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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:03:33 PM

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Uh huh. And what about pride? I thought pride was a mortal sin. If there's one thing I can't abide, it's proud Christians.

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It's good to know I'm not the only one with morals.

So where you lying when you wrote this post or were you lying in your last post because both these statements can't be true.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:06:07 PM

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It's a beautiful language, you know.

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LaM anal about the english language???!!
Noooooo.

It's beautiful when certain words are used.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:13:26 PM

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Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to bash anyone else. I'm just telling what I've heard men say. It is possible to have male friends who aren't friends with benefits. Many men have told me they would never consider a relationship with a woman who had sex on the first date. I've also been told in a forum that if a woman doesn't put out by the second date, she's leading the man on. Does anyone see the catch 22 here?

Then the "many men" you are talking to about this are immature losers.

Here is how the thinking goes for such men. "Well, if she fucked me on the first date, that must mean she will fuck anyone on the first date and she probably fucks every guy she goes out with on the first date." What such men are doing is saying they are no better than every other loser out there. Simply put, they don't think much of themselves. Or they think that the woman is incapable of discriminating between men; that all men are the same, sort of like Hershey bars.

How stupid is that?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:16:48 PM

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Yeah, like "This bitch wants more, sir."

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It's a beautiful language, you know.

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LaM anal about the english language???!!
Noooooo.

It's beautiful when certain words are used.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:20:25 PM

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Yeah, like "This bitch wants more, sir."

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It's a beautiful language, you know.

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LaM anal about the english language???!!
Noooooo.

It's beautiful when certain words are used.

That about covers it. Although it shoud be This bitch wants more, Sir.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:32:56 PM

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Looks like I'm training you well.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:33:46 PM

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I think we should attempt an experiment. I meet various women from here and we document what happens and post the results for peer review.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:42:47 PM

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Looks like I'm training you well.

Is that what we're doing? How fun.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:43:47 PM

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I think we should attempt an experiment. I meet various women from here and we document what happens and post the results for peer review.

Can I be your secretary?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:47:46 PM

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I don't think you're immoral at all nor do I necessarily think anyone who has sex when the first meet someone is. I'm simply repeating what I have been told by men. The only thing I'm being judgemental about is the catch 22.

To answer your question directly, yes, I do know of men that would lose respect for a woman if they slept with them on the first date. Of course, I would not have any respect for them for being so simple minded so it would be who cares moment in my life.

I have never heard of the two date thing you described. I have heard of on the third date it is put out or get out but even that I think is more media/entertainment driven then some form of strict rule people go by. To be honest when you wrote about the two date thing it simply sounds like a scam some guys who know sex on the first date is a long shot but try to scam it on a second date might try to get out there.

It still comes down to the individual and matching up with an individual both in chemistry and beliefs. I do not think there is a double standard it just that people have issues with somethings and some do not. Whether sex, BDSM, politics, dress codes, and on and on. Sex just happens to be something that brings out the differences and issues maybe more passionately.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:50:04 PM

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Can I be your secretary?

Meant to say:

Can I be your secretary, Sir?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:51:34 PM

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Yeah, and Crappy, let me know if you need a publisher.

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I think we should attempt an experiment. I meet various women from here and we document what happens and post the results for peer review.

Can I be your secretary?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:53:16 PM

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Smartass, Sir.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:54:20 PM

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It's good to know I'm not the only one with morals.

So where you lying when you wrote this post or were you lying in your last post because both these statements can't be true.

I made that comment because sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority and it's good to know I'm not. The only thing I look down on is the catch 22 men put women in. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. In deciding between the 2 evils I decided I'd rather have a reputation for leading guys on than having guys call me a tramp. I'm talking about men judging women, not me judging anyone.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:54:22 PM

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In the spirit of things, I will be documenting my research using a very sharp quill and writing my research upon the naked flesh of my secretaries.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 12:57:41 PM

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No, Crappy, bad idea. I mean, that's fun and all, but ink fades and naked flesh decays. You need someone to transcribe your writings and reproduce them on a durable medium.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 1:13:35 PM

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It's good to know I'm not the only one with morals.

So where you lying when you wrote this post or were you lying in your last post because both these statements can't be true.

I made that comment because sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority and it's good to know I'm not. The only thing I look down on is the catch 22 men put women in. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. In deciding between the 2 evils I decided I'd rather have a reputation for leading guys on than having guys call me a tramp. I'm talking about men judging women, not me judging anyone.

I guess I don't really get your concern with how men judge you, especially early on. Personally, I'm way more concerned with assessing who they are, and if I can respect them. Their opinion of me only matters if I've already decided to respect them.

I don't see it as a moral question. If the chemistry's there, I act on it, all else being equal. To me, its a practical question.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 1:24:00 PM

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I don't think you're immoral at all nor do I necessarily think anyone who has sex when the first meet someone is. I'm simply repeating what I have been told by men. The only thing I'm being judgemental about is the catch 22.

As CrappyDom pointed out, this is totally inconsistent with your earlier statement, "It's good to know I'm not the only one with morals." It's really difficult to change stances when the record remains for everyone to see - maybe you'd better edit it? Certainly, saying "oops - that was knee-jerk and I was wrong" isn't any kind of option.

As far as the "double standard" you're talking about - that's differing values. I don't know that I know *any* men who are repulsed if a girl has sex on a first date AND gets angry if she doesn't on the second date. (Come to think of it, I don't know that I have much respect for anyone who believes either of those "social rules". The only timetable that counts is the one that two (or more) adults agree upon 'cause that's what they want. All of the friends I have with whom this has been a topic of conversation are pretty much of the opinion that she will when she wants to, and anyone who isn't okay with that is a putz.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 1:25:02 PM

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It only puts women into a catch 22 if they care about it. The men who would do that are dumbasses and no one I need to concern myself with.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 4:49:34 PM

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there's too much of a risk of STDs in this day and age, that's why i won't do it...not without exchanging medical proof.

thats what condoms are for

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