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RE: Long distance punishment ideas. - 6/6/2008 7:29:56 PM

JohnWarren

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Thank you for your input liltxsubby but did you read the whole thread or just the first post?

I read the entire thread, not just the first post. I would not have known about he rice suggestion otherwise. Sorry if I expanded too much information and you only wanted punishment ideas and not insight on why this has happened, I thought having another sub's perspective might help you prevent this in the future.

Sadly, I'm seeing two possibilities and both are depressing as hell.

One, we may have someone who probably starved his goldfish and had to let his mother train his puppy because he was "too busy." If someone is the most important person in the world, one does not ignore her for several weeks. Having a slave is not like having a puppy or a girl friend, it is a major commitment of the soul. Someone is giving over control and having that kind of faith deserves more than a pair of loosely hanging reins.

Two, we have someone lacking even the basic knowledge of algia who wants wank material.

His constant rejection of offers of help for the root cause of his presumed difficulty does not yield the promise of a happy outcome.

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RE: Long distance punishment ideas. - 6/6/2008 7:33:24 PM

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I agree John. If you want that much from another person in this sort of a discipline-the one requiring it needs to have the most.. And that includes direction, follow through, and clarity of expectation and reward.

Masters connot, by the very definition of mastery-be flakes.

If someone obviously does not have it together-they are not worth submitting to-it's a waste of time and energy.

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RE: Long distance punishment ideas. - 6/6/2008 7:54:01 PM

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One must be careful of the lines we draw in the sand, for the more we draw, the more cautious we must walk, That being said, when you give a command, it must be followed, if it isn't, then there are consequences. And soon the spiders web is woven. And soon to the true colors of the bonds are revealed to both of you. Are you foolish to think that subs dont test the waters, time is not our friend, and neither is neglect. If you dont have time to devote to your sub, then make it, if you cant, then perhaps you need to reevaluate your responcibilities as a Dom. If she cant fulfill her position unto your rules, then perhaps she needs to clarify within herself where she is going.

There is nothing wrong in seeking the dream, its only wrong to chase an illusion.

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RE: Long distance punishment ideas. - 6/9/2008 3:06:51 AM

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Punishment can be used in such a way as to bring you closer together or it can push you apart. For whatever reason, the slave wasn't very attuned to her Master. I have to ask if the best way to fix that is to cast around for ideas on things to do to her. Bringing herself to the brink sexually but not cumming for 50 days and some additional things like kneeling on rice or kittylitter...I don't mean to be rude but masterful control is not the message reacting like that gives. The 50 days is very un-enforcable and also very difficult to do(a little realism here) so you're giving her an enormous temptation to fail one way or another. Kneeling on rice more than a short time is difficult for many people, almost impossible for some. If you told her to do these things without an intimate knowledge of her limits in both areas, shame on you. Set up to fail, a person withdraws in subtle ways and becomes manipulative and bad behavior patterns are set in place. I think the consensus opinion that she was wanting your attention, testing limits and needing to feel master's hand was correct. And she pretty much got her way; now she has master paying attention and jumping through all kinds of hoops to give her a lesson.

For me the most effective punishment would be for Her to see right through me, to know me with that degree of intimacy down to my core and be disappointed with me. Physical punishment would then be a way of penitence, a mercy of atonement and cleansing tears that might or might not be granted.

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