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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 8:53:35 PM

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OMFG here we go again

Ok i'm 22 and honestly really starting to get sick of these threads popping up out of nowhere.

i am a 24/7 slave, i am dead serious about what i do, and it's not just about the sex.
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Here is an example of another risk that will have to be considered when considering a younger partner (dominant or submissive). Tact and grace. I have had the pleasure of meeting a fair amount of people in the Lifestyle, both dominant and submissive. No one has ever contradicted the statement: "the actions of a submissive is directly reflected onto the dominant."

Travelino

<< still going through the thread. May have to make some popcorn soon!! >>

I resisted commenting on that thread, it was hard.
{Many here seem to believe that a submissives actions are not a reflection on their Dominant}....I certainly do!
A submissive is a reflection of their Dominant.
Bravo! damnit Bravo!

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 8:54:50 PM

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Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them.

Hello SimplyMichael. Me neither! hell, they're just starting to be real interesting when they hit forty! Also being "younger" does not automatically equate to having a tight killer body, and you can cancel the "superior dirty mind" for most of that set.

Anyway, I find that keeping to the "lovely savvy forties" practically cuts my "explaining time" to nil. Ok, I'm lazy. RL.

PS: For those who do not know me, I have an "40 year old age kink". Other age groups are just as good, bla, bla, bla, and please, just tell me where I pay the fine.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:08:18 PM

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"Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them."

OHHHHHHH but those nice young tight bodys are such a comfort on a cold winters night, at that time I am not exploring their brain but their warm sweet bodys smiles,I leave the 40"s brainics to the rest of you,,bounty

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:10:25 PM

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Travelino? why do so many of the Dominant men seem sweeter than the so called
submissive males?
....sounds like my next thread!

Good question, and likely a good thread title!! I have no answer for you, MzMia, yet, I may check up on your next tread

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:15:28 PM

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Travellino and Roberto - your posts brought a smile to my face. I love when men "get" it.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:15:42 PM

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Thank you, kind Sir, I feel it coming soon.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:33:08 PM

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What is too young to be a submissive?
17 and younger.
I wonder about men in their 40's/50's/60's taking up with these tender young
women in their early 20's.
They are so young and impressionable, especially if they are only 18.
Would you want your daughter 19, moving in and becoming a slave to a man of 50?
It wouldn't be my choice either way.
Let's hear it.

I don't feel age has any baring on a relationship, be it this lifestyle or vanilla....and i've raised my kids with the same idea. It's how the people involved feel about each other that counts. I have 2 girls, one 21 the other just turned 17. For the oldest...she's already shown her colors....she is a switch, but leans more to the submissive side. She has a fiance who is dominate, but enjoys submitting once in a while to make her happy. He is only 19. Both are bsically new to the life and often come to me for advice.
My youngest....i'd shoot anyone, no matter the age at this point. But once she is of legal age...I step aside. If she wants to spend her time with someone in his 50's...it's her choice. Would I object to it? Not as long as he treats her right and takes care of her. But the first time he hurts her...he's mine.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:37:06 PM

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Hutch, well stated.
Any age is okay, but the first time he hurts her...he's mine.
priceless

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:44:04 PM

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Travelino? why do so many of the Dominant men seem sweeter than the so called
submissive males?
....sounds like my next thread!

Hello MzMia. I agree, that would make a great thread.

I have met male and female submissives. Now, I am very straight in my orientation and I was once told by one experienced gay person that I don't "register" on anyone's "radar" (his way of saying relax! not a compliment). I am saying this so you will not think the male subs did not know that I was straight and prefered female subs.

I was more than impressed by most of these male subs, very charming on the whole. Females were "less" charming on the whole in comparaison.

As for doms and dommes, they tend to be more "reserved" with subs around. I know I am. I guess the "good" behavior stems from synergy and that is one of the positive things I love about the lifestyle.

As for posts? I think this happens: Most of the "motivation" for being charming is not there. I think male subs let go harder because it's a release from all that self disciplinary control. From what I know, "most" styles of domination with males is a little "stricter" in the "self control" department than what you have as a whole for female subs (in general, please I know about exceptional exceptions).

As for dominants being "sweeter", I think they tend to not want to get into a dom bashing frenzy... I'm kidding. Doms/Dommes in general are "responsability" oriented and you can't take a break from that. Either you are, or you are not.

Sometimes when you see a male dom go after another for some alleged BS, you see it is practically the same "uncharming" thingie. Testosterone ( I know, females have testosterone too!) is a weird wonderful thing.

This make sense? Just musing. RL.

PS: Sorry for being off topic. This undisciplined dom just had to answer this.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:48:34 PM

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Thank you Robertolapiedra, for another wonderful thought
provoking thread.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 9:59:31 PM

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"Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them."

OHHHHHHH but those nice young tight bodys are such a comfort on a cold winters night, at that time I am not exploring their brain but their warm sweet bodys smiles,I leave the 40"s brainics to the rest of you,,bounty

Hello BOUNTYHUNTER. Thank you, thank you, thank you....thank you! If I see some young hot bods looking for "wicked", they will properly be refered to you! Just send me the dirty minded braniacs! yes, yes!.RL.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/24/2007 10:07:26 PM

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Hutch, well stated.
Any age is okay, but the first time he hurts her...he's mine.
priceless

Thank ya Maam

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 7:35:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

"Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them."

OHHHHHHH but those nice young tight bodys are such a comfort on a cold winters night, at that time I am not exploring their brain but their warm sweet bodys smiles,I leave the 40"s brainics to the rest of you,,bounty

Hello BOUNTYHUNTER. Thank you, thank you, thank you....thank you! If I see some young hot bods looking for "wicked", they will properly be refered to you! Just send me the dirty minded braniacs! yes, yes!.RL.

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Reading this, one might get the impression that neither of you think young women have brains... I haven't seen much evidence that a 20 year old girl without much upstairs will become a 40 year old 'brainiac'. Age can bring maturity, but it doesn't make people smarter, and I've known some brilliant young women. I've also met mature, centered, civilized, polite women in their twenties, and crabby, bitchy, whiny, paranoid, passive-aggressive women in their forties- not really seeing a strict corelation of age and maturity either. And, just to be fair, I've a met a few 40-year olds with incredibly tight little bodies.... Age just isn't a reliable indicator of any of the things I find interesting or attractive about women.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 9:10:08 AM

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What is too young to be a submissive?
I wonder about men in their 40's/50's/60's taking up with these tender young
women in their early 20's.
They are so young and impressionable, especially if they are only 18.
Would you want your daughter 19, moving in and becoming a slave to a man of 50?
Let's hear it.

This is actually something that has bothered me a little bit. A local munch group I would like to go to is 21+. I was told by one of their board chairs (who was someone that despite that opinion I still have respect for) that people under 21 are not mature enough to be into BDSM or D/s. I'll turn 21 in November. I guess within that five month time span I will magically become mature enough to 'munch' with the old folks. ;) And I will have been with my Dominant for almost a year. I think that there are plenty of immature 18-21 year olds out there. But I think that we are growing up in a unique time period, exposed to a lot more information than those of previous generations. So maybe what a 18 year old was a generation ago is not what an 18 year old is today. And when I have a daughter, I know I will probably have issues letting go. What if moving in with a 50 year old man is what truly fufilled her? I would want her to be fufilled.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 9:46:00 AM

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Haven't had the chance to read all the posts, so this may have been commented on already. How about turning the question around. Do you think women in their 20's are better off with men their own age? We all know that at that time most women are further up the maturity ladder than their male counterparts. I would think that if would be a much healthier, and mature relationship with an older man who (hopefully) has had the time and experience to know who he is, what he wants, and how to be responsible. The younger ones are all driving hormones, which can lead to very unwanted outcomes.

Of course, this is not saying there are not responsible young men, any more than saying being older equates to being more responsible. We all know screwups of all ages. Statistically though, older men are more likely to have their life put together than a 20 something guy.

Bottom line, as I have seen posted already, age is not the most important factor here. Responsibility is. If an older man, even in his 50's, takes on a 20 year old women, and he has the life experience, training and self-control, he is going to be a much better role model as a Dominant and as a man.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 10:25:48 AM

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Would you want your daughter 19, moving in and becoming a slave to a man of 50?
Let's hear it.

As much as i would like to say i would be more concerned about the way he treated her..... i have this strange feeling that i would want to hunt him down and castrate him...

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 10:51:37 AM

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This is actually something that has bothered me a little bit. A local munch group I would like to go to is 21+. I was told by one of their board chairs (who was someone that despite that opinion I still have respect for) that people under 21 are not mature enough to be into BDSM or D/s.

That seems prety weird.... I know that there are munches that are held at bars and hence they need a 21+ limit. The munch I used to go to in DC was at a bar and they got a special deal with the bar tender to let 19 and 20 year olds in as long as we vouched that they weren't going to drink anything....
I got involved in the scene at 21, but I was interested in in long before then... I know plenty of young (under 21) people who are seirous about BDSM. I would rather give them information so they don't do something stupid and get preyed upon than simply say they're too young for things...

*steps off high horse*

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 12:33:56 PM

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This is actually something that has bothered me a little bit. A local munch group I would like to go to is 21+. I was told by one of their board chairs (who was someone that despite that opinion I still have respect for) that people under 21 are not mature enough to be into BDSM or D/s.

That seems prety weird.... I know that there are munches that are held at bars and hence they need a 21+ limit. The munch I used to go to in DC was at a bar and they got a special deal with the bar tender to let 19 and 20 year olds in as long as we vouched that they weren't going to drink anything....
I got involved in the scene at 21, but I was interested in in long before then... I know plenty of young (under 21) people who are seirous about BDSM. I would rather give them information so they don't do something stupid and get preyed upon than simply say they're too young for things...

*steps off high horse*

My Dominant is a greeter for the group. He's 22. He explained that the group used to meet in a bar and therefore had to enforce an age limit. They now meet in a park but members of the board refuse to change the age limit. I agree with you though. If this is all about informed consent and knowledge is power yada yada, I can't imagine why you would chose to withhold that from others unless you are afraid of something.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 12:39:31 PM

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MzMia, thank you for posting quite a thought provoking question.
Thank you Quivver, I like to try to ask thought proviking questions.
I "discovered" this lifestyle after the age of 35, and I like to get a variety of opinions.
I really don't think I could have handled all the attention young women get in this lifestyle, in my early 20s.
Also, as someone with a real stake in young people I like to hear a variety of few points.
One day this may be a real issue for me!

When I first read this, all the usual and negative thoughts came to mind as the pictures of my 3 (adult) female UM’s flashed through my head. But I realized that some of that negativity did not apply, so I gave this some thought prior to posting. I have noticed that 2 out of the three show submissive tendencies, the other would be best identifying as a Domme. Of the two who I feel are submissive by nature one is 19, the other 25.

Keeping in mind that every Dom is different and depending on their life talents I can not say that an older Dom would be wrong, especially for the older one. I do not believe there is a magic age or a cut off where age is concerned as long as the Dominant was equipped with the knowledge and patience to direct her while bringing out the best in her. Finding the right one would actually be no different then it is for myself.

The other …. She’s a bit switchy but I believe it’s caused by self protection. She has not lived a lot of life yet, but the life she has lived she has shown the ability to be self disciplined and excel. Although often I notice that she searches for a safe spot that a well disciplined Dominant could easily fill. Age in her case would matter, only because she has trust issues with older men. I’ve often wished someone like MadRabbit would appear in her life. Someone like him I think would fit the bill perfectly.

I don't think I would be thrilled if my young person brought home a man twice her age and
told me she was thinking about moving in with him and would be his submissive.
I would get to know him WELL, because I would want to be close to anyone my young people are with
whether their mate is 20 or 70.
I would also make sure her name was down on his life insurance policy, home and a few other things.
Just in case.

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RE: Is she too young for you? - 6/25/2007 1:14:47 PM

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*shrug* When I was 19 I had a relationship with a woman who was in her late 40s. I had another in my early 20s. Of course I was young and impressionable, that's why I sought out people who could teach me things -- so that they could make an impression!

Sometimes the fun of a relationship is in helping someone grow, and in doing so reminding yourself what is exciting that you may have begun to take for granted in your own life. Sometimes the fun is in being with someone who already knows what they're doing and isn't fumbling around as much as you are.

The notion that young women are in some way a special class of people who shouldn't be given the opportunity to learn or experience what they like seems strange to me. Most women under 25 who I know laugh at older men trying to hit on them -- obviously the ones who don't are finding something personally appealing about the situation.

Greetings Folks,

This was a good post. Nothing about mommies or daddies being insecure with their own identities because their daughter is shacked up with who the hell ever, that was older by however many years. Most generally we worry more about things from our own personal view point and how it effects us rather than how it effects the people actually engaged within the relationship. By the way, how many of you out there when thinking aboutthe old man with the young girl, the first thing coming to mind is how that old pervert is FUCKING her? Well duhhhhh......she was gonna be fuckin' someone silly. And like this girl pointed out, she could have been learning about herself or struggling to simply survive. College/ higher learning isn't always in an institution. Hey moms and dads, teach her to choose well and not for your benefit, but rather her own. I know this bites the ole nipple rather hard but it's time to live the reality you claim as your own.

Live well,

Bull

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