MadRabbit
Posts: 3460
Joined: 8/9/2006 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 first i think that there are multiple ideas of "no limits" floating around, when it's really not that complicated of a concept imo. the way i was trained/taught, a slave was by definition "no limits" since she/he has given up all rights upon agreeing to become the property of another. and by no limits, that meant that the slave gave up all personal limits, and took on the limits of her/his Owner. some may take this to mean that there is no such thing as no limits, however if the limits are not your own and you have no control over them, i think that would qualify as no limits. so as a slave while i have no personal limits, my Master has limits which he places upon me. however these limits are subject to change at any time, and have absolutely nothing to do with shared values/desires/trust etc. there are certainly things my Master subjects me to that i would make limits if i were a free submissive. I think our definitions are very similar, but just different on semantics. In theory, I could make a no limit slave do anything I want. I just dont. I could make her swallow HIV infected blood. I could make her break her own foot. I wont even consider doing either because her well being would trully be jeopardized. I dont want to question your relationship, but do you feal that there is certain things that you trust your Master wont do because they would truly harm you? Do you worry on a regular basis that he is going to do something that is going to trully permentantly harm you? I dont feal shared desires are a part of it. My desires arent going to change. Its more the shared trust part that I feal makes the concept work. Limits also has a big of a loose definition. When I think of "limits", I think of things that someone "can't" do as opposed to things they "won't" do. Of course, we can argue that there is really nothing someone "cant" do if they have enough willpower, but I think realistically, people "cant" do things. I cant have sex with a child. I cant kill myself. This is drastically different to my previous submissive's limit on "exercise" she made when I announced my views on working out. I dont everything about the M/S lifestyle and certainly dont have the experience to know how to handle every situation. I certainly dont want to say my definition is the only way though. quote:
ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 MadRabbit said: There is just a deep enough level of trust and understanding that the Master wont ask the slave to do something that would cross those limits. i would say that's true for some, but not for all. in my case, my Master does what he wills, which means that i cannot count on him not crossing certain lines or boundaries. actually it's quite the contrary, sometimes he crosses those lines just to make the point that he can, and sometimes he crosses them just because he wants to do what he wants to do, and the end result (damage to me) is not relevant. it can be immensely difficult at times, especially from an emotional standpoint as i can be a very sensitive person, however it's something i accepted when i came into this life. this is "no limits." Do you feal that anything your Master has done has caused serious, if not permentant, harm? Damage is a broad definition. I can cause damage when cutting someone threw SM play. The damage though is part of the play.
_____________________________
Advice for New Dominants The Unpolitically Correct Lifestyle Definitions Obama is NOT the Messiah! He's just a VERY NAUGHTY BOY
|