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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:43:39 AM

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In that third worlds shithole called Singapore it is legal to marry and have sex with a girl who has reached puberty.
Even in Idaho the age of consent used to be 10.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I am saying in Singapore ONLY FOR MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY INSIST MUHAMMAD DID IT, a woman doesn't even have to reach puberty to get married and get fucked by her Muslim husband.

But for ALL non-Muslims. Both parental written consent are required for marriage under 21.

For Muslims, being Muslims, parental consent does not protect the kid, since their religion allows their child to be married young. And unfortunately, if there is something backwards about Singapore laws, which I believe is in the midst of being change, as we are protesting this enough and it was recently brought up in parliament that some new laws need to drafted to protect wife rape. A husband can legally rape his wife. There is no such thing as rape for husbands. So Poor Muslim Child.

As for myself. I said I am able to give myself orgasms since a child, all you need is a showerhead and you got your vibrator. But as a child, you don't identify it as a sexual thing but more like a massage. But I have never had penetrative sex until I was 19. So please do not use me as an example. I have never had child sex.

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Now you are making shit up...which is the nicest way I can think of to call you a lying punkassmotherphoquer.
The Christian bible on the other hand does condone lying check out corinthians 9:19-23.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Dude your stupid article PROVES that lying is permissible in Islam. So how am I lying? The idiot Muslim in your idiot link CAN'T even deny that Islam ALLOWS lying. Infact the whole article is a Muslim fellow justifying WHY LYING IN ISLAM IS PERMITTED BY HIS ALLAH!

You are soo dishonest Thompson! Your stupid article has that Muslim Fellow even explaining that it is perfectly okay and permitted for Muslims to lie when they are in war with "non-Muslims".

And what do you think lone wolves Islamic terrorists are doing world wide? They are "in war" with non-Muslims! So they are gonna pretend to be nice.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:48:31 AM

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As does Christianity...
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

Really? Jesus teaches you to beat your wife? This is new to me. Show me proof that Jesus preached to his followers to beat their wives. Do show me evidence.

If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:51:32 AM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

So Jesus did not teach you to beat your wife. Got it!
But Muhammad certainly does teach you to beat your wife.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:59:37 AM

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there are two books of "Corinthians" troll.

the verses you reference in first Corinthians have to do with the apostle paul's evangelism and have absolutely nothing to do
with lying.

Do you just open your mouth to change feet? Paul speaks directly to deceiving those he preaches to by pretending to be one
of them in order to convert them. Perhaps if you were to read the commentary in the link I provided you would not seem such a
puerile christian sycophant.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:05:21 AM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

So Jesus did not teach you to beat your wife. Got it!
But Muhammad certainly does teach you to beat your wife.

You can try to play word games sweetie but that is what christianity teaches. The cites presented show you to be nothing less
than a punkassmotherphoquing liar. You asked for it and I provided the proof of the disingenuous tripe you post. Suck it up sweetie.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:13:17 AM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

So Jesus did not teach you to beat your wife. Got it!
But Muhammad certainly does teach you to beat your wife.

You can try to play word games sweetie but that is what christianity teaches. The cites presented show you to be nothing less
than a punkassmotherphoquing liar. You asked for it and I provided the proof of the disingenuous tripe you post. Suck it up sweetie.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I ask for proof that Jesus teaches you to beat your wife.

Christianity also have many Prophets. Old testament has their own prophets when Jesus have not existed yet.

But most Christians follow Jesus.

Most Muslims follow Muhammad.

So you show me zero proof that Jesus gave lessons to his followers on how to beat their wives.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:27:12 AM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

So Jesus did not teach you to beat your wife. Got it!
But Muhammad certainly does teach you to beat your wife.

You can try to play word games sweetie but that is what christianity teaches. The cites presented show you to be nothing less
than a punkassmotherphoquing liar. You asked for it and I provided the proof of the disingenuous tripe you post. Suck it up sweetie.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I ask for proof that Jesus teaches you to beat your wife.

You can play all the word games you wish...the fact remains that the christian bible teaches men to beat their wives.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 8:28:47 AM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Ephesians 5:22
Deuteronomy 22:13-21

So Jesus did not teach you to beat your wife. Got it!
But Muhammad certainly does teach you to beat your wife.

hey troll---ephesians 5:22 refers to "wives submitting to their husbands." that's in reference to men leading, not beating their wives.

the verses in Deuteronomy have to do with the old testament punishment for adultery and are not "jesus teaching Christians to beat their wives."

the irony there, which will be totally lost on you is, in the new testament jesus has an encounter with an adultress, men who want to stone her to death, and instead he extends forgiveness to the woman, and chastises the men.

and either way troll---sorry, something being in the bible, and this has been explained to you repeatedly, does not make it "Christian."

again---apply your favorite saying to yourself.

and an admonition for you---you clearly have no idea what Christianity is, or about the bible, you'd do well to stop acting like you do. you make a fool out of yourself in countless ways, theres no need to continue on in this one.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 8:56:52 AM

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Back on topic:

Putin after his last visit from the Jehovah's witnesses, who insist that he'll go to a bad place for invading the Ukraine and supporting Assad.
This is why he banned them from Russia.
(They're cool with the gay bashing, though.)

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 10:56:48 AM

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In that third worlds shithole called Singapore it is legal to marry and have sex with a girl who has reached puberty.
Even in Idaho the age of consent used to be 10.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I am saying in Singapore ONLY FOR MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY INSIST MUHAMMAD DID IT, a woman doesn't even
have to reach puberty to get married and get fucked by her Muslim husband.

Once again you prove yourself to be a liar.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrimonial_law_of_Singapore

But for ALL non-Muslims. Both parental written consent are required for marriage under 21.

For someone who claims to be from that third world shithole called
Singapore you do not seem to know shit about the law.
The cite I posted says you are full of shit as usual.

For Muslims, being Muslims, parental consent does not protect the kid, since their religion allows their child to be
married young.

Not without parental consent dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

As for myself. I said I am able to give myself orgasms since a child, all you need is a showerhead and you got your
vibrator. But as a child, you don't identify it as a sexual thing but more like a massage.

If you are giving yourself orgasms that is sexual dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I have never had child sex.

Masturbation is sex according to the law in that third world shithole called Singapore.

Now you are making shit up...which is the nicest way I can think of to call you a lying punkassmotherphoquer.
The Christian bible on the other hand does condone lying check out corinthians 9:19-23.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Dude your stupid article PROVES that lying is permissible in Islam. So how am I lying?

When you say that islam is the only religion to condone lying. Don't you read what sanity gives you to post?

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 11:21:41 AM

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hey troll---ephesians 5:22 refers to "wives submitting to their husbands." that's in reference to men leading,
not beating their wives.

What does the husband do if she tells him to kiss her ass?

the verses in Deuteronomy have to do with the old testament punishment for adultery and are
not "jesus teaching Christians to beat their wives."

It is not talking about adultery it is talking about her not being a virgin.

the irony there, which will be totally lost on you is, in the new testament jesus has an encounter with an adultress,
men who want to stone her to death, and instead he extends forgiveness to the woman, and chastises the men.

If you are speaking of mary magdalen she was a hooker not an adultress. They were going to stone her for
rolling her clients...prostitution was legal.

and either way troll---sorry, something being in the bible, and this has been explained to you repeatedly,
does not make it "Christian."

Are you trying to tell us that the bible is not the Christian rule book?

again---apply your favorite saying to yourself.

and an admonition for you---you clearly have no idea what Christianity is, or about the bible, you'd do well to
stop acting like you do. you make a fool out of yourself in countless ways, theres no need to continue on in this one.

I am pretty successful at showing you to be the mindless fool you are.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 1:46:45 PM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Not in the old testament.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 2:02:38 PM

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If it is in the bible it is Christian...you do not get to pick and choose what to believe.

Not in the old testament.

Aren't the ten commandments in the old testament?

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:05:39 PM

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Your outstandingly unsophisticated understanding of religion stops you from seeing that there are Muslims, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists who promote violence against other human beings and provide religious justifications of what they do. In every case there is a very cogent religious argument used by people of the same faith who abhor violence.

I do not have an unsophiscated understanding. You basically trying to say that MOST religion are innately peaceful.

I disagree that Islam is peaceful and I prove that it is not peaceful simply by referencing that they are following a Murderer. This is not even a smear! They are LITERALLY following a WarLord who has taken thousands of Lives! And the FACT that he took lives is an absolute historical truth, cannot be denied by any Muslims.

Buddha and Jesus have not taken lives. If their followers take lives, they are disobeying their religion as simple as that. Their role model has never lead by example to take lives.

So your point would be. Nazis are mostly peaceful. It's just their interpretation of Hitler's message that makes them evil, IF they don't find the peaceful interpretation of it. So just because Hitler gas jews in Gas Chambers. Don't judge the current Nazi followers by what their leader did? Modern Nazis are all peace and love today!

And THAT is ridiculous. I am gonna condemn any Nazis for following Hitler the Murderer, just like I am gonna condemn any Muslim for following and flying the flag of Muhammad the Murderer. They deserve to be judge for supporting Murderers! Even IF they chose not to commit the murders themselves. They hail and worship a Murderer!

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Yet still Buddhist monks in Myanmar have incited horrible violence against Muslims who have lived in their country for hundreds of years. Not just a few beatings but mob violence resulting in the murders of many defenceless people.

Am I to judge all Buddhists by the actions of these monks? Am I to believe that their religious justifications for what they do when it is communal violence of the most indefensible kind.

What is their religious justification? Buddhist Monks in Myammar does not even use religious justification for their killings. It's more political over there. Perhaps even racial. It's just like Singapore, it's impossible for a Malay to be Buddhist, just like it's impossible for a Chinese to be a Muslim. So we usually use religious following in replacement of race. As you know you are definitely a specific race if you follow a specific religion. That is quite common in Asia.

But Do explain their religious justification? They just happen to decide to disobey Buddha because of their internal disagreements with other religious groups , but they were certainly NOT quoting Buddha and not killing in the name of Buddhism. And they did not say that Buddha approves of their killing or that Buddha told them to kill.

I can explain to you every Muslim killer religious justification. They were just emulating Muhammad. And are killing in the name of Islam. And they will say Allah and Muhammad approves of it and told them to kill.

Personally with Hinduism, they never claim to be peaceful. Unlike the lying Muslims. Hindus own up to their violence, they like their violent gods! They are proud of it! Hindus own up to "eye for an eye". But the only great thing about Hinduism is they are more like "Satanism", where if you read the Satanic Bible. They don't bother you if you don't bother them. So they aren't such a menace like Islam world wide. And Hindus also practice the barbaric Honour Killings, but they own up to it. They don't falsely pretend and lie that it's not part of their religion.

No Greta, I did not say that most religions are innately peaceful.

What I said, referring to Muslims, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists that "In every case there is a very cogent religious argument used by people of the same faith who abhor violence."

Scriptures by their very nature are open to interpretation.

What you are doing is choosing an interpretation you don't like and accusing every Muslim of living by that. Then you are taking other religions are saying that there adherents who commit violence are either committing less serious violence or it's not to do with their religion.

Then you are trying to separate religion, race and culture, which is a noble aim as they are not the same thing - except when it comes to the violence and these things get horribly mixed up. You think that there are no cultural and racial elements to what you refer to as Muslim violence? If you think that then you are no scholar of history or culture.

You think that extreme Hindu violence against Muslims in India that led to partition had no religious overtones given that these were people who had shared a common culture for hundreds of years? You think a cult of Buddhist superiority was not a driving force in the killings in Myanmar, especially when they were killing a subjugated minority living in an apartheid system with reduced rights?

From the other point of view you think that Middle Eastern Islamic terrorism has no political and cultural basis when much of it stems from a sense of historical grievance which has a great deal to do with political, cultural and racial issues. In Afghanistan you think that the Taliban are not a political movement, who impose cultural control based on a very partial view of Islam not shared by their neighbours?

The long and short of it is you have a deep seated, almost racist, prejudice against Muslims and you have a myopia as big as your unchecked hatred.

Tell me - what religion filled your heart with this much hate? And then explain to me what a beautiful, tolerant religion it is.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 6:11:59 PM

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Back on topic:

Putin after his last visit from the Jehovah's witnesses, who insist that he'll go to a bad place for invading the Ukraine and supporting Assad.
This is why he banned them from Russia.
(They're cool with the gay bashing, though.)

Quite.

Unfortunately even the OP did not focus on this and used it as an excuse to return to her favourite topic of Muslim bashing because the Muslim's are "worse" than the Jehovah's witnesses.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:13:31 PM

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What you are doing is choosing an interpretation you don't like and accusing every Muslim of living by that. Then you are taking other religions are saying that there adherents who commit violence are either committing less serious violence or it's not to do with their religion.

Again you are treating Islam like Christianity. Because Christianity is filled with allegory, you can CHOOSE your interpretation.

But with Islam, there is no CHOICE of interpretation. They got Hadiths that give real life historical Muhammad example to teach you how to correctly interprete the Quran and the Hadiths supports ALL literal interpretation.

Just like all Buddhist by right should not eat meat at all. But majority of Buddhist CHOSE to disobey and not follow.

Just because a Muslim chose to disobey evil parts of their religion, DOES NOT make their leader or their religion peaceful.

There is NO interpretation of Islam that Muhammad DID NOT Kill! No Muslims on this earth will ever deny that Muhammad have killed.

End of the day, you are supporting a Religion that supports a murderer. What's the difference between Nazism and Muslims? Both follow murderers. And both have members that do not kill.

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Tell me - what religion filled your heart with this much hate? And then explain to me what a beautiful, tolerant religion it is.

I'm an Atheist for gawd's sake. The religion I like the best is Buddhism because, everything about it make sense. But Buddhism has no God. You simply follow a human being who reach enlightenment, but what it takes to reach enlightenment is soo difficult that, most Buddhists don't even bother trying. As by right, a Buddhist should detach themselves from all emotions and worldly possessions. And live their life needing nobody and needing nothing. Committing a violent act is an emotional act. Not following Buddha example AT ALL.

But the difference is, All Buddhist will be punish in hell for their transgressions. Those Myammar Buddhist will be punished in hell in Buddhist beliefs. And we got a very good hell to house all of them! http://www.cvltnation.com/the-eighteen-layers-of-chinese-hell/

But Muslims who commit violent transgressions, Muslims gets to go to heaven and rewarded for it.

IF you don't see the difference!

You think I should be nice to a religion just because their followers disobey the religion? You gotta be kidding! They are worshipping a murderer!

And in my last post, I have already established that ALL Muslims countries multiliate baby girls. Why the hell are you guys defending wife beaters, and FGM.

It's unreal. And hide it behind the bullshit of racism, whatever.

I'm gonna fucking HATE any religion who mutilate female babies and encourage wife beating.

And that has nothing to do with Racism. All you liberals are just supporting a disgusting heinous religion.

You live in the UK, and there are more than 100 illegal sharia courts abusing women over there! You guys don't even protect the poor Muslims women from being hurt by their husbands. And you guys support the continued abuse of those Muslim women, by covering up, by screaming Racism IF anybody dares talk about the TRUTH of Islam. Those women will forever be abused because you guys support a religion that abuse women.

That is what is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

And do you know what else? In UK, most of your Muslims may be Paki or Indian looking males. Especially the honor killing ones.

But in our part of the world. Indians are usually Christians. Many have Christian Names. And they do come from India. The specific race that is Muslim are Malay.

And I love our Indians here, what a difference just following a different religion makes for them, that they get to rise up and become our best judges, lawyers and surgeons.

But I am probably gonna dislike the Indians in the UK IF they were Muslims. Even though they look exactly the same as Singaporean Indians.

And any Chinese person who join Islam, that's just disgusting. End of the day. Would a Jewish person marry a Nazi knowing he is Nazi? Even though he wasn't Hitler and he didn't personally kill any Jews?

Why would a woman ever marry a Muslim man knowing that he wants to mutilate our future daughter's pussy as per his leader's instructions? As well as, as per his leader's marital advice, beat his wife if all else fails in getting her co-operation?

Of course Muslim men won those women over by lying, "No Honey! All those are lies about Islam, it's not true!" Until after marriage, then you find out it's true!

Just look what happened to Janet Jackson when she married her Muslim dude. Thank goodness she got a son with him and not a daughter! And now she is divorcing him, not surprise.

He made her wear this.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:22:36 PM

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Quite.

Unfortunately even the OP did not focus on this and used it as an excuse to return to her favourite topic of Muslim bashing because the Muslim's are "worse" than the Jehovah's witnesses.

My Topic is about Islam is worst than Jehovah Witnesses.

So it goes into, how is Islam worst. All on point topic.

We all agreed, Jehovah Witnesses just got banned for being annoying and door knocking, but because they are less powerful, they get bullied. But we all agreed Jehovah Witnesses does not encourage killing, FGM, wife beating etc.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:32:05 PM

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I am saying in Singapore ONLY FOR MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY INSIST MUHAMMAD DID IT, a woman doesn't even
have to reach puberty to get married and get fucked by her Muslim husband.

Once again you prove yourself to be a liar.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrimonial_law_of_Singapore

But for ALL non-Muslims. Both parental written consent are required for marriage under 21.

For someone who claims to be from that third world shithole called
Singapore you do not seem to know shit about the law.
The cite I posted says you are full of shit as usual.

For Muslims, being Muslims, parental consent does not protect the kid, since their religion allows their child to be
married young.

Not without parental consent dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Thompson, you are seriously class 1 idiot. You are looking stupider and stupider.
I said:
1) Parental consent required for Marriage Under 21, this is good for all non-muslims because non-muslims do not have a leader WHO lead by example by marrying 9 yr olds and having sex with her
2) Parental consent does not protect Muslim under-age girls, because, Islam follows the age of Aisha for what is acceptable marriage age. Which is 9 yr old. So Muslims parents will give consent ANYWAY!

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If you are giving yourself orgasms that is sexual dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I have never had child sex.

Masturbation is sex according to the law in that third world shithole called Singapore.

Seriously? You want to compare a 50 yr old inserting his penis into a 9 yr old girl, to me simply using a shower head to wash my own pussy at 9 yr old that brings pleasure as well, but part of daily cleaning? You want to say this is exactly the same thing? How desperate you are.

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When you say that islam is the only religion to condone lying. Don't you read what sanity gives you to post?

19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.
20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.
21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

I see zero teaching about lying here. I see them teaching you on how to get along with other people. This looks more like diplomacy than lying.

It's like, if you want to win the poor, you don't go in there with all your gold blink and bragging about your wealth right? You exercise a little sensitivity and find things in common with them.

Oh man, this is such a nice and friendly verse! I can't believe you are comparing this to the Muslim verses which are all very hostile.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 7:59:37 PM

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You live in the UK, and there are more than 100 illegal sharia courts abusing women over there! You guys don't even protect the poor Muslims women from being hurt by their husbands. And you guys support the continued abuse of those Muslim women, by covering up, by screaming Racism IF anybody dares talk about the TRUTH of Islam. Those women will forever be abused because you guys support a religion that abuse women.

That is what is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Greta - try and read something with some substance to it before you tell me how "disgusting" the UK's approach to its own citizens is.

How many errors can you make in one statement?

There are no Sharia "courts" in the UK and what does exist is not illegal. People are free to choose to accept mediation anywhere they choose, and having gone through that mediation they still have access to the court system, which is based on English, Scottish or Northern Irish law.

Muslim women have the full protection of UK law - even if they go to a Imam for mediation under "Sharia". Many women getting divorced come out of that mediation with better and quicker financial settlements than they would get in the UK courts, especially those who only had religious and not civil marriages. And they still have access to the court system if they don't like the outcome.

Do I think people should approach their Imam, or priest to settle their marital and financial disputes? No I do not. It's asking for some fairly bizarre outcomes.

Are Muslims replacing UK law with something else? No they are not, and they cannot, and there is no support for them to do so - that is why the only thing Imam's will ever be able to do is to offer mediation to parties who consent to it.

Am I or frankly anyone else in the UK frightened to criticise the actions of some Muslims? No we are not. The only ones who complain that they cannot criticise, strangely enough are people like you, who spout hatred the whole time but can't get themselves taken seriously enough. They complain about Muslims all the time and then say people are silencing them. I wish someone would fucking silence them sometimes.

In this country there are many people who abuse women, as they do in Singapore. All women, including Muslim women, have access to the protection of law and I sincerely wish it worked better for them, Muslim or not. I'm sure, despite all the advantages Singapore has, that you have not wiped oppression and violence against women off the map.

The point is that no group is all good or all bad. I just try to have some balance and toleration in the way I approach any religion. There are all kinds of subtleties and complexities to consider before you condemn millions of people.

Your screaming hatred towards Muslims and your wilful ignorance about the very different sects and interpretations of the Qur'an looks very like the most base prejudice, however loud you shout.

And you do shout very loud.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/27/2017 10:02:15 PM

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There are no Sharia "courts" in the UK and what does exist is not illegal. People are free to choose to accept mediation anywhere they choose, and having gone through that mediation they still have access to the court system, which is based on English, Scottish or Northern Irish law.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sharia-courts-in-uk-face-government-probe-over-treatment-of-women-a7049826.html
The Government is to launch an investigation into whether sharia courts operating in the UK discriminate against women – legitimising forced marriages and issuing unfair divorce settlements.
So here is your government investigating Muslims FOR FORCING women into marriage through their Sharia courts!

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In this country there are many people who abuse women, as they do in Singapore.

This is lamest excuse ever. The difference is, Islam is a large powerful religion that supports abuse of women and encourage their followers to continue to do so.

Compared to random wife beaters who are NOT backed by any religion to commit their deeds.

Now which situation will cause MORE women abuse?

By taking down Islam, you would save alot of Muslim women from abuse for a start!

How many women does Saudi Arabia have alone? That could be saved?

Random Wife beater = gets jailed and punished in civil law countries

Muslim wife beater = IS NOT A CRIME in most Muslim laws countries

Another thing is, I was under the impression that all the Sharia Courts in the UK are ran illegally. BUT now that I know it is fucking LEGAL! WTF? Man I got no respect for the British Government now. Supporting this atrocity of abuse of women!

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The point is that no group is all good or all bad. I just try to have some balance and toleration in the way I approach any religion. There are all kinds of subtleties and complexities to consider before you condemn millions of people.

So if you meet someone who is part of the Storm Front Movement, who loves Hitler and Stalin and think they are his idol, and basically supports all forms of white supermacy.

You are saying, that there are subtleties and complexities to consider with them? Okay...

To me, it's black and white. You either SUPPORT a murderer, a child rapist, someone who encourage beating their wife into submission, and mandate FGM for all female babies, and follow his teachings. OR you don't! It's not a grey area.

The only grey area I will consider are Muslims who are Muslims AGAINST their Will, since ALL Muslim countries have punishment by law for leaving Islam. So essentially, a huge portion of these Muslims people are Muslims AGAINST Their will!

Another reason why we need to stop praising and making excuses for this oppressing religion!

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