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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 7:22:34 PM   
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Tal,

So let me get this straight, is a shared cigar having sex?


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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 7:28:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: psykocloud32

I never have sex on a first date, never, and then I don't always have sex while scening with someone either. ......... I always make that very clear to everyone I speak with



Could make for interesting grocery shopping.

"You go ahead, you only have a few items."

"Thanks!  By the way, if you tie me up and whip me, I won't have sex with you."

Yours,


benji

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 7:39:48 PM   
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Methinks the operative word here is "penetrative". 

As a Domme, I often have sex with a partner when both of us will cum--or one of us, or neither of us--but there is NO penetration of any sort involved.  There may, OR MAY NOT be mouth-to-genital contact.  It is still sex. 

Beware of what are called "technical virgins". 

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 7:45:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomFey

As a Domme, I often have sex with a partner when both of us will cum--or one of us, or neither of us--but there is NO penetration of any sort involved.  There may, OR MAY NOT be mouth-to-genital contact.  It is still sex. 



In that case, I've had sex with almost every bunny out there.

I never knew it was that easy!

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 8:05:43 PM   
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Sex researchers have struggled for years with survey questions regarding "having sex" and how different people define it.  For some, "having sex" is a french kiss.  For others, anal play doesn't qualify, only penile-vaginal intercourse.  By that standard, many active, practicing lesbians and gays without heterosexual experience would be judged to have never "had sex".  I use this only as an example. 

There has been much reporting on studies of high school students who believe that mouth-to-genital contact, as well as anal play, is not "sex". 

I do not mean to start a fight here--perhaps this would be better dealt with in a new thread.  But I ask you, exactly what activities do you consider to be "sex" and what are not?  Why do you parse them the way you do?  Please define. 

Thank you,

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 11/30/2006 11:48:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilsnowywolf

I would like to hear some more answers to this question also.  I run into many Doms who either want sex or want instant obedience and I barely know them.  That is why i have given up looking for now.


I was very stupid and overeager when I first joined this site and thought my 4 yrs experience of on-line dating would provide me with a good enough knowledge for recognizing fakers.    To my dismay it did not, I had many fakers and wannabe take advantage of me.  By reading the forums and contacting a few Masters on here  I was able to learn how to tell the difference.  I am now the sub of a Master he lives in MA after the holidays we will finally actually meet.  Due to health reasons and after he has seen a  heart specialists we will decided if I am to accept a collar then.

We have discussed sex but have left it to be how we both feel at time of meeting but he said even before he know of his heart condition that he did not believe in expectig such an intimate thing from a sub/slave until she/he was ready.  That is how you gain trust which is most needed in this lifestyle.  You can only give yourself fully and openly to a Master you can trust and respect.  If you have any doubts at all during any talking with them then they are no good. 

I have always trusted my gut instinct.  I may have let a few morons get close to me but I always let my gut instinct rule in the end. 

Yes it is worth it to keep looking you just have to set rules and guidelies and not let any man on here say he is your Master till YOU say it first.  Know what you are worth and don't forget it.  I wish you luck in your search. 

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/13/2006 9:42:54 AM   
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Wow, that is just terrifying. Just goes to show you that who people are, what they need and who they match with can varry hugely. I would at least hope that the submissives in question knew what kind of experiance they were about to have. I would never meet anyone for a first meeting at a private residance. I don't think there is a wrong or a right in all of this, it's all just about finding matches. I will be honest though,  your  description made me double glad that I have found Sir and that I am no longer doing first meetings in coffee shops and such. Whew, it's good to be where one belongs.

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This is the way to start off a wholesome and fulfilling BDSM relationship. Don't listen to those who want you to have a meeting where you negotiate what is allowed. That kills romance. Its better just to do it and talk about it later.  

This is the Ask a Master forum and that's my answer.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/14/2006 4:37:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

I will give you a third scenario

You met online and have been talking for months.  You travel 3000 miles to visit and meet this Dominant in the flesh and confirm to yourselves all that has been exchanged in hours upon hours of communication phone, chat and emails.  When you finally met him... you know without doubt that you are his.  He as asks you what you want.  and all you can do is respond with "I want to be yours".  He then accepts you and then uses you appropriately to satisify his desires.

This is a highlight of the scenario between kyra and myself.... I will be using her for the rest of her life. 


That is beautiful, and I commend you for finding someone so special to you, but the question is about "requirements".  You obviously didn't "require" Kyra to have sex with you the first time you met.  Would you have if things hadn't worked out the way they did?

I have never been "required" to have sex on the first meeting, though I have been "tested" sexually (no panties - that sort of thing).  If it was ever a "requirement" that would have been our *only* meeting.

Kinky doesn't equal easy.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/14/2006 4:39:48 PM   
afeathr


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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Tal,

So let me get this straight, is a shared cigar having sex?

Bull


Oh goodness!  We are *not* going to go there, are we?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 2:24:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: afeathr

That is beautiful, and I commend you for finding someone so special to you, but the question is about "requirements".  You obviously didn't "require" Kyra to have sex with you the first time you met.  Would you have if things hadn't worked out the way they did?

I have never been "required" to have sex on the first meeting, though I have been "tested" sexually (no panties - that sort of thing).  If it was ever a "requirement" that would have been our *only* meeting.

Kinky doesn't equal easy.


We came together with hopes/desires and alot of fantasies *G*.... but there was no expectations or requirments that We would have sex or anything else for that matter.  It worked very well for us.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 2:29:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Tal,

So let me get this straight, is a shared cigar having sex?


Bull


only after rigorous, extrenuous activity...LOL


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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 8:06:35 PM   
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yeah that senario can happen.  Where you meet and just click* and it feels ok to satisfy needs.  Which is fine.  As long as people can accept that just because one feels it click and has expectations, the other party may just be out for a good time.

I had a similar senario to yours a decade ago.  I believe we lasted 2 months.  Fortunately we had fun, it ended peacefully, and both of us walked away with feelings intact.  If people have realistic expectations and want to take that chance, great.  The problem is too many females think that if you want us, you want to keep us.  And that just isn't true for many situations.  Your lady and you found something that is rare.

Now, you can count me among the no sex on the first date tribe.  I prefer a full bodied development rather than instant. 
Kyst

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 11:23:31 PM   
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I've only once had sex on the first date. 
 
We met online in 1995 on AOL - I was bored waiting for a fax to come in and someone suggested I check out our area on AOL to kill time (at that point I worked for a major record label).   One thing led to another, did a member search for "deep ellum" (nightclub section of Dallas), sent out a few generic emails asking what was going on in the music scene.  One of the guys who responded I ended up hitting it off with.
 
7 months of IM and phone calls and he finally flew to NYC to meet me because he knew I'd be in the same country as he, for more than 72 hours.  Paramount Hotel.  I'm hanging out the window at 10:30pm like a damn groupie to get a look at him from 5 floors up. 
 
When he entered the room I wouldn't turn to look at him - I'm a lousy actress and knew I wouldn't be able to mask my emotions if he was QuasiModo.  I finally looked at him and my first words were, "Oh my God, you're gorgeous!"
 
10 minutes later I had pushed him back onto the bed and was going down on him like nobody's business.  We had so much sex in the first 48 hours, I was walkinng like one of those cowboys that had been on a horse for several days -- very bow legged!  To this day, he says that the best sex of his life happened on 9/5/95 (the day we finally met).
 
Anyway - 10 years later and we're still together.  He's still my first and only "sex on the first date" boy.  Sometimes, you just have to go with your vibes.


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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 11:35:08 PM   
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Nice story, VV.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/16/2006 11:54:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VelvetVise13

Anyway - 10 years later and we're still together. He's still my first and only "sex on the first date" boy. Sometimes, you just have to go with your vibes.


Nice!

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 12/17/2006 4:00:30 PM   
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In answer to your question:
If sex was not discussed prior to meeting in either case, then I would not expect sex at the first meeting. Of course, I would not meet anyone having only spoken a "few times" online.
I don't meet anyone until we have spoken via webcam and telephone (at the same time) so that I know who it is I'm going to be meeting. Plus, the webcam will give a small insight into the other person's environment.
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