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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

Personally, I'm uncomfortable just reading it... but it's a case of "whatever floats your boat". If that's what does, more power to you.

Jewel

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ORIGINAL: ginger21

i'm an African-American slave, owned by a white Master. i absolutely love verbal humiliation- it turns me on like no other. But there's one word so vile and downright humiliating it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".

i've asked my Master to call me a nigger before and He said He'd consider it, which is all i can ask for. He did use it once, but only once. i'd love to hear Him say it again (He's got a southern drawl and when He says it, it sounds perfect!), but should i ask Him to again or should i assume that's He's uncomfortable with the word and let it slide?

Also, is this a common problem for white master, black slave relationships? i can't be the only black young lady that creams when she's called a "an uppity nigger whore"! ^_^

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

Personally, I'm uncomfortable just reading it... but it's a case of "whatever floats your boat". If that's what does, more power to you.

Jewel

i'm new so maybe i shouldn't be responding to this... but... i couldn't pass this by...
i'm half black and half white... my mother is white.. father black....
And.... like ShiftedJewel i felt instantly uncomfortable just reading that......

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ORIGINAL: ginger21

i'm an African-American slave, owned by a white Master. i absolutely love verbal humiliation- it turns me on like no other. But there's one word so vile and downright humiliating it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".

i've asked my Master to call me a nigger before and He said He'd consider it, which is all i can ask for. He did use it once, but only once. i'd love to hear Him say it again (He's got a southern drawl and when He says it, it sounds perfect!), but should i ask Him to again or should i assume that's He's uncomfortable with the word and let it slide?

Also, is this a common problem for white master, black slave relationships? i can't be the only black young lady that creams when she's called a "an uppity nigger whore"! ^_^

Can i ask you something? .... maybe i shouldn't.. i know it's none of my business... and maybe it's against the etiquette of this Forum... but....

did you ever experience racism when you were growing up? i mean.... when you were in elementary school? middle school? high school? college? did you ever experience racism?

Would some stranger calling you a "nigger" turn you on in any way...? Like if some white man in a mall walked over to you and said: "Get out of this store, nigger!" or "We don't let niggers in our store." would that do something for you? or would it hurt your feelings (in a bad way) in that context? or make you angry?

...is it only a turn on if it's someone you love...?

i dunno. Feel free not to answer me. ~ sorry if i'm being offensive by asking...

i'm not saying i think it's wrong that you like to be called that (as i like a little humilation too)... ~ i just don't understand... and... i guess i'm trying to.............

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ORIGINAL: Kiaban

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

Personally, I'm uncomfortable just reading it... but it's a case of "whatever floats your boat". If that's what does, more power to you.

Jewel

i'm new so maybe i shouldn't be responding to this... but... i couldn't pass this by...
i'm half black and half white... my mother is white.. father black....
And.... like ShiftedJewel i felt instantly uncomfortable just reading that......

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ORIGINAL: ginger21

i'm an African-American slave, owned by a white Master. i absolutely love verbal humiliation- it turns me on like no other. But there's one word so vile and downright humiliating it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".

i've asked my Master to call me a nigger before and He said He'd consider it, which is all i can ask for. He did use it once, but only once. i'd love to hear Him say it again (He's got a southern drawl and when He says it, it sounds perfect!), but should i ask Him to again or should i assume that's He's uncomfortable with the word and let it slide?

Also, is this a common problem for white master, black slave relationships? i can't be the only black young lady that creams when she's called a "an uppity nigger whore"! ^_^

Can i ask you something? .... maybe i shouldn't.. i know it's none of my business... and maybe it's against the etiquette of this Forum... but....

did you ever experience racism when you were growing up? i mean.... when you were in elementary school? middle school? high school? college? did you ever experience racism?

Would some stranger calling you a "nigger" turn you on in any way...? Like if some white man in a mall walked over to you and said: "Get out of this store, nigger!" or "We don't let niggers in our store." would that do something for you? or would it hurt your feelings (in a bad way) in that context? or make you angry?

...is it only a turn on if it's someone you love...?

i dunno. Feel free not to answer me. ~ sorry if i'm being offensive by asking...

i'm not saying i think it's wrong that you like to be called that (as i like a little humilation too)... ~ i just don't understand... and... i guess i'm trying to.............

I wont presume to answer for the person you wrote this to, but perhaps will offer this.
Humiliation is again by definition something that in a general or vanilla context would be offensive, perhaps even highly offensive.
Concider the use of terms like "Cunt and whore" often used in bdsm type play, and is a real turn on for many, now the same person that can be turned on by that could be outraged if called that while simply walking down the street.
If you try to define and accept any type of humiliation play verbal or physical by what is accepted in "every day vanilla life" you will never be able to wrap your mind around it.

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll
Can i ask you something? .... maybe i shouldn't.. i know it's none of my business... and maybe it's against the etiquette of this Forum... but....

did you ever experience racism when you were growing up? i mean.... when you were in elementary school? middle school? high school? college? did you ever experience racism?

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ORIGINAL: Kiaban

I wont presume to answer for the person you wrote this to, but perhaps will offer this.
Humiliation is again by definition something that in a general or vanilla context would be offensive, perhaps even highly offensive.
Concider the use of terms like "Cunt and whore" often used in bdsm type play, and is a real turn on for many, now the same person that can be turned on by that could be outraged if called that while simply walking down the street.
If you try to define and accept any type of humiliation play verbal or physical by what is accepted in "every day vanilla life" you will never be able to wrap your mind around it.

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ORIGINAL: Lepidoptera

Exactly. Not to talk for her, but she probably likes it BECAUSE it's so horrible in a vanilla context. If anyone where to call me a "whore" in the vanilla world, they'd probably end up with a black eye- but in play it's a complete turn on- sort of like how I would NEVER want to be raped, but I enjoy play rape.

It all depends on how much you like humiliation. Some things might be going too far for some people, and those same things might be amazing for another.

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ORIGINAL: Raphael

I also cannot answer for ginger, but I've got to say... I like to say there are no stupid questions, but that one is making me rethink that.

She's black. She lives in the US. Do you think it's even conceivably, vaguely, wildly possible that the answer is anything but yes?

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll

Can i ask you something? .... maybe i shouldn't.. i know it's none of my business... and maybe it's against the etiquette of this Forum... but....

did you ever experience racism when you were growing up? i mean.... when you were in elementary school? middle school? high school? college? did you ever experience racism?

Would some stranger calling you a "nigger" turn you on in any way...? Like if some white man in a mall walked over to you and said: "Get out of this store, nigger!" or "We don't let niggers in our store." would that do something for you? or would it hurt your feelings (in a bad way) in that context? or make you angry?

...is it only a turn on if it's someone you love...?

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ORIGINAL: Master609

My slave asked Me to call her a "nigger" and I must say I was very uncomfortable with the idea at first. First of all I'm from an area in South Texas were I learned prejudice because of My surroundings, but I never learned to be prejudiced. I took a black girl to My senior prom in High School and tought Myself at a young age not to see a difference in people. Some of My best friends are black and if they new I was calling My black slave a "nigger" we wouldn't be friends anymore; at least I don't think they would feel the same way about our friendship. So My slave "ginger21" has convinced Me that calling her a "nigger" is OK because it's what raelly gets her hot and I like to make the bitch hot; so why not?!

But I could never do it in public and I will never feel totally comfortable with the idea, but it makes My slave happy. Ya gotta make 'em happy now and then.

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ORIGINAL: ginger21

First, I appreciate all the people that responded for me. They were all correct.

Of course I've experienced racism in America and like you've said, it's never been anything "overt"...I grew up in a predominately white neighborhood, but went to pretty racially diverse schools. I've been followed in stores and crap like that and I know it's because of my race.

So I find it utterly ridiculous that you would ask me if I'd get wet if some asshole walked up to me and said "Get outta my store, nigger!"...of course I'd be angry. Who wouldn't be?

The only reason it is a turn is because it is humiliating. And like Kiaban said, any type of humiliation play, particulary racial, would be unacceptable in the vanilla world. The only person I want humiliating me in this manner is my Master.

BTW, what Raphael said isn't harsh, it's true. Get off it.

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll

sorry. i'll remember not to question people directly on this forum. i'm inexperienced... and thought questions were a good way to learn and understand. ...as i said.. i wasn't trying to be offensive or rude.

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ORIGINAL: ginger21

Questions are the only way to learn and gain understanding. I just thought that question was ludicrous.

Don't mind me and my opinions. I'm just a lowly slave. ~_^

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ORIGINAL: Master609

My slave asked Me to call her a "nigger" and I must say I was very uncomfortable with the idea at first. First of all I'm from an area in South Texas were I learned prejudice because of My surroundings, but I never learned to be prejudiced. I took a black girl to My senior prom in High School and tought Myself at a young age not to see a difference in people. Some of My best friends are black and if they new I was calling My black slave a "nigger" we wouldn't be friends anymore; at least I don't think they would feel the same way about our friendship. So My slave "ginger21" has convinced Me that calling her a "nigger" is OK because it's what raelly gets her hot and I like to make the bitch hot; so why not?!

But I could never do it in public and I will never feel totally comfortable with the idea, but it makes My slave happy. Ya gotta make 'em happy now and then.

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll
Umm........ that was kinda harsh. :(

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ORIGINAL: suberic101


I was born in Texas. We moved when I was 5, before any kind of 'bigotry' could take hold.

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saddly because of human nature racism will never go away fully- by not participating, o encouraging such behavior.

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ORIGINAL: ragdoll

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ORIGINAL: Kiaban

I wont presume to answer for the person you wrote this to, but perhaps will offer this.
Humiliation is again by definition something that in a general or vanilla context would be offensive, perhaps even highly offensive.
Concider the use of terms like "Cunt and whore" often used in bdsm type play, and is a real turn on for many, now the same person that can be turned on by that could be outraged if called that while simply walking down the street.
If you try to define and accept any type of humiliation play verbal or physical by what is accepted in "every day vanilla life" you will never be able to wrap your mind around it.

Very good points. ~ You're very right.... and you used an example that i can really relate to so that helped me understand a lot better. ^_^ i would most definitely be offended if someone random on the street called me a "cunt" or "whore" but.... with someone i trusted it would be a turn on... ~ so i can see how racial comments could trigger the same kind of feelings....... ~

Verbal humiliation didn't so much confuse me... just the idea of racial names.... ~ but! your example made it a lot easier. i should have been able to think of that on my own. ~blushes~

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ORIGINAL: Lepidoptera

Exactly. Not to talk for her, but she probably likes it BECAUSE it's so horrible in a vanilla context. If anyone where to call me a "whore" in the vanilla world, they'd probably end up with a black eye- but in play it's a complete turn on- sort of like how I would NEVER want to be raped, but I enjoy play rape.

It all depends on how much you like humiliation. Some things might be going too far for some people, and those same things might be amazing for another.

Heh. ~ Like i appreciated Kiaban's response, i really appreciate yours. Your example was different, but it also helped me understand a lot better... or... at least have a better insight about it.

i still don't think i'd like racial words spoken to me... as any kind of humiliation, but, it's easier for me to "see" how someone else might like that... after reading your example.... ^^ Thank you!

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ORIGINAL: Raphael

I also cannot answer for ginger, but I've got to say... I like to say there are no stupid questions, but that one is making me rethink that.

She's black. She lives in the US. Do you think it's even conceivably, vaguely, wildly possible that the answer is anything but yes?

Umm........ that was kinda harsh. :(
i think it's also ...strange to assume that all black people in the USA have experienced racism. ....i don't know that that's true. ~ i have never been called a "nigger".... even though i've grown up in mostly white communities... i've never had anyone call me that (at least to my face - maybe it's happened bejind my back and i don't know about it)... ....and have never really experienced "overt" racism... ...

i have a sister who i know hasn't experienced any kind of racism at all (at least she says so... and cannot remember it ever happening).... so.... i don't like to assume that people are all racists.... Ya' know? It's possible that ginger21's experience was a lot like mine ...or even more like my sister's.

oops.. that said i do know racism exists and i do know that some people have experienced all sorts of negative things.... i'm not saying that doesn't happen.. i'm just saying it isn't part of everyone's life.