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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:43:42 PM   
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See, Firmhand, one big difference between you and me is that I don't see myself as a representative of a group.  I'm me.  You ALWAYS respond to people who disagree with you by trying to figure out what group they belong to, and then you proceed to attack the group--instead of listening to what people say and explaining why you disagree with it.

The only thing that's changed is that since last week you've gone into siege mode.


ROFLMAO!! 


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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:45:02 PM   
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Level, I always have chocolate to share. 


*smiles at the good lady*

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:45:54 PM   
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  Any suggestions why? 


I think the Pew people already answered the question as much as it could be answered.

According to the survey, Reps tend to have more money than Dems. More cha-ching means they can afford better health care. Better health leads to more happiness. That's what I got out of it anyway.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:46:36 PM   
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I never said all conservatives are ignorant.  I said "ignorance is bliss," and the conservatives immediately went into war mode.

But I agree with you that the thread has turned into "You're ignorant because you're conservative!" "No, YOU'RE ignorant because you're liberal," and I'm out of here too.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:48:35 PM   
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And also happiness comes from a sense of accomplisment not being told that you're "worthy" or "unique" or all that "feel good" crap that they try to teach in the schools.
And I find that a lot of liberals are "repressed" due to their "belief" in political correctness. It's like a lot of them are anal-retentives.
"Oh, he wasn't a bad person because he came from the ghetto and robbed a bank and raped a woman, he just didn't have the "opportunities" that most people have."
Wrong, he WAS a bad person and he should have every bone in his body broken with a big lead pipe.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 12:51:38 PM   
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  Any suggestions why? 


I think the Pew people already answered the question as much as it could be answered.

According to the survey, Reps tend to have more money than Dems. More cha-ching means they can afford better health care. Better health leads to more happiness. That's what I got out of it anyway.

Celeste


Now, there might be something there, Celeste.
 
I don't think there is one answer to the OP, but a bunch of them.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:01:07 PM   
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I never said all conservatives are ignorant.  I said "ignorance is bliss," and the conservatives immediately went into war mode.

But I agree with you that the thread has turned into "You're ignorant because you're conservative!" "No, YOU'RE ignorant because you're liberal," and I'm out of here too.


LaM, I disagree with your analysis.

You made a condescending remark, on a thoughtful and interesting posts about social facts, inputting that conservatives are "happier" because they are ignorant.

I called you on it, and you made things worse by trying to justify yourself, and thereby exposed your beliefs. 

I simply changed the "side" in your own analysis to show you that such thinking is unhelpful, even though you are certainly welcome to your opinions.

Merc took the time to write a long, detailed and logical analysis in partial rebuttal to the "conservatives are ignorant" meme.  He didn't throw names, or use short, snappy but emotionally charged sentences to state his opinion.

It's the people on any part of the political spectrum who try to use "sound bite" answers to disagreements that aren't all that helpful.

FirmKY

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:04:45 PM   
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With so many people "Out of here," this room might actually become fun!

A seagull, a chicken, and Popeye (The character, not the poster) walk into a bar.......

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:10:36 PM   
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A seagull, a chicken, and Popeye (The character, not the poster) walk into a bar.......


Is the chicken from Popeye's?

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:11:00 PM   
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With so many people "Out of here," this room might actually become fun!

A seagull, a chicken, and Popeye (The character, not the poster) walk into a bar.......

Yours,


benji


LOL benji

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:12:20 PM   
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Is the chicken from Popeye's?

FirmKY



For the last time, I don't want Popeye's cock!

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:13:04 PM   
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  Any suggestions why? 


I think the Pew people already answered the question as much as it could be answered.

According to the survey, Reps tend to have more money than Dems. More cha-ching means they can afford better health care. Better health leads to more happiness. That's what I got out of it anyway.

Celeste


Bita, I agree with you there!
We should have a National Healthcare System in place for all American Citizens.
That way we could get all those depressed liberals on those "be happy" drugs and they can start smiling for the first time in 20 years.
It's a real Chore being around them!
(This "Darfur" thing seems to be their latest drug of choice for inducing depression.)
(I don't know what they expect (me) to do about some rat assed country 6,000 miles away.)
(I try to tell them that I don't want my money or Troops in Iraq much less "Darfur".)
(These people live in the U.S., worry about what's going on here and not in foreign countries and they'll be much happier.)
And that should include Dental as well.
I don't know why they seperate the two, Dental Health is just another part of overall health.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:24:56 PM   
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They oppose safe water, it gets in the way of corporate profits. Some do.


Glad to see your post, Level.  I wondered how the Libs were trying to protect the California water supply by introducing MTBE into our "reformulated gas" which consequently resulting in infecting over 100 water supplies reported two or more detections of the chemical.  It was the conservative fight against the EPA which finally resulted in a phase-out program, so we could stop infecting our water.  No one can really say how many private water wells were infected (many in the Sierra Foothills get their water from ground water wells on their property).

The idea of pointing all fingers at one party for all problems remains preposterous and irresponsible.  All sides need to take responsibility. 

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:32:09 PM   
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They oppose safe water, it gets in the way of corporate profits. Some do.


Glad to see your post, Level.  I wondered how the Libs were trying to protect the California water supply by introducing MTBE into our "reformulated gas" which consequently resulting in infecting over 100 water supplies reported two or more detections of the chemical.  It was the conservative fight against the EPA which finally resulted in a phase-out program, so we could stop infecting our water.  No one can really say how many private water wells were infected (many in the Sierra Foothills get their water from ground water wells on their property).

The idea of pointing all fingers at one party for all problems remains preposterous and irresponsible.  All sides need to take responsibility. 


Yes, but post something like that and the most you can expect is a mumbled "yeah, but the conservatives did...."
 
At least from some.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 1:47:54 PM   
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Is the chicken from Popeye's?

FirmKY



For the last time, I don't want Popeye's cock!

Yours,


benji


Darnit, benji ... quit stealing my punch lines! 

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 2:29:54 PM   
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Someone mentioned religion.  That's a good point.  I think,  overall, Republicans attend church more often than Democrats and according to Pew's survery:
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People who attend religious services weekly or more are happier (43% very happy) than those who attend monthly or less (31%); or seldom or never (26%).

Someone also mentioned that Republicans can afford better healthcare--thus being happier.  That is a good point, but I doubt there is a big difference in wealth.  And there is this from the survey:
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If one controls for household income, Republicans still hold a significant edge: that is, poor Republicans are happier than poor Democrats; middle-income Republicans are happier than middle-income Democrats, and rich Republicans are happier than rich Democrats.

Someone alluded to conservatives believing in personal responsibility, and the satisfaction one gets from "earning" something versus looking for a handout from the govt--i.e., the taxpayer.  There could be some truth in this theory as well.

Another one that I think others might've noticed - if they had read the report - is marriage.  I think, overall, that conservatives wed in higher percentages than liberals do.  And I saw this in the report:
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Married people (43% very happy) are a good bit happier than unmarrieds (24%) and this too has been a consistent finding over many years and many surveys.  

It's probably a combination of the above suggestions, but it still seems odd that Republicans have been happier for every survey since they started in 1972...even through the scandalous Clinton Administration and the horrifying Carter Administration.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 2:49:16 PM   
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i wish the senior Bush would take a rolled up newspaper to the back of the head of Junior Bush everytime he said something stupid.  he would have been in a coma 2 weeks after starting his presidency and we would have been spared.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 3:19:27 PM   
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shtrbg, I wouldn't call Bush a "conservative" would you?
Oh, also long term marijuana use is known to cause depression in those who use it.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 3:21:00 PM   
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Oh, now I get it.  The OP is a Canadian conservative who is explaining why his ideology makes Americans happier.

This thread would've been a lot shorter if you had just said that at the start, you know.

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RE: Why are conservatives happier than liberals? - 11/13/2006 4:02:43 PM   
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Ignorance is bliss.

 
ditto

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