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LaTigresse -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 6:33:37 AM)

Nothing. It's a piece of leather, metal, or combination thereof. It is only when infused with a meaning between two or more people that it has any value beyond that.

From what I have seen, they are given and accepted far too frequently with far too little forsight. Much like wedding bands. "I am going to give this to you/accept this from you, because you are my everything, till death do us part/or I realize 6 months from now I didn't have a clue........."



onestandingstill -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 9:37:11 AM)

To me a collar is a sign of ownership and a little piece of the Master that is always with me from the one who put it there.
suzanne



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 10:28:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
From what I have seen, they are given and accepted far too frequently with far too little forsight. Much like wedding bands. "I am going to give this to you/accept this from you, because you are my everything, till death do us part/or I realize 6 months from now I didn't have a clue........."



I think in today's society, 6 months qualifies as a long term relationship! [:D]  [;)]



behindmirrors -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 11:35:28 AM)

To us, a collar is much like a wedding ring- and both of us consider those to be symbolic representations of something deeper- a husband and wife, till death do us part; and a collar being symbolic of ownership and committment to each other in a power exchange relationship. It's not the collar or the ring that mean something, because they are just things- it's what weight we give them, and what they symbolize to the people involved, that makes a difference- and each person in a relationship makes their own distinction on what that is, hopefully one that agrees witht the other as well.

I don't have either yet, but I'm satisfied to wait until both he and I are absolutely sure that we're ready.

And, well- being lead on a leash the day he does collar me, well...yes, please! Just because it's a symbolic object does not mean it's also got to be impractical for use, haha!

behindmirrors.



slavejali -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 11:49:06 AM)

When Master first came, the very first night he put his collar on my neck, it felt very special as I had built the significance of it up n my mind over the months we did chatting. It had been something I was looking forward to...however...

About 9 months after we came together real time, he pushed a really hard limit of mine and had my nipples pierced..the impact of me submitting to that was really profound to me...and I think to this day, in my mind and in regards to my emotional attachment to a "thing" that represents my slavery to Master and his ownership of me...I would have to say it is my nipple rings.

So true what people are saying, its not the object itself that has meaning...but what meaning we give to them.



ownedgirlie -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 11:54:11 AM)

Jali your post reminded me of something I can relate to. 

Master owned me for 5 months and knew me for 7 months before putting his collar on me.  To me, the collar was a symbol of his commitment to our dynamic together.  It was also symbolic of his acceptance of me - something no one else had been able to truly m ake me feel.

However, 9 months later he pushed what was always a "hard limit" of mine - he had his insignia tattoo'd on me.  I can understand the profound impact you are speaking of.  Thank you for mentioning yours.



reverendtorres -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 12:10:15 PM)

Just a piece of decorative attire to me.



impetuousone -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 1:36:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Nothing. It's a piece of leather, metal, or combination thereof. It is only when infused with a meaning between two or more people that it has any value beyond that.

From what I have seen, they are given and accepted far too frequently with far too little forsight. Much like wedding bands. "I am going to give this to you/accept this from you, because you are my everything, till death do us part/or I realize 6 months from now I didn't have a clue........."



Oh!  No! No! LaTigresse, to say "I realize 6 months from now I didn't have a clue......." implies taking responsibility for one's actions!  That type would blame it on the dominant, of course!!!

All fun aside...You are right, it is the committment between the people involved that gives it meaning.



Littlepita -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 1:55:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Nothing. It's a piece of leather, metal, or combination thereof. It is only when infused with a meaning between two or more people that it has any value beyond that.

From what I have seen, they are given and accepted far too frequently with far too little forsight. Much like wedding bands. "I am going to give this to you/accept this from you, because you are my everything, till death do us part/or I realize 6 months from now I didn't have a clue........."



I do love the way you phrase things!

I received my first collar last March when I first moved in with my Dom. It's a collar that was meant to be temporary and worn for at least one year so that we would have a very good understanding of who we were together and what we wanted for our future.

The new collar that is completely unique is being designed and I will have it put around my neck this summer in our collaring ceremony. This ceremony for us will be as important and as meaningful as any wedding.

I do have a wonderful black leather collar made from His old belt and a nice soft black collar with a big O-ring in front of both so that he can lead me around with the leash if he so desires. [;)]



domiguy -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 2:29:10 PM)

The collar means different things to different people...to me it means you are not that creative...and are just following the herd...whatever the "special" meaning you bestow on such a restraint.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.



Rumtiger -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 4:29:44 PM)

Tigers dont wear collars..[:)]



ardelle -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/6/2007 11:02:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: simplewhispers

I feel kinda silly ,I thought the collar was a symbol of love,much like a ring,however someone said o no the Master actually leads you around with it , well who wants that? Not me ....

Greetings
 
for many a collar does indeed symbolize the love that is between those involved. For others, it is a symbol of ownership. It greatly depends on what you, as an individual, decide to place upon it.
 
I wish you well



amlonging -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/7/2007 6:33:31 AM)

  I recently wrote ....

Collar. An outward sign of who someone belongs to is not a sign of humility, it is bragging rights. Note all the dog collars and such that owned girls wear. But in the very heart of them, would something change if that dog collar or chain was removed?
Many yes. I have never been "collared." The outward symbol is useless for I know to whom I belong is stronger than something about my neck.

Edited to say... this is MY opinion



julietsierra -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/7/2007 6:49:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amlonging

 The outward symbol is useless for I know to whom I belong is stronger than something about my neck.



My collar is not bragging rights because I can't wear it everywhere. That physical collar (which I no longer have - it was in my car when the car was stolen) was definitely an outward symbol of something felt inward. That inward feeling didn't end when the car/collar was stolen. What I feel inside about my ownership is stronger and deeper than any collar can demonstrate. And to that end, I agree with you.

However, while I know who I am and who I belong to, with or without a collar, it was also an announcement to others that I was not available. While I can say all I need to say to someone hitting on me, because of the kind of person I am, I prefer not having to say anything at all. In this manner, my collar was definitely a benefit.

But more importantly, and I should say MOST importantly - it was a talisman that I could hold, wear and be with when he couldn't be with me. The collar itself was rather wide around my neck and when nights came that I NEEDED him and he couldn't be here, that wide band was a reminder all night long that he was right here with me in my heart - even if he couldn't be here physically.

Now I know that everyone else out there is just oh-so well adjusted that they NEVER have days and nights like that, but I do. And I'm not ashamed of those days and nights. I can chart them like clockwork on my calendar. They simply are what they are.

When my mother gave me a pair of earrings, I wore them constantly and when stressed, I'd kind of touch them and feel calmer. When I was married, and was missing my husband because he was out of town or whatever, I'd feel the back of my ring with my thumb and be calmer. Now that I'm no longer married and am a slave in a M/s relationship, I would hold the D-ring of my collar as I fell asleep and have the same reaction.

It's not bragging rights. And having a physical collar or not is no indication of whether our relationship is strong or not. It's simply connectivity when other things in my life are intruding. And no, teddybears don't work in the same way for me.

juliet



bearincuffs -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/7/2007 10:18:48 AM)

To me, a coller would have several meanings. It is a symobol of Master's affection and bond He has for me, a physical symbol of His ownership and control i surrendered to Him willingly. And to a great extent, a clear statement saying i am owned by Master.
 
 



Celeste43 -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/7/2007 10:23:21 AM)

He has been known to attach a leash to my play collar which is leather, but he wouldn't try leading me by the necklace I normally wear as the chain has already snapped once.

Basically it means what the two of you decide it means. Just make sure you both have the same agreement in place.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/7/2007 4:52:40 PM)

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onestandingstill -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/8/2007 8:47:39 AM)

Hello Again,
I just read this in Dom's 360 page that is a friend of mine.
He just collered his slave.
I thought this was relavant tothis conversation so I reposted it here.
suzanne
This collar lends to you, My protection,
My affection and My love.
You will always wear this in My presence.
And when you are alone,
and away from me, all you need do is touch it
and you will know the depth of our bond and
the high place you hold in My heart.
know that you are now mine to do with as I please.
Know that you can refuse me no wish.
Know that I will challenge your commitment to this.
I will test your discipline and challenge you to go further
than you have fantasized before.
And also know that in this you will have Me as your
own to take pleasure in your surrender.
That I in turn will refuse you nothing within our bond

This is my sub/slave whom I love. I am her teacher,
her care taker, her protector, she is my lover and my pet. I am responsible for her.
This is my sub/slave in whom I have placed my trust and faith in. Who honors
me by wearing my collar.



SusanofO -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/8/2007 9:00:42 AM)

My ex-Dominant didn't really buy into the whole collar thing, and thought it was kind  of silly. That didn't bother me, and we still had what I consider to be a "significant" bdsm relationship. I think having, or giving, a collar means what other people want it to mean, as far as significance. It would not bother me if someone in my future didn't have a thing for collars, and didn't think they meant much, or wasn't into them. If they did, that's fine, too.

I don't care, really. It's the actual relationship that matters to me - the meaning of which is there (to me), with or without a piece of clothing or jewelry - provided the other person is "on that same page" as well, of course. I suppose it's nice to have a little reminder of them to wear (whatever that would be), but it wouldn't make or break my out-look on the significance of the relationship, I don't think.

- Susan



aliljaded1 -> RE: I want to know what the collar is to you (1/8/2007 9:25:05 AM)

Besides the obvious ( ownership, ect).  It makes me feel "safe" when Im not w/ Him. Usually in situations where I feel uncomfortable or anxious.



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