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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/10/2006 9:37:13 PM   
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Viral shedding is a symptom of HSV1 as well as HSV2, so both strains can be transmitted with or without active sores. Active sores just make the risk of transmission higher. To avoid transmitting the virus to your partner's genitals, a flavored condom might be an option. But I still think most people have HSV anyway. 

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/10/2006 9:58:15 PM   
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Viral shedding is a symptom of HSV1 as well as HSV2, so both strains can be transmitted with or without active sores. Active sores just make the risk of transmission higher. To avoid transmitting the virus to your partner's genitals, a flavored condom might be an option. But I still think most people have HSV anyway. 


I was playing at not knowing much. I know enough herpes. I know you can't ever be completely safe because you can't stop herpes from spreading. I also know it's treatable, though not curable. And I know that it's a risk factor you can't do anything about. If your partner cheats on you and gets it, using condoms isn't going to help.

Sex is basically one huge gamble. There is no such thing as "safe sex" really. But the payoff is sooo nice.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/11/2006 1:21:51 AM   
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Sophia, Pixel and Poplolly - thanks for the kind comments.

Its another cold, rainy, lonely day here, so its nice to know someone appreciates me

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/11/2006 5:33:06 AM   
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*chuckles* So this is what a trolling post looks like from a male dom.  It's a wee bit different from the male sub!

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/11/2006 6:26:33 AM   
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Many good responses in this thread...
i personally consider collarme a social scene and use my discretion on what personal information i choose to reveal as i would in any other social scene. i don't like being "labeled" because people's definitions and tolerances differ. Just identifying as slave is enough to bring judgement from others who would not agree or know me well, so i personally tend to keep "my business" mine until i feel it is time to share it.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/12/2006 5:48:13 PM   
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I love Lady Ellen


Me too....wish she'd come to the states for a visit

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/12/2006 5:57:39 PM   
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DomwithHSV - Try BHT and L-lysine. Read on line there are people actually coming up HSV negative after treatment with it and it's more than likely available at your local health food store.  The BHT is an antioxidant that makes the cell membrane permeable so the amino acid L-lysine can get in to kill the virus, which is a retrovirus. Good luck on that. bigblackones

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/12/2006 6:43:42 PM   
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HSV is so prevalent.  I've known so many people who have it, although not a lover.  It's manageable, and I really doubt that it would keep me from being with someone I desired.  There are ways to work around it and protect one's partner.  I just don't see it as a big deal.


This is taken from an information website on HSV

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Other Considerations
Pregnancy

Herpes viruses can be transmitted to a newborn during vaginal delivery in mothers infected with herpes viruses, especially if the mother has active lesions in the vagina at the time of delivery. If you do have active lesions at that time, delivery by cesarean section (often called C-section) will be recommended to avoid infecting your baby.





Special Populations

Newborn baby – herpes infections contracted during delivery from the mother can lead to meningitis, herpes infection in the blood, chronic skin infection, and may even be fatal.
If your immune system is suppressed (from, for example, human immunodeficiency virus [HIV], receipt of chemotherapy for cancer, long term use of high doses of steroids, or use of medications that intentionally suppress the immune system such as following organ transplant) are more likely to suffer from complications of herpes and are more likely to have severe, frequent outbreaks.





Warnings and Precautions

If you are diagnosed with genital herpes, you should be tested for other sexually transmitted diseases like chlamydia and gonorrhea.





Prognosis and Complications

Herpes is a chronic, recurrent infection. The initial symptoms usually appear within 1 to 3 weeks of exposure to the virus and last 7 to 10 days (for oral lesions), 7 to 14 days (for genital lesions). Usually the number of outbreaks is greatest in the first year and higher for HSV-2 genital lesions than HSV-1 oral lesions. Each year after that, the number of outbreaks typically diminishes and they become progressively less severe. But, you can never completely get rid of the virus.
Complications of herpes include:
  • Herpetic keratitis – herpes infection of the eye leading to scaring within the cornea and possible blindness
  • Persistent herpes infection, without lesion-free periods
  • Herpes infection in the esophagus
  • Herpes infection of the liver which can lead to cirrhosis (liver failure)
  • Encephalitis and/or meningitis – serious brain infections
  • Lung infection
  • Eczema herpetiform – widespread herpes across the skin

As you can see...it IS more than just an occasional outbreak. It can be much much more. So why would you assume that anyone should be less concerned over their health just because it is no big deal to you?

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/12/2006 7:26:07 PM   
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Also alot of the drugs cannot be taken early in pregnancy. So if she doesn't know she is pregnant or trying to these drugs can harm the fetus.  Also, she can have an outbreak because of not taking meds.  Where I work and other places these women have C-sections if they are known to have it. If they have not had an outbreak then they may not know and a C-section is not planned. Which can further harm the fetus. So as Red said it is something to be concerned with.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 12/13/2006 2:39:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

Also alot of the drugs cannot be taken early in pregnancy. So if she doesn't know she is pregnant or trying to these drugs can harm the fetus.  Also, she can have an outbreak because of not taking meds.  Where I work and other places these women have C-sections if they are known to have it. If they have not had an outbreak then they may not know and a C-section is not planned. Which can further harm the fetus. So as Red said it is something to be concerned with.


occassionally people may actually be in the active stage and not know it...thank about it...with the blisters that i have seen on people.. I spent 4 years working at planned parent hood.. ( Im one of those red headed nurse fantasy creatures)...well honestly I cannot see any of the people that i have seen having an out break having sex for a while until the clisters heal up a bit.


I actually was tested a few years ago for every single STD that i could be tested for...someone that I was underthe impression that i was monogamous with turned out to not only was cheating on me...but he was invovled with a woman that was a professional escourt...so needless to say i paid my $350 o get checked for anything i could be checked for I was!  and I continue to be checked every year or so to keep myself aware of what i have going on in my own body. I had a brief relationship with someone that was very forth coming refagarding his herpes status.

in regard to the various herpes viruses.. there are oodles.

I do not have the type 1 o 2...not cold sores nor  sores on  my pleasre dome...but i have an ongoign problem with chronic fatigue which is relatied to the epstein barr virus which is a herpes zoster virus....i also have had shingles twice   another type of herpes virus,.. and in regard to it not really mattering if someone has HPV ...well given my medical history cancer x3 times...well honestly if i was positve it would prbably cause the virus to cause major problems...with the chemo it would trigger and exacerbation of breakouts,  I also have a unusual type of anemia and the viral  load would affect the reocvery of my symptoms ..so althogu I have been tested particulatly for the H

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/16/2007 1:24:04 PM   
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You are not alone, Sir.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/16/2007 2:15:26 PM   
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There are no HSV bdsm personal sites. None that I have found, at least.


Have you considered starting your own...or at least perhaps a yahoo or msn group that is dedicated to this?

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/16/2007 4:12:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sophia37

The new one people are freaking out over is HPV. Thats the cervical cancer causing virus. So I would suggest against coming up with a name like SubwithHPV.   It's also the SAME virus that causes those unsightly hand and foot warts !!


People are freaking out over this one cause so many have no awareness of it. Just like when AIDS/HIV came out in the early 80's.

If the NCCC would have been more active and vocal than they are, even from its inception in 1997, there wouldnt be such a scare on HPV and cervical cancer now.
 
I believe I can say with some authority ~ that the medical profession is not exactly honest and open about medical issues with patients.
HIPAA has scared the buggers out of people it seems and the MD's keep information about diagnoses from patients. (Know by experience!!)
I am an RN, all my MD's know it (and my mom's MD's).  My GYN decided NOT to tell me I had HPV thus cervical cancer.  I found out when I switched MD's cause they wouldnt give me my medical records (claiming HIPAA).   THAT IS WHEN I LEARNED THE TRUTH.  
 
If I am NOT mistaken, HSV will always be with a person, some forms of HPV are treatable. 
I had cervical cancer from HPV.  I no longer have either one.  Cyrosurgery and laser therapy removed it as well as the cancer. 
 
Getting involved with someone who has HPV vs someone who had HPV is VERY DIFFERENT than getting involved with someone who had/has/will have HSV.
 
I am NOT convinced HPV should be spoken of in the same league as HSV. 
 
FYI:    http://www.nccc-online.org/index.php


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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/16/2007 4:17:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bigblackones

DomwithHSV - Try BHT and L-lysine. Read on line there are people actually coming up HSV negative after treatment with it and it's more than likely available at your local health food store.  The BHT is an antioxidant that makes the cell membrane permeable so the amino acid L-lysine can get in to kill the virus, which is a retrovirus. Good luck on that. bigblackones


I do not know the real chemical scientific stuff about this... but I was adviced to take extra ZINC because of the manipulation of cellular changes, which are positive, after surgery esp chemo, laser and cyro surgery/therapy.
 
Anyone with more information on this?? 

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/28/2007 12:19:07 PM   
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Well as one who has HSV it is hard for people to understand about dealing with it. You got it and its an emotional rollercoaster for sure. Statistics shows alot of people carry it and arent even aware they have it because it is not a routine test in STD testing it is something which has to be asked about and as alot of people who have it are asymptomatic meaning they have no outbreaks they wouldn't even know they had it. It creates issues for me because although I don't want Master to catch it, its hard to see him not using protection with others as he must with me. I'm told I am jealous because of this and yes it is because he can't touch me in the same way. I know it is for his pleasure that he doesn't use condoms and does with me and I must deal with the issues that I have that this isn't about my pleasure but his. I'm told I think selfishly and its because of the abusive con dom relationship I just got away from who gave it to me and lied about others he brought it. So right now alot of issues arise that come into play not only from the HSV but the bad relationship that have created the what about me attitude. Although I am submissive I became his whith his knowledge that I have no clue to how to be a slave. He tells me because my focus is not on him thats why. So we must travel on with the world looking at us sometimes as lepers because we have something we didnt ask for and never would have if we had known. I for one find it hard to let people know cause they run away screaming lol well almost.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/28/2007 12:29:14 PM   
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All I can say is, give it another few years and I'm sure there will be 10 or 12 new diseases that are sexually contagious and we can all walk around in full-body condoms lol

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/28/2007 12:41:32 PM   
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Do a google search for oil of oregano and it's use for HSV.  It may be something you will want to try.  I have it on good authority that it does work though it is slow.  It may take a couple of years of one or two doses each day (and it is VERY bitter) but it does seem to work.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/29/2007 11:56:53 AM   
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Sorry to be so ignorant, what is HSV?


p.s. Step, love that particular saying. There are more slinkies in the world than we wish to admit!

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 4/29/2007 3:31:58 PM   
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Herpes Simplex Virus

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Most people have herpes simplex - 10/24/2007 5:52:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

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There are no HSV bdsm personal sites. None that I have found, at least.


Have you considered starting your own...or at least perhaps a yahoo or msn group that is dedicated to this?


Statistically, most web sites will have more HSV infected people than not, including this one! On the other hand, it might be more useful to start one for the small minority of people without HSV. I quote http://www.herpes.org.uk/ (a non-profit organisation...well, would you trust any site selling miracle cures????)

"Most people have herpes simplex - 70% have facial herpes (cold sores) and 10% have genital herpes in the UK. These figures are even higher in other countries including the USA and the developing world."

PS Most new cases of genital herpes are caused by cold sores (HSV1)



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