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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

spiritually? it fulfills you spiritually? you're fucking serious aren't you? fuck it, ok, i'll play along, why does it appeal to you this way, what about your need to delude yourself by believing in an imaginary spirituality is filled by your submission?

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The fulfillment is deeper than my sexuality. It exceeds it.

there is nothing deeper, nothing exceeds your sex drive, the urge to procreate is the most fundamentally basic of all human needs.

I didn't expect you to understand and I'm not surprised to see you question it. Your rudeness in questioning, however, does not warrant an answer. Frankly, I'm unimpressed, Hannah.

That said, my being is made up spiritually.  All I am and do is driven from that.  Sexuality is part of that.  Joy is part of that. Pain is part of that.  It all comes down to who I am as a spiritual being.

If you think a person's spirituality is imaginary, however, there's nothing anyone can say on that topic that will satisfy you.  Enjoy yourself.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

spiritually? it fulfills you spiritually? you're fucking serious aren't you? fuck it, ok, i'll play along, why does it appeal to you this way, what about your need to delude yourself by believing in an imaginary spirituality is filled by your submission?

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The fulfillment is deeper than my sexuality. It exceeds it.

there is nothing deeper, nothing exceeds your sex drive, the urge to procreate is the most fundamentally basic of all human needs.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

i'm talking about the biological motivations that drive the human psyche aynne.

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ORIGINAL: ThatsMissBitch

I was talking to a vanilla friend the other day. She refers to my lifestyle choices as "kinky sex". I had to laugh and loved the confused look on her face when I explained for myself it has little to do with sex. For me it is about control, power, sensations, energy. I am sadistic and get high off causing pain to those who enjoy it. And sometimes to those that don't. I am also a masochist I get high from pain that most people can not even dream about.

So tell me is it really about sex for most people?

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

i'm talking about the biological motivations that drive the human psyche aynne.

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Actually, I'm not proud of it at all, the fact that you think I even could be only shows how completely you misunderstand my love for Hanners, and the concept of love itself, or at least the way I understand it. I love her the way she is, I have no desire to change her. Part of what makes Hanners Hanners is that she swears, so I am proudest of her when she is just herself without trying to fit in.I am actually a little embarrassed for her and disappointed when she deliberately cleans up her posts in an effort to have people take her seriously. One reason for this is because she is bowing to pressure when she does it, and the Hanners I know and love doesn't do that unless she feels it is important. I don't think making a point on here is important enough for her to do that, the fact that she does at times feel that it is, is to my eye, one of her endearing little weaknesses. But her weaknesses are parts of her I love as well.

Another reason I dislike it when she does it, is because it rarely works. She will censor herself to make the point, and some stupid little snot will come back and make a remark about how there isn't a single fuck in her post, rather than actually addressing what she put in her post.

So to summarize; no Heather isn't even the slightest bit proud when Hanners censors herself for the benefit of narrow-minded people who won't even bother paying attention to her anyway. As far as Heather is concerned, anybody who can't or won't pay attention to what Hanners says because of the way she says it can kiss Heather's pretty little ass. They are petty, narrow-minded, bigoted little people who are slaves to social convention, and they and their opinions are about as important to Heather as what Heather flushes down the toilet every day.

Now, Miss winspiritsbaby, either answer the questions she asked you, or fuck off.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather
...it goes to the very core of our beings, it is part of us at the most basic of levels.

a person's only purpose in being alive is to fuck and make babies, that is why you were born, the only reason. that's where my dominance and submission is seated, i guess most of you are just shallower.

it must really suck to be like that, but at least now i understand why you all get so fucking defensive when confronted by your own superficiality.

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ORIGINAL: winspiritsbaby


I apologize, I must have misunderstood one of her older posts. I thought she said she was trying to clean up her posting for you. I never said that I don't pay attention to what she says with or without her language. I have read many of her posts and do pay attention, or I wouldn't have misunderstood one of her old posts. And I did answer her questions, I just didn't bold them or color them within the quote.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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that's not exactly satire

actually it is. all i did was turn your own statements around. you keep saying your dominance/submission is deeper than mine, that mine is only superficial because it isn't a spiritual thing. so if you find it insulting when i  use your own position against you, well who the fuck really needs to take a long hard look at themselves here?

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

yes, this is not the thread to discuss the weakness that makes you feel the need to deliberately delude yourself into believing there is a spiritual nature to anything. if you wish to discuss that, then start a fucking thread and we will.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

you're misunderstanding tmb, the fact that life is a wonderful thing full of beauty and joy, has nothing whatsoever to do with the biological purpose of life. that is to sustain itself. the only reason you were born is to pass on your dna. that's why we all were born. the urge to perpetuate the species is at the root of all human, and animal for that matter, motivations and behaviours.

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ORIGINAL: ThatsMissBitch

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

yes, this is not the thread to discuss the weakness that makes you feel the need to deliberately delude yourself into believing there is a spiritual nature to anything. if you wish to discuss that, then start a fucking thread and we will.

Hannah this is my thread and it is a great place to discuss our spiritual nature. That is a big motivator for a lot of people in this lifestyle. Myself included.