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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 2:45:41 PM   
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Send the wankers my way... cuz I'm so nice and sweet and innocent and all.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 2:46:45 PM   
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Send the wankers my way... cuz I'm so nice and sweet and innocent and all.

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LOL  Careful what you offer...  i'll certainly take you up on that!   

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 2:49:34 PM   
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Being honest is a good policy towards friends and intimate partners. Why not explain the facts about HSV 1 and VSV 2 to these people whom you refer to as uneducated? Granted we who are not that knowledgeable regarding herpes should be as tolerant as possible, yet everyone and I do mean everyone who is afflicted with herpes must be tolerant of us who are not as educated regarding this virus. Frankly, this person (points at myself) does not give a damn if a friend of mine is afflicted with HSV, my friendship is not based upon their health status but upon them as a whoile person. This is my 2 cents worth for what good it may do.


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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 2:52:26 PM   
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Understood and accepted, Cali...I did not pay attention to the date of the forum, as I only saw a discussion I wished to participate in.  And believe me, I spent alot of time before changing my profile, thinking on whether or not it would be a good idea to post the info.
   Personally, I think honesty and responsibility trump social graces on most days, so I put the info first in order to not waste people's time.  Before I changed the profile, I met a few people here and had nice conversations with them (after the diagnosis) and later told them...it wasn't a pretty situation in any of the cases.  Kind of like the reception my writing here has received.
   And about the "drooling sex fiend" reference, and misconception by the same person that I am feeling sorry for myself...I don't think that was the intention of anything I wrote...it is not self-pity for someone to tell of occurances (good or bad).  I told a tale of what happened to me.  If that is calling for pity or whining, then you need (can't believe I am talking like Dr. Phil) sensitivity training; because if the person who said such actually does work in teaching others how to administer medical assistance of any type, I will happily avoid injury or sickness in their state due to the bedside manner of whomever they are imparting their "wisdom" to.
   Thank you Cali, for noticing the difference.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 2:58:15 PM   
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Understood and accepted, Cali...I did not pay attention to the date of the forum, as I only saw a discussion I wished to participate in.  And believe me, I spent alot of time before changing my profile, thinking on whether or not it would be a good idea to post the info.
   Personally, I think honesty and responsibility trump social graces on most days, so I put the info first in order to not waste people's time.  Before I changed the profile, I met a few people here and had nice conversations with them (after the diagnosis) and later told them...it wasn't a pretty situation in any of the cases.  Kind of like the reception my writing here has received.
   And about the "drooling sex fiend" reference, and misconception by the same person that I am feeling sorry for myself...I don't think that was the intention of anything I wrote...it is not self-pity for someone to tell of occurances (good or bad).  I told a tale of what happened to me.  If that is calling for pity or whining, then you need (can't believe I am talking like Dr. Phil) sensitivity training; because if the person who said such actually does work in teaching others how to administer medical assistance of any type, I will happily avoid injury or sickness in their state due to the bedside manner of whomever they are imparting their "wisdom" to.
   Thank you Cali, for noticing the difference.


I never said I was a doctor I teach and lecture on infectious disease and pathenogens along with anatomy. I am a massage therapist.My most recent client had an outbreak which I dont consider a big deal. hes a wonderful and sucessful person. my post was quite nice and I never called you a drooling sex fiend. When i talked of sex fiends at all, I spoke as if I was talking to a typical guy. I guess because you are a man I should have not used metaphor and said, "dont act like a typical guy thats out for only sex". But I can see that you are on the defensive

For the record, I was the one that pointed out to evryone that you were not the original OP. You could be thanking me not insulting me.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 3:05:00 PM   
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BULLSHIT!!!  uh, i'm mean BULLSHIT!!! Dang it, so anyway i BULLSHIT!!!!!!

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 3:32:03 PM   
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Being honest is a good policy towards friends and intimate partners. Why not explain the facts about HSV 1 and VSV 2 to these people whom you refer to as uneducated? Granted we who are not that knowledgeable regarding herpes should be as tolerant as possible, yet everyone and I do mean everyone who is afflicted with herpes must be tolerant of us who are not as educated regarding this virus. Frankly, this person (points at myself) does not give a damn if a friend of mine is afflicted with HSV, my friendship is not based upon their health status but upon them as a whoile person. This is my 2 cents worth for what good it may do.




Now THAT is the kind of reply to my post that I expected from the beginning...not a two day argument over b.s..  Kudos to you, bear, for the show of intellect and humility.
   At least you READ what I wrote and took it for what it was, rather than inferring something it wasn't.  Thank you.
   And luscious, I don't believe I ever wrote the word "doctor" in reference to your profession--see the above paragraph; I do thank you for pointing out the misidentification, and yes, people do tend to get defensive when (if you go back and read) people act like they are the end-all-be-all of knowledge on a personal subject.
   I wrote no manifesto, only of experiences; and criticism of said experiences led to all of this.  B.S., yes...I think this went too far.  Excepting the few (and you know who you are) who acted with some degree of humanity to the subject, the rest I have only pity for. 

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 3:46:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Domhsv

quote:

ORIGINAL: beargonewild

Being honest is a good policy towards friends and intimate partners. Why not explain the facts about HSV 1 and VSV 2 to these people whom you refer to as uneducated? Granted we who are not that knowledgeable regarding herpes should be as tolerant as possible, yet everyone and I do mean everyone who is afflicted with herpes must be tolerant of us who are not as educated regarding this virus. Frankly, this person (points at myself) does not give a damn if a friend of mine is afflicted with HSV, my friendship is not based upon their health status but upon them as a whoile person. This is my 2 cents worth for what good it may do.




Now THAT is the kind of reply to my post that I expected from the beginning...not a two day argument over b.s..  Kudos to you, bear, for the show of intellect and humility.
   At least you READ what I wrote and took it for what it was, rather than inferring something it wasn't.  Thank you.
   And luscious, I don't believe I ever wrote the word "doctor" in reference to your profession--see the above paragraph; I do thank you for pointing out the misidentification, and yes, people do tend to get defensive when (if you go back and read) people act like they are the end-all-be-all of knowledge on a personal subject.
   I wrote no manifesto, only of experiences; and criticism of said experiences led to all of this.  B.S., yes...I think this went too far.  Excepting the few (and you know who you are) who acted with some degree of humanity to the subject, the rest I have only pity for. 



Why dont you point out to me how what I said was me acting like a no it all. I was trying to point out to you that this is not that big of a deal in the disease category, We all have a miriad of viruses in us including herpes. My generation all got chicken pox and both my mother and my sister got herpes zoster and my nephew has herpes simplex 1. I do have knowledge through researching and personal knowlege. i was merely trying to give advice for a way to handle it in a rational way befitting the issue. Instead of appreciating what I say whether you agree or not, you critcize. Alot of your discontent is not hearing what you want, and interpreting words which have no inflection or shown emotion into the worst possible way based on your own defensive projection?

this is what works best here. keep posting, regardless of whether you are happy with the people or not. What you will find with this lot of people is they will continue to exchange with you, telling you their opinion and you may even get snippy and vice versa. but they will continue to be here and they will not hold on to animosity and you will forge relationships and hopefully we can learn who you are and your opinions on a number of subjects. i am hoping that you have way more to offer and contribute in way of wisdom, personality and humor.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 4:18:03 PM   
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Again, and I will type slowly so you can understand...go back a read what you wrote and participated in...it was not presented in a manner one could have taken appreciatively, and if you cannot see that, well...enough said.  I did not sign up for you or anyone to manage my profile or tell me how to better represent myself in it...I stated something, talked about how it has been received, and the bs started.  And as far as forging relationships...I think the old yarn about first impressions is applicable here, as from first impressions, I am not at all impressed and I am sure others feel the same according to the messages I have since received in my mail.  Some in this forum have been constructive, most have been presumptuous.  But as I see it now, there is no talking to those aforementioned "most."  Anything someone says is kindling to the fire.  Also, I have much to offer, though you will never see it through your continual blindness to your own words and actions, and the insistance on adding your two cents when someone keeps telling you you have been offensive.  Go back and point these occurences out to you?  LOL...I am pretty sure if you read objectively, you will find exactly what I am talking about.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 4:45:13 PM   
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Again, and I will type slowly so you can understand...go back a read what you wrote and participated in...it was not presented in a manner one could have taken appreciatively, and if you cannot see that, well...enough said.  I did not sign up for you or anyone to manage my profile or tell me how to better represent myself in it...I stated something, talked about how it has been received, and the bs started.  And as far as forging relationships...I think the old yarn about first impressions is applicable here, as from first impressions, I am not at all impressed and I am sure others feel the same according to the messages I have since received in my mail.  Some in this forum have been constructive, most have been presumptuous.  But as I see it now, there is no talking to those aforementioned "most."  Anything someone says is kindling to the fire.  Also, I have much to offer, though you will never see it through your continual blindness to your own words and actions, and the insistance on adding your two cents when someone keeps telling you you have been offensive.  Go back and point these occurences out to you?  LOL...I am pretty sure if you read objectively, you will find exactly what I am talking about.


Intresting that I asked you to specifically point out what I said, and you couldnt.
No.I have and its you that need to go back and read my posts. I'm pretty sure if you read what I said objectively, you will find exactly what I am talking about.

"Again, and I will type slowly so you can understand"

This is you being inoffensive and nice? I never insulted your intelligence.

What will be more telling is what you do from here. Are you coming to the forums to complain? Your post did start out a bit presumtuous and sactimonius. Pretty much called everyone here a liar because no one has a banner on their profile saying"I have HSV" My friend you invited these comments. granted some were unwarranted as they thought you were this other fellow who wined in 2006 whos name is DOMEITHHSV, he is 45 and lives in new york. Funny how you forgave one snarky person and yet for some odd reason you deem me offensive. But here I am giving you my time and energy in order for you to maybe see another point of view. If you dont fine. I can accept that. I dont need your approval of me and truly I wish you only happiness and truly worry that the way you ar going about things is possibly getting in your way. I would hate to see someone complain about not getting a fair shake when really deep down they have a wall up because of their own fear of imtimacy. This isnt you? you are ready for love and want it?

Fine open your heart. Start a board asking is there anyone here that could love a guy with a great personality, who fit, funny and giving and has one minor issue with health. Forge relationship first without trying for anything but sharing yourself in a positive way witht he world.

I dont think you would be disappointed with the results.

My question though are you here to keep posting and participate with people? Or were you just here looking for a support grup or validation and then gone never to talk to all these people again? So are you going to be part of a community and share moreor did you get the validation you sought that the world hates you???

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 4:57:27 PM   
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My question though are you here to keep posting and participate with people? Or were you just here looking for a support grup or validation and then gone never to talk to all these people again? So are you going to be part of a community and share moreor did you get the validation you sought that the world hates you???


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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:07:22 PM   
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Would it be inappropriate on this thread to suggest we all kiss and make up now?

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:10:02 PM   
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You know... I just don't know.

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:21:10 PM   
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Ok, yet again to prove the point that you cannot see beyond what you yourself say, and to show that you are unable to let it go as others have...I will answer your questions, quandries and assumptions in order, then at the end will make my final statement on this thread, saying no more about it...can't say the same, can you, as I am sure there is more you would like to pick at...
   Not that I couldn't point them out...I won't waste my time.
   You could have simply said, "I did this..." rather than submit suggestions and other comments that were basically telling me I am failing for not being the way you think others should be.
   If you cannot read something "as is" without reading something into it, you prove your own inability to deal with whatever I have said, none of which, by the way was as you would label it.
   Yes, I guess I did invite it when I expected a sharing of experiences and knowledge...stupid me...bad me.  And I don't think it matters who anyone thought I was, as the reception was what it was.
   I forgave one person because they said their peace and let it go...a concept that seem lost on you, and as I am sure you will reply to this as well, point will be proven.  If not, then I apologize for this paragraph.
   You are contiuously here (again, as has been confirmed by half-a-dozen messages in my box) to point out your views as if any other is wrong, and in questioning your views, more arguement is sparked.
   When you get your masters in psychology as I have, come talk to me about walls going up and fear of intimacy...the only fears I have are having to go through life with someone who cannot stop the bickering...as you have shown.
   And as clearly stated, the only disappointments I have are the unsolicited messages I mentioned in my first post that were insulting, and your continuous need to prove yourself right.
  I never implied in any way a paranoia that the world hates me...on the contrary, I came to the forum to talk about my experiences with those who might understand and who may have had similar experiences themselves...not to start an argument with you and your feel-good passive aggression.

I am here for the long haul, and have been here for two years, both with my partner and later (now) without.  If great friendships (re)evolve, so be it...if it is only to continuously read how you could/have/will deal with such things so much better than I...well, I need the comic relief.  That said, I am inviting you with all sincerity to DROP IT and notice that you and I are pretty much at odds in our views of how you have handled this and interpreted what I have said.  And insomuch, as you said, "What will be more telling is what you do from here."  I doubt you can let it go...so in earnest...prove me wrong!
  
  

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:32:15 PM   
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Would it be inappropriate on this thread to suggest we all kiss and make up now?

Cali



OOOh OOh. I'm first in line to kiss Cali!!!

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:33:32 PM   
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"SMOOOOOOOOOOOCH,"  there's my kiss, but I don't wear make-up...lol

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 5:36:23 PM   
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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 6:10:12 PM   
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Oh dear Lord.  Has this thread been resurrected again.
Die thread.  Die!

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 6:14:18 PM   
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Aileen, pass me the popcorn, thanks in advance....

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RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) - 1/23/2008 6:18:41 PM   
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Aileen, pass me the popcorn, thanks in advance....


I have tequila, margarita mix, and salt.....goes well with popcorn...


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