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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:50:32 PM   
MistressTruth


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Just as a friendly public safer sex announcement, latex condoms don't keep out all nasty diseases, such as Herpes.

I've been giving and attending safer sex workshops since the age of 13. That could probably go into the "How young is too young" thread. ;-)



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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:53:53 PM   
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condoms aren't 100% affective. also, they do not protect during vaginal oral sex...not to mention not to many woman want to have a condom in their mouths

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:53:56 PM   
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Well, it's a little more complicated than that:

http://www.herpesalliance.org/news/july2001/jul2001_2.htm

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Just as a friendly public safer sex announcement, latex condoms don't keep out all nasty diseases, such as Herpes.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:57:24 PM   
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also, they do not protect during vaginal oral sex...
 
That's what flavored dental dams are for...strawberry is tasty. Though if you're in a bind, non-microwavable saran wrap works too. Pun intended.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:58:04 PM   
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I believe if both parties involed have been chatting for a while-they meet and hit it off--why not?? it is a perfect normal occurance for a man and woman--I say--go for it

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 5:58:48 PM   
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if it came in cherry, i'd be in heavne...don't like strawberries that much


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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 6:06:57 PM   
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Well, it's a little more complicated than that:

Thanks for the link, while it doesn't disprove anything I said it is a nice addendum. Kudos.

I knew folks who used condoms but still contracted the herpes, they have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Well Herpes isn't necessarily life-threatening, though it is linked to cervical cancer in women, it sure isn't a fun thing to have to endure for the rest of your life. 




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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 6:07:50 PM   
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quote:

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Just as a friendly public safer sex announcement, latex condoms don't keep out all nasty diseases, such as Herpes.

I've been giving and attending safer sex workshops since the age of 13. That could probably go into the "How young is too young" thread. ;-)




You don't have to have sex to get HSV-2. Genital herpes can be transferred to the mouth through oral sex. If someone else shares a drink with someone who's mouth had been exposed to genital herpes, that other person could get genital herpes without having any sexual contact whatsoever.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 6:20:54 PM   
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It wasn't so long ago that you didn't seem to know the first thing about herpes; now you're a big expert.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 6:24:38 PM   
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I read up on it. Now I see why the medical community says it doesn't matter which form someone has.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 8:47:40 PM   
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Sex on the first meeting should be up to the two consenting adults...  as long as there is mutal consent and both parties are adults.. if they want to have sex on the first meeting more power to them. If they dont want to have sex on the first meeting more power to them as well. its a judgement call for everyone. I myself dont see anything wrong with having or not having sex on the first meeting. I have been in both positions and  for the most part they both worked out for the best. granded there has been  some that looking back maybe I shouldnt have had sex on that first meeting but then there are a few that sex wouldnt have been that bad of athing if it would have happend. so to each their own and what ever makes them happy.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 9:51:37 PM   
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do people really jump into bed with eachother on a first meeting these days? i've never been one to do such things


Yes they do! And they should be good little boys and girls and use condoms to keep from catching cooties beforehand. Before one has sex without condoms there needs to be STD testing to make sure you do not give each other something nasty.

My Daddy and I had sex the first day we met, although it was about 4 hours after we met that we had our first sexual contact, about 6 hours until we had actual sex after he spanked me soundly.

I will never regret that day, it is up there with my most perfect days, and at the top of the list for first dates... we both call it a day full of perfect moments.... and it was not all about the sex, although that was definitely a huge part of the initial attraction. We talked for so many hours over the phone before we actually met and there was an intellectual and emotional attraction... the physical was the icing on the cake, he keeps me around for the Marx arguments....lol

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:13:55 PM   
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The day I met my Master for the first time was the day everything changed for me (yeah, I know - how dramatic).

We had spoken via phone, email, IM, text message for two months. We were developing quite a strong bond and relationship in that time.  When I met him in person, I was naked, kneeling, and waiting for him.  The people I told said I was crazy.  Maybe I was, but it felt right, and I needed to.

By morning we both knew that he owned me.  That was over two years ago and I have been growing with him ever since.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:17:06 PM   
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Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to bash anyone else. I'm just telling what I've heard men say. It is possible to have male friends who aren't friends with benefits. Many men have told me they would never consider a relationship with a woman who had sex on the first date. I've also been told in a forum that if a woman doesn't put out by the second date, she's leading the man on. Does anyone see the catch 22 here?


I had sex with my Dom the first time we physically met, been seeing each other for about 4 months since the first time we were intimate, known each other over 6 months if you include the time we talked on the phone (which was hours everyday to the tune of 300 dollar cell phone bills for two months)

We are pretty serious about each other, so I do not know what to tell you other then it is best to date men that invest a lot of time and energy into you. I would not date a man that invested his ego into how soon I put out for him and what that said about me.

If I slept with a man that did not want a relationship with me because of it I would not respect him... turn about is fair play after all. I do not respect men that sleep with a woman that really likes them just to turn around and hurt her feelings by not returning phone calls and brushing her off. I have never received that treatment, but my friends have, and men like that are fucked in the head and losers, who would want one? My favorite incident was when one of these jerkoffs asked me out on a nice date after treating my friend like shit. I asked him what would make him think I would go out with him? He claimed to have really liked me for a long time, but he had no cooth of class, if you are going to screw someone, at least talk to them the next day or I have no use for you.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:23:19 PM   
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quote:

made that comment because sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority and it's good to know I'm not. The only thing I look down on is the catch 22 men put women in. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. In deciding between the 2 evils I decided I'd rather have a reputation for leading guys on than having guys call me a tramp. I'm talking about men judging women, not me judging anyone.


I would recommend you quit worrying about what they think of you, it is much more empowering to have them wondering about what you think about them... seriously, think about it.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:27:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

The day I met my Master for the first time was the day everything changed for me (yeah, I know - how dramatic).

We had spoken via phone, email, IM, text message for two months. We were developing quite a strong bond and relationship in that time.  When I met him in person, I was naked, kneeling, and waiting for him.  The people I told said I was crazy.  Maybe I was, but it felt right, and I needed to.

By morning we both knew that he owned me.  That was over two years ago and I have been growing with him ever since.


Ain't life grand and unexpected?

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:32:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

The day I met my Master for the first time was the day everything changed for me (yeah, I know - how dramatic).

We had spoken via phone, email, IM, text message for two months. We were developing quite a strong bond and relationship in that time.  When I met him in person, I was naked, kneeling, and waiting for him.  The people I told said I was crazy.  Maybe I was, but it felt right, and I needed to.

By morning we both knew that he owned me.  That was over two years ago and I have been growing with him ever since.


Ain't life grand and unexpected?

Man, you're not kidding!


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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/27/2006 10:58:14 PM   
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When meeting a possible master for the first time is sex a must?, something that is expected?

2 scenarios- you've met online and talked a few times and have decided to meet for coffee--is sex expected? and is a sub suposed to be ready and willing for that?

Second Scenario- you've met online and have been talking for weeks/months  and He has been your online Dom for weeks even months-- is sex expected? is it a requirment here?

Both scenarios sex was not discussed prior to meeting.

I'd just like some input..i'm fairly new and would just like some general information.
Thanks Andee


I've not read the other responses to this.  I simply want to give my input on both scenarios.

1.)  NO

2.) NO

In either case if the guy EXPECTS sex on the first physical meeting, and it's not something that was discussed prior, he's a douchebag.  Full stop.  He's using BDSM as an excuse for a bootie call and nothing more.  If sex is the only type of powerplay he can think of then he needs to rethink his reasons for shite.

Again,  just my not-so-humble opinion.

If the first meeting involves you being naked on your knees and waiting on him ... well ... that's a whole other story.



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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/28/2006 12:04:02 AM   
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So I can put her on her knees and make her wait on me, but I can't fuck her?

That's not what it says in the Great Book of All Things.  You've been getting your information from a fraudulent source.

P.S. If you want a copy of the Great Book of All Things, e-mail me on the other side, but make sure you have an active Paypal account.

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If the first meeting involves you being naked on your knees and waiting on him ... well ... that's a whole other story.

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RE: Sex on First Meeting.. - 10/28/2006 3:10:12 AM   
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So I can put her on her knees and make her wait on me, but I can't fuck her?

That's not what it says in the Great Book of All Things.  You've been getting your information from a fraudulent source.

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Don't believe him.
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And I promptly paid for it, too.

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