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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/6/2007 2:12:12 PM

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I am no man's enemy, unless they choose to believe it so.

Unless they commit the horrible human error of losing control to anger.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/6/2007 2:29:00 PM

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Finding a 'true Master' is an exercise in "reverse engineering". The reality is, you really aren't searching for a 'true Master' you are seeking YOUR 'true Master'. To do so you have to build a model, take it apart to identify the pieces, and then go out and try to observe people displaying a few or some of those pieces. It works the same for finding your own 'true sub', 'true slave', 'true switch'. You have to know what you seek in detail then don't compromise until you find it.

It may not be likely you'll find all the traits and parts laying on the sand. A part may be 'exposed' but some digging is involved. The 'digging' is time. Even the best 'actor' can't act forever. Eventually all the parts, even the ones you wish you didn't see, are disclosed. You really have to let time pass and observe.

Get your "ideal" in your mind and in your 'gut' - and trust both. Write down your 'ideal' image and refer to it regularly. Don't discount anything observed and pay attention to the reaction to "bad times" as well as good.

Your demands or requirements are as valid as anyone coming from the other side of the flogger. There is a "one true way" for you, don't compromise it; just find someone who compliments it.

My apologies to erin for 'tatting' a tit. I happen to enjoy that sort of thing - and I believe it was consensual.

I agree completely. The distincition I am trying to make is searching for that "true Master" or "true slave" isnt really any different then searching for your own ideal of a "perfect boyfriend" or a "perfect girlfriend". Both are still just simply human beings with their own flaws and imperfections.

It is my firm opinion that applies extraordinary fantasy traits to this ideal that make the person the height of "true Master perfection" without pragmatically remembering that this person is just another mere mortal like the rest of us leads to nothing but disapointment.

There is a huge difference between searching for "THE ideal" and searching for "the human being".

The fantasy is great, but the human factor is still there in reality...regardless of whether or not certain individuals like to present themselves to be without it online.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/6/2007 6:36:38 PM

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Nice visual.

laffs, ya dont know how hard that was for me to do. haha haha hardy hard. : P kinda 'pooky how long i worked on that. i love da color --so lifelike, fleshy.

you inspired it. may i have a dorito?

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/6/2007 7:04:32 PM

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i realize all ppl are different, and each Dom has their own personality but...
What are the immediate indications that one would be communicating with a true Dom?
What is the definitive nature of a Dom?

Anyone who calls him/herself a "Master" ... which is tantamount to claiming mastery over all knowledge of BdSm ... is blowing smoke up your ass non-consensually. A true Master knows s/he doesn't know everything and is willing to learn from anyone. A true Master has humility in his/her mastery. "Master" is a title of respect given by those who study under him/her ... who respect his/her skill, ability and extensive command of the subject.

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Does a Dom ever have trouble communicating their truth?
If a sub asks a direct question should they expect a direct answer?

Everyone has trouble communicating ... truth, feelings, where it hurts when the Dr asks, why they did such a stupid thing yesterday.
Everyone should expect a direct answer to a direct question EXCEPT, I would rather have the honest answer of "I don't want to answer/talk about that right now." rather than have someone evade an answer. And, I think it is perfectly acceptable to withhold some information at different stages of knowing someone. You certainly won't give up your phone#, address, SSN, place of business, license#, or bank account information to someone you just met -- BUT your husband/wife needs to know that information. Why would you give up such important info to someone online who you've never met? Who you might never meet? Who might turn out to be a major wierdo when you do meet them? There's nothing wrong with keeping a bit of insulation between yourself & someone who might do you harm if they had enough information about you. And, don't think that it hasn't, or couldn't happen. It's fine (& prudent) to answer direct questions that pertain to the relationship, mutual interests, limits, squicks, allergies, medical conditions that might affect the relationship or future play, # of kids, that your dog farts during meals ... just be careful about giving a stranger information that s/he could turn around & damage you if s/he had it AND proves upon meeting to be a whack job. And, if s/he gets pissed & goes away, give thanks that you dodged another bullet.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/6/2007 11:03:14 PM

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HOLY MACKEREL...what happened? I went to school for a few days and when i came back to check the message boards, a brawl had broken out.

jiminy Christmas. I was under the assumption that the question was asked by a sub who needed some guidance to follow to stay safe. The guidelines i gave were just that. Subs tend to be trusting souls and there are a number of creeps out there proclaiming to be "TRUE DOMS". Just some guidelines to help avoid them.

i a sleepy and am heading to bed...long day at work tomorrow. Happy birthday to all the newly aged. your walkers should be delivered soon. :)

now...off to bed...and play nice...ya hear? sheesh

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 1:58:54 AM

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True Master's are great and powerful beings of unimaginable granduer. If you wish to know where you might find such magnificient beings, then you should visit this link to find your truth.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 3:26:19 AM

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True Master's are great and powerful beings of unimaginable granduer. If you wish to know where you might find such magnificient beings, then you should visit this link to find your truth.

OH God CL...that is just disgusting

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 3:46:40 AM

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Oh that is just foul!!! please oh please CL warn me next time... now, I fear I shall never sleep.... icky!!

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 4:33:16 AM

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Rofl... you have a wicked sense of humor Sir.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 4:43:24 AM

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But interpret as you may (cos frankly my Dear.......)

Sing together- you all know the tunes......
(to Here we round the mulberry bush)
Here we go round the subby's (exquisite feline) cage, the subby's cage, the subby's cage.
Here we go round the subby's cage; on the Collar Me boards......

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble (look up Mac Davis's version)
When you' re such a twue Dom in every Way.

He can't wait to look in the mirror
He gets better looking each day......

Warm regards to all. Driver.

In response to this one, the quote thingy didn't work the first time...

i see you miss me Sir.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 5:49:50 AM

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guess i could put my profile too:

"im looking for a twue dom who knows nursery rhymes and read me bed time stories who will slowly debilitate my soul every day. only then will i know what it will be like to be twuely submissive..."

"Ding dong bell
Pussy's in the well
Who put her in?
"Little Johnny Flynn"

instead of the "bling" for the turn of the page, we will hear the crack of the whip!

"Crack"

"one, please Sir may i have another, i am still smiling."

"Who pulled her out?
Little Tommy Stout
What a naughty boy was that
Try to drown poor Pussycat,
Who ne'er did any harm
But killed all the mice
In the Farmer's barn!"

"Please Sir, may i read from the nursery rhyme book now?"

"I've no time to plead and pine
I've no time to wheedle
Kiss me quick, and then I'm gone
Pop! Goes the weasel"

*Puts fingers in ears, and sings loudly...*

"The Owl and the Pussycat went to sea
In a beautiful pea-green boat,
They took some honey, and plenty of money,
Wrapped up in a five pound note.
The Owl looked up to the stars above,
And sang to a small guitar,
"O lovely Pussy! O Pussy, my love,
What a beautiful Pussy you are, you are, you are,
What a beautiful Pussy you are."

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 8:15:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Notice - nobody's definition of 'true Master' included the requirement of needing sympathy for an alleged dead wife and son. Maybe now abuse of their memory or using them to advance your search for two slaves will end. Its disgusting to see them used; if they ever existed at all.

No manner of "love" would use the objects of that love as tools to fulfill a personal fantasy. One reference is a benchmark - daily reference is an advertisement ploy.

merc, where were you in my wife's hospital room when she and I discussed these matters?

When were you made executor of my wife's estate?

When did she contact you and instruct you to tear down her husband as he searched for a new love?

It would seem the answers are obvious: "... if they ever existed at all"

I suppose the photos I have of them and I together don't exist.

That I don't keep the pictures of my son and my wedding on the TV before me.

That my son's teddy bear does not sit upon my computer.

That all the mementos of our lives together are imaginary.

And that you have appointed yourself protector of non-existent people, just in case they did exist, even though you never knew them and have no idea what was said between my wife and I before the end ... what kind of arrogance does that take, merc?

What kind of arrogance does it take to tell me not to share with others the memory of my wife and child, merc?

What kind of arrogance does it take to presume to know what was shared between me and my wife, when you don't even believe she existed?

What arrogance does it take to tell the executor of her estate what he can and cannot share with others? Or to call that sharing "disgusting"? Or to claim that the sharing is an "abuse of their memory" when you don't believe they existed and never knew them?

By all means, merc, explain this to us.

Explain why you loved my wife better than I did, when you would deny she ever existed.

And while you're at it, merc, explain where you were when I was with my son every day, helping him overcome his autism. Explain how you honour his memory by denying his existence.

I'm sure we will all learn a lot from such an explanation.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 9:55:05 AM

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Jesus Christ Bobgkin. How maudlin can you be? Every single person here has probably experienced some form of personal tragedy. How dare you say you're sooo special and immune from criticism just because you flaunt yours?? Way to minimize other people's pain dude...some people want to grieve privately, not share their tragedies with the whole internet. Besides isn't that what livejournal is for?

You know I really think you might not be ready to move on. Seriously. You just want a collection of girls to distract you from the memory of the woman you loved. That's probably why you want 2 or 3 instead of just one...so things don't get too intimate.

That's really not fair to someone looking for something real.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 10:43:19 AM

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Jesus Christ Bobgkin. How maudlin can you be? Every single person here has probably experienced some form of personal tragedy. How dare you say you're sooo special and immune from criticism just because you flaunt yours?? Way to minimize other people's pain dude...some people want to grieve privately, not share their tragedies with the whole internet. Besides isn't that what livejournal is for?

You know I really think you might not be ready to move on. Seriously. You just want a collection of girls to distract you from the memory of the woman you loved. That's probably why you want 2 or 3 instead of just one...so things don't get too intimate.

That's really not fair to someone looking for something real.

I agree.

Thus there is something wrong with your diagnosis, as it doesn't apply to me.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 11:43:07 AM

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Explain why you loved my wife better than I did,

Easy - I'm not abusing her memory by using it solicit 2 slaves to replace her.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 11:52:42 AM

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A true master has a picture of two elephants fucking next to anything he writes.

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 5:01:17 PM

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Explain why you loved my wife better than I did,

Easy - I'm not abusing her memory by using it solicit 2 slaves to replace her.

I think we really need to take a moment and reflect on the true genius presented here by Bobgkin.

Post after post, slaves learn that he is the teacher. That he is wise and experienced. That he is enlightened. That he is a man above men. That he is here to flush out all the fiflthy dominants on Collarme.com and set them straight....

He scares them out of contacting other dominants because they might be one of the many bad evil dominants who will suddenly go berserk in the middle of a BDSM scene and kill them...

He keeps them motivated by encouraging them to never give up there search for the True Master for there is in fact men out there who have achieved the level of uber True Masterdom...

He entices them to contact him with sympathy messages regarding his loss of his wife and child, thus giving him the perfect ice breaker...

But...never ONCE...does he ever claim to be a True Master, for a True Master is in fact humble and graceful....

He simply subtly lays down the clues, the evidence, allowing the slaves themselves to draw the one and only conclusion that there can possibly be...

He is, in fact, the True Master! Their search is over! They have found the Messiah!

Its so brillaint. Isolation, Motivation, Enticement, Evidence of the Truth....all done so subtly and cleverfully...

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 5:22:03 PM

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Oh. So is THAT what a true Master is? And all this time I was mistaken. How silly of me....

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 7:50:51 PM

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Its so brilliant. Isolation, Motivation, Enticement, Evidence of the Truth....all done so subtly and cleverfully... "

Manipulation. Well that is my over all running track record of past dealings with men in general... Bob has to be my soul mate...

"This is the cat that killed the rat
That ate the malt that lay in the house that Jack built."

Now, i am looking for a cow with a crumpled horn, i am worried....

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RE: How to tell a true Master? - 9/7/2007 8:52:58 PM

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ooww owww and another... (can we stop the tenseness in this post please... it is making kitty nervous)

I'm Only A Cat

I'm only a cat,
and I stay in my place...
Up there on your chair,
on your bed or your face!

I'm only a cat,
and I don't finick much...
I'm happy with cream
and anchovies and such!

I'm only a cat,
and we'll get along fine...
As long as you know
I'm not yours... you're all mine!

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