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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 11:19:54 AM   
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If you were looking for a real answer....

The reasons for searching for a younger submissive are numerous.  But I'll speak from my own experiences.  I think in many cases they are just looking for a little girl.  For some people, that age gap is essential to their Daddy/lg dynamic.  I've met men who want to be a real father figure in a girl's life.  They want to take her shopping, pay for college, protect her, give her fatherly advice.  If a father walked into a daughter's life when she was 40, he would have missed all the experiences in between 18 and 40. 

You are legal at 18, but are you really 'grown up' ?  I'm still growing up and I've met many people who want to father me while I finish this stage of my life.  You probably consider yourself a grown woman.  I am twenty and don't consider myself  'grown' and I'm willing to bet many girls my age feel the same.  Is it so horrible that a Dominant who wants to be a daddy would go after a girl in this stage?

Not to mention at 20, my life course is not set.  I don't have children.  I don't own a home.  I haven't even decided on a major yet!  I can understand why some men would be attracted to this lack of stability/permanence and want to be the person/thing that gives my life some stability and permanence.



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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 11:39:18 AM   
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Iinteresting angle, June.  One could say, from that perspective, that because I missed that with my own daughter (due to a divorce, and being on seperate continents) who is now grown and living on her own, I am seeking something I never had a chance to participate in.  And, in and of itself it does have some validity, but, for me, I'm not searching solely for a "replacement" to what I missed.  I would relish the opportunity, but it's not the focus of my searchings.  I'd be equally accepting of a Woman in her 30's or 40's as well, provided I found her to be of the proper mindset, and physically attractive to me.

P.S.  you're not being too hard on the Beaver, are you?  Sorry, hadda throw that in

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 12:05:46 PM   
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I agree with what you have said junecleaver ... except that at 34 i still do not feel i am "grown up" ... i am not sure age needs to be part of the Daddy/little girl dynamic. I think it is greatly influenced on personal dynamics.


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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 12:49:17 PM   
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i haven't read through this thread yet, so please excuse me if i repeat what someone else mentioned. i think one reason older doms prefer younger subs could be that the younger a woman is the less likely she is to have formed a set outlook on life. The dom has a better chance of molding a younger sub than he does an older one.  Younger subs also, generally if they are looking specifically for older doms, are looking for someone they can look up to to guide and direct them in their life.  Maybe these doms are looking for someone who will be more reliant on them. So many reasons why - maybe they just want a hot young bod too

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 12:56:45 PM   
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Why do you, Dom, want a young woman sub/slave 
if you are over 40?



 
Lemme comment on the flip side of this ... I, as a submissive, picked a younger Dom (10 years younger than me) ... all personal preferences for each individual person

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 2:08:14 PM   
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greetings robert,

i agree that for some people, it can be a kink. it is not always a kink. for us, it is not a kink, it just sort of happened...neither of us were looking for an age gap relationship, and it's not why we got together

annabelle.


Ok Annabelle, your partner does not have the young age kink, as he did not choose, it just happened..........

I for one do have the kink for 40+ (my wife was 38 when we met, 39 when we wed, I made an exception but it still was kink!) and don't find anything wrong  with age kink as I'm sure anyone worshiping the BDSM gods do not either. RL.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/13/2007 2:46:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shyinini

Why do you, Dom, want a young woman sub/slave 
if you are over 40?
So many reasons, I am sure as many reasons as there are Dominants.Some thoughts:..Maybe because being with someone younger makes him feel younger again?..To see if he can?...Possibly thinks younger subs more malleable?..Trophy?..Men are very visual and face it,the young taut body better than the aging southward heading body...You name it so many reasons, but as with any preference still goes to simply that..preference..I have a preference for intelligience..and a thread was started about that and what was the criteria for intelligience...again..personal thought and preference on what denotes that...Tempting

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 7:07:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shyinini

Why do you, Dom, want a young woman sub/slave 
if you are over 40?


It is fairly obvious why older men are attracted to younger women... it is an evolutionary draw. A lot of men overcome this because what is between the ears is as important or more important than a young firm body. I think that the vast majority of men love to at least look at hot young things, it is the way they are built... to spread their seed far and wide....

Younger women find stability, security, experience, and financial benefits for their offspring in the older male...

This is not hard to understand.... the question for me is why certain men are able to overcome this need to chase fertile young women and be drawn to women that have been through similiar experiences. I am grateful it works this way often

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 12:14:02 PM   
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In my case, I much rather talk or interact with older men not because of their vast experience, but because they can keep a much interesting conversation. although I must say that some youger Doms can carry it with the same eloquence than many 40 year old one liners.

And...

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Sir lmao.  You feel You have a better intellectual interaction with a younger sub.  Sir what does that response say about Your intellect? 

minnetar



... I feel slightly offended by this statement, since age doesn't matter to me, but rather intelligence.




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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 1:06:01 PM   
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As an 18-25 submissive girl, I can say this in all truth...

I've found that a lot of people who say they only want younger girls are not really interested in BDSM, at least not on this site. [Though some are both true Dominants and into younger girls] But on the flipside, there is nothing wrong with wanting to pluck the apple from the tree instead of waiting for it to fall. I feel that many Doms are attracted to corrupting the innocent, so taking a younger girl would appeal to them.

Because I am so young, many Doms don't think I'm serious or that I am not very smart. But honestly, I am both intelligent and determined. When an older Dom complements me, I feel good about it. It means that I have come off mature and desirable, and this is always a good thing.

Edit:
I feel obligated to mention that the people I find attractive in our pop culture today are usually not sex-on-legs attractive and are much much older than I am. Older men are more mature and a lot nicer to be with, so I guess I am prejudiced towards the older Doms who want young fresh submissives.


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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 1:39:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PrincessEllie
Because I am so young, many Doms don't think I'm serious or that I am not very smart. But honestly, I am both intelligent and determined. When an older Dom complements me, I feel good about it. It means that I have come off mature and desirable, and this is always a good thing.


There we go--preach it, sistah!!

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 1:52:37 PM   
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Thank you very much, Mr. Faramir.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:01:03 PM   
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Another reason men like younger women is they are far easier to impress and don't have the skills to see if words and deeds match up.  Driving a fancy car and living in an apartment seems reasonable to a young girl, they don't get so surprised when your phone gets turned off because you forgot to pay the bill and it doesn't dawn on them that your money goes to a car  you can't afford and you don't have it together enough to buy a house.

A mature woman would look at those things and reject you in the blink of an eye.  Young girls are just happy to be with someone who isn't an asshole and who has enough money to pay for a decent dinner and it would never occur to them to discuss how your 401k is doing and whether or not you have one.

I enjoy looking at young women and they are fun to take to dinner but I want to wake up next to a woman my age with whom I can discuss the morning paper.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:11:12 PM   
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Another reason men like younger women is they are far easier to impress and don't have the skills to see if words and deeds match up.  Driving a fancy car and living in an apartment seems reasonable to a young girl, they don't get so surprised when your phone gets turned off because you forgot to pay the bill and it doesn't dawn on them that your money goes to a car  you can't afford and you don't have it together enough to buy a house.

A mature woman would look at those things and reject you in the blink of an eye.  Young girls are just happy to be with someone who isn't an asshole and who has enough money to pay for a decent dinner and it would never occur to them to discuss how your 401k is doing and whether or not you have one.

I enjoy looking at young women and they are fun to take to dinner but I want to wake up next to a woman my age with whom I can discuss the morning paper.


Not all young females are so caught up into being mislead. In fact many aren't. That's a really bad statement to make. I think you don't know very many young women.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:13:50 PM   
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Another reason men like younger women is they are far easier to impress and don't have the skills to see if words and deeds match up.  Driving a fancy car and living in an apartment seems reasonable to a young girl, they don't get so surprised when your phone gets turned off because you forgot to pay the bill and it doesn't dawn on them that your money goes to a car  you can't afford and you don't have it together enough to buy a house.

A mature woman would look at those things and reject you in the blink of an eye.  Young girls are just happy to be with someone who isn't an asshole and who has enough money to pay for a decent dinner and it would never occur to them to discuss how your 401k is doing and whether or not you have one.

I enjoy looking at young women and they are fun to take to dinner but I want to wake up next to a woman my age with whom I can discuss the morning paper.


Right, exactly man, game on!  Young women are all dopes, and any guy with a nicer car than you must be a disaster waiting to happen.  I mean, they couldn't actually just be hard-working and succesful, right?

And dude, you nailed it with your observation that it takes a woman in her 40s to discuss the morning paper.  Yonger girls just want to talk about text messaging and their nails/hair, right?  I tell you what, I got my eye on you, I'm learning volumes here.  Shit, I can't believe I wasted time on stupid stuff like developing commercial real estate, when I could have invested in renfaire shirts and St Andrews crosses like you.

Keep up the brialliant stuff my man!!!

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:13:57 PM   
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Personally I just don't tend to LIKE people my own age. I grew up qucik due to things out of my control and I enjoy an older crowd. Yes there are some people my age I get along with but few and far in between. At lot of it for me is energy flow...and older Dommes have a certain energy flow that I can relate to much easier than that of a younger woman. But that's just me.

Dopey and childish as it may seem...since I don't have a head enough for my own too see past the car and house that isn't paid for yet. And forget that I'm actually helping pay for said things too...oh my I forget what I don't know.


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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:15:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Another reason men like younger women is they are far easier to impress and don't have the skills to see if words and deeds match up.  Driving a fancy car and living in an apartment seems reasonable to a young girl, they don't get so surprised when your phone gets turned off because you forgot to pay the bill and it doesn't dawn on them that your money goes to a car  you can't afford and you don't have it together enough to buy a house.

A mature woman would look at those things and reject you in the blink of an eye.  Young girls are just happy to be with someone who isn't an asshole and who has enough money to pay for a decent dinner and it would never occur to them to discuss how your 401k is doing and whether or not you have one.

I enjoy looking at young women and they are fun to take to dinner but I want to wake up next to a woman my age with whom I can discuss the morning paper.


Not all young females are so caught up into being mislead. In fact many aren't. That's a really bad statement to make. I think you don't know very many young women.



No no--he knows it all.  Just look at his rayon shirt!  That's someone who knows their shirt.  Errr, shit.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:17:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Faramir


No no--he knows it all.  Just look at his rayon shirt!  That's someone who knows their shirt.  Errr, shit.

Ah, that made me snort out loud. 'grats.
I hope he stays away from open flame...


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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:18:23 PM   
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so I see...and stand corrected. How foolish it is for lil me to actually have a thought of my own. I'll hush now and learn of my own thoughtlessness.

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RE: 18-25 yr old subs - 5/14/2007 2:44:59 PM   
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I enjoy looking at young women and they are fun to take to dinner but I want to wake up next to a woman my age with whom I can discuss the morning paper.


That is such bull!!  I'm 26 and I can talk on any range of topics, particularly social and economic issues.  You might lose me in engineering or computers, but I can usually ask relevant questions to further my understanding.  

On the other hand, I've talked to an occasional 40 and 50 year old person who just doesn't get it.  It has little to do with age, and has more to do with how open you are to listening and learning from others. 

To the OP, I can't answer for the Doms, but I know as a sub I tend towards an older Dom.  But more particularly experienced ones.  I want someone who is responsible and has knowledge of whatever they chose to do before they take me on as a submissive. 

Peace out,

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