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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112
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So how come I'm not as much an expert as you guys who don't want others to do gunplay? If you are as reckless with guns as you are with words, that would be a major reason why right there.
LOL, I see irony doesn't travel too well.
I've been called alot of things, in relation to guns, but never reckless. But then those doing the calling usually know me  .
Interesting that you find my words reckless!
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Didn't see where InkedMaster said anything other than "Yes I would say it is definately RACK" not that anyone shouldn't incorporate a gun in their play, just that the majority opinion is to not do it.
The risks are obvious.
Indeed they are.
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A gun is the only item you listed whose sole purpose, and when used as designed, is to kill.
Sorry if this seems to be picking on you or being pedantic, but that is actually not true. The original purpose of a gun may have been to kill. However for a very long time now, guns have also been designed for things like target shooting. My .22 rifle was designed, intended to be used and manufactured as a target rifle.
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Knives, canes, whips, automobiles, and electricity all are designed to serve good and useful purposes, and are only deadly when not used as designed or when used carelessly.
Again not accurate. Many knives are/have been specifically designed to kill. Knives have a far, far longer history as deadly weapons, than guns do. The dagger was a very popular assassin's weapon, both pre and post the invention of guns. In fact, on a historic scale, the gun is a relatively new weapon.
Rope also has a longer history than guns of killing people.
For some, it is the very fact that a gun or a knife, or whatever, is so potentially dangerous, that is the turn on. I very definately do not feel I have any right to tell them that they should or should not find them, or anything else, erotic.
Guns also serve a good and useful purpose.
In the context of BDSM gunplay, the only time a gun will injure or kill is when it is used carelessly.
So from that perspective, and your next comment not withstanding, they are no different to e.g. knives.
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A gun is different.
That is very true. It has a much different effect for those who are into gunplay than anything else. It also elicits a far more emotive response when discussed.
Guns also need a different set of safety measures.
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This is a forum. Your opinion is just as valid as the other people posting their opinions.
Again, I'm in complete agreement with you.
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Let's face it, anyone who wants to incorporate gunplay into their scene is going to do it regardless of anyone's opinions but the nature of a forum is that there will be a wide variety of opinions.
I certainly understand your point here, though I'm not convinced it's accurate. Some people are influenced by the opinions voiced in forums such as this one.
There is a good argument to say that if someone is put off an idea by what's said in a forum, then they were not really interested in the first place.
My view, however, is more is it right to influence someone with inaccurate or misleading information and/or emotive comments on a subject.
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For the record, i have never had firearms incorporated into a scene as a weapon. i was once fucked by a long barrelled .44 and it was hot and erotic. We both examined that the clip was removed, we both examined twice that the chamber was empty. The gun was test fired three times to make sure there wasn't a round in the chamber even after examined. The safety was ON. The ammunition was left in a different room and i was definately not blindfolded nor bound. Now that i have bragging rights i have no desire to ever "play" with firearms because i was taught they are never ever ever ever toys.
I genuinely thank you for this part of your post especially. It shows again that gunplay can be done safely and is enjoyable for those who enjoy it. More importantly it comes from someone who has chosen not to include gunplay in their kink.
You enjoyed the experience of gunplay. Both you and your partner ensured that it was done safely and now you are making an informed and educated decision about gunplay in the future. That's excellent. I'm pleased you had a good experience. I post in the full knowledge that those who oppose gunplay are highly unlikely to ever change their mind. I would like everyone to have the same opportunity that you and I have had, and be able to make an educated and informed decision, based on accurate information.
Look at it from a different perspective, it was far far safer for you to be fucked by a long barrelled .44, than it would have been with a knife!
My point is that we shouldn't be trying to dissuade people from trying something, simply because we, or a majority of those on CM who felt able to respond, do not like it.
I also think we have a moral responsibility, when asked for advice, to mention the potential dangers and safety precautions. However not to do so in a judgemental, inaccurate or unbalanced way.
Sorry if this seems to be picking on you and with all respect, it appears that your posts have been primarily your opinion on how people should and should not post on the forums and you do so in a judgemental, inaccurate and unbalanced way.
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