53:33 AM

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yes...but I've learned not to take it all so seriously. ALL this and ALL that is unrealistic in any venue but especially with it comes to BDSM.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:58:35 AM

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I could not agree more...thx

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 9:41:47 PM

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Hi.

This was a good question. Here's my experience on it.

men usually think with their penis (real men admit this fact).

At the Academy we accept this common fact but we've found ways to train the man not to think with his penis so much.

A Mistress can drop subtle hints like SERVE ME, NOT YOUR PENIS!!

But the best way is to train him with Chastity Training.

At first it might seem that Chastity Training caters to his penis again but in the end it actually makes him a better slave because at the Academy we found that the LONGER a slave is chastised, the LESS he thinks with his penis, and the MORE subservient he becomes.

After time it becomes natural for him to think less about his penis and more about serving the Mistress.

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/13/2006 11:58:39 PM

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At the Academy we accept this common fact but we've found ways to train the man not to think with his penis

What is this, Starfleet?

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RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? - 10/14/2006 7:19:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

At the Academy we accept this common fact but we've found ways to train the man not to think with his penis

What is this, Starfleet?

Psst, I clicked the website in her profile/post and figured it out.

Academy Assistant Mistress
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