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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 10:02:53 AM

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Yes, I observed the same. I'm new to this world and looking for someone to explore and learn. I can see many sub/slave have given their messenger id but when you add them ...they ask for money. OMG...I dont think Im gonna find someone real... :(

It makes me question what kind of profile you go for. When I hunt for genuine doms, it's always very obvious from their profile if we're gonna click or not. Most of my issues are distance and personally I think it's extremely easy to spot through a female's profile if she's genuine or not. Read her journals as well to get a feel of her if she's a real person. It's not hard.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 10:13:15 AM

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My real response to you when I read the thread TITLE was, "Why are so many assholes convincing themselves that they are masters?".

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 11:02:31 AM

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Yup, you do need to work on communication and how to communicate clearly, because I am baffled by your analogy, maybe I am slow.

This communication is very crucial to attracting the perfect woman for you. Because what's happening is, women are misinterpreting what you mean and then you think they are lying or just being selfish, taking and not giving.

We're all baffled by his analogy. So, I think the problem isn't that these women are "greedy". It's that the communication is so poor that NEITHER side is getting what they want and his lack of experience doesn't help the situation.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 11:04:28 AM

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Yes, I observed the same. I'm new to this world and looking for someone to explore and learn. I can see many sub/slave have given their messenger id but when you add them ...they ask for money. OMG...I dont think Im gonna find someone real... :(

You have learned a valuable screening tip - don't waste your time on profiles that include a YIM.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 11:05:35 AM

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Seems to be a communication breakdown. Have you express what your needs are in the beginning and told the sub/slave what will be received for having your needs met?

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 11:19:39 AM

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Yes, I observed the same. I'm new to this world and looking for someone to explore and learn. I can see many sub/slave have given their messenger id but when you add them ...they ask for money. OMG...I dont think Im gonna find someone real... :(

You have learned a valuable screening tip - don't waste your time on profiles that include a YIM.

Agreed, although talking via YIM seems rather common initially. I always think it's strange when a woman will easily give away her phone number. They will just have to try to avert seeming catfish as best they can. I had one girl in particular calling me a fake for not showing a pic of my face. It happens, it's more common than ever but they will just have to try to eliminate the "this is not a man" theory as quickly as they can and adhere to the site's warnings about sending money to strangers. Otherwise better off attending an event.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 12:19:26 PM

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We're all baffled by his analogy. So, I think the problem isn't that these women are "greedy". It's that the communication is so poor that NEITHER side is getting what they want and his lack of experience doesn't help the situation.

Considering how poor his English is, and how often he uses terms that are in a generally similar category, but have a slightly different meaning from what he intended (confusing the heck out of people) I think that the intended original tittle of the thread -in standard English- would read: "Why are so many slaves/subs selfish?"

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 12:44:09 PM

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We're all baffled by his analogy. So, I think the problem isn't that these women are "greedy". It's that the communication is so poor that NEITHER side is getting what they want and his lack of experience doesn't help the situation.

Considering how poor his English is, and how often he uses terms that are in a generally similar category, but have a slightly different meaning from what he intended (confusing the heck out of people) I think that the intended original tittle of the thread -in standard English- would read: "Why are so many slaves/subs selfish?"

But, even so, I'm not so sure that it's about the women being selfish. If the communication in this thread is indicative of the inter-personal communication happening between the OP and these women, I think it's more likely a mis-communication than either side being deliberately selfish.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 5:32:16 PM

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One thing that I find amazing is that you feel no guilt for having pissed off and hurt women. I'm not sure what the technical name for this is, but is there a way that you could develop an empathetic side to your personality? One that cares about others?

Narcissist personality disorder.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 7:06:59 PM

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why is it so hard to find a slave who can handle the blessings i give through the paddle or whatever? I have needs also.

You say greedy like it's a bad thing.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 9:20:24 PM

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OP,

Just because someone, or several someones, aren't compatible with you specifically. it doesn't mean they're greedy. I happen to love spanking a butt til it's rosy red. Hell, one guy I regularly spank likes me to turn his ass purple. I'M the one who stops because I don't want to cause nerve damage, even though HE wants me to keep going.

There's a right way and a wrong way to spank, and I hate saying that because I absolutely hate one true wayism. I really do. Do a warm-up first. Do you know what that is? If you don't you should. That eases the spankee little by little into being able to take a harder spanking, that is up to her or his personal limit. if you aren't warming her up, it's no wonder they don't like your spanking. You have to treat them like people not things without any feelings. If you're doing a warm-up, I'm sure your spankings don't feel like blessings to them.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 9:33:23 PM

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thank you all once again for the training in spanking 101, sorry to hurt everybody's feelings but that wasn't the problem,. and for the record I am a very experienced master and have sought guidance and even training in my early years , I do know the warm-up and the soothing after and how to stretch my slave limits bringing them to new heights.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 9:51:03 PM

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thank you all once again for the training in spanking 101, sorry to hurt everybody's feelings but that wasn't the problem,. and for the record I am a very experienced master and have sought guidance and even training in my early years , I do know the warm-up and the soothing after and how to stretch my slave limits bringing them to new heights.

Fella, we can read. We can put together the pieces. I think we've got a pretty accurate take on the situation.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 10:52:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: budda1488
thank you all once again for the training in spanking 101, sorry to hurt everybody's feelings but that wasn't the problem,. and for the record I am a very experienced master and have sought guidance and even training in my early years , I do know the warm-up and the soothing after and how to stretch my slave limits bringing them to new heights.

Or you're in denial about your level of skills, or either, you're really a sadist and gets high on women not enjoying the experience. Because I am still interpreting the main reason of this post is that women don't give back after you have given. But the only reason why I could think of when women don't give is because what they have to do to give is something they do not enjoy, and you get a kick of making them do things they don't enjoy.

But this is not a problem, it's simply about finding masochists who enjoys doing that for you. Yet again, clear communication and expectations put forward will deliver to you what you need.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/26/2014 11:39:42 PM

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~FRing it~

Personally I think that you point the finger at these people you deal with...but forget that you have three fingers pointing right back at you. The common denominator in all of this is you! We've all been told repeatedly what an experienced master you are (blah, blah, blah)...yet you keep picking people that you complain later aren't suitable for you. Or you hold them to the standard of someone from your past. And this is somehow their fault? Sometimes it boils down to where you keep going wrong, rather than bitching about them.

The blessings given through the paddle or whatever?

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/27/2014 8:11:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: budda1488

thank you all once again for the training in spanking 101, sorry to hurt everybody's feelings but that wasn't the problem,. and for the record I am a very experienced master and have sought guidance and even training in my early years , I do know the warm-up and the soothing after and how to stretch my slave limits bringing them to new heights.

But what you know isn't translating into good results for you, or you wouldn't have begun this thread.
Instead, you get frustrated and end the relationship, thinking they are being selfish or that they lied.
You chose these women as appropriate partners who could meet your needs.
So, even if you are the best master in the world, the problem still isn't with them.
It is with you.

You aren't able to stretch the limits of these women and bring them to new heights, are you?
This is not meant as any kind of put down:
When you had success it may have just been luck.
They may have been women who responded either well to you or to your technique.

That doesn't necessarily translate into your being able to do that with most slaves.
It isn't a one size fits all box of bliss.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/27/2014 9:39:38 AM

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what I find amusing here, is i put this post on here to hear the opinions of slaves/subs, but instead get bombarded by doms? thought this was ask a sub or slave, I have had some good advise, the rest is just amusing me to pass time.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/27/2014 9:41:48 AM

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what I find amusing here, is i put this post on here to hear the opinions of slaves/subs, but instead get bombarded by doms? thought this was ask a sub or slave, I have had some good advise, the rest is just amusing me to pass time.

Anyone can post anywhere.

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/27/2014 9:58:07 AM

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~FRing it~

Ah, bitching about what others have to say because one doesn't like what he is hearing...

Seems to be a pretty common theme. Color me not surprised in the least

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RE: why are so many slaves/subs greedy? - 3/27/2014 10:02:22 AM

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what I find amusing here, is i put this post on here to hear the opinions of slaves/subs, but instead get bombarded by doms? thought this was ask a sub or slave, I have had some good advise, the rest is just amusing me to pass time.

And don't you think that a Dom/me wouldn't know anything about their sub(s)??
Obviously you have no clue with yours otherwise you wouldn't be so puzzled about it.

Sheeesh!! What a myopic PoV!!

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