CuriousLord
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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx Well there are so many different views on when is it viable life. I believe that life begins at conception, at the very least. But I know not alot of people believe that. It's one of those things were people are just uneducated. There's this period we're in where religion's dying off yet people aren't quite educated enough to understand morality still. (Previously, religious mandates forced people to obey morality; they didn't have to understand it, they just did it. Now, they don't have to, and most don't understand. Since not everyone feels it when it's inconvinent for them, this causes the "pro-choice" movement.) A value within a couple of orders of magnitude of a human life begins to grow at conception, so far as my best model begins. This qualifies as "murder" in a mild sense in abortion even the moment after conception, rapidly growing as time passes. quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyLynx And even if I believed that abortion should be outlawed I would have to think what about in cases of rape/incest? Medical reasons? It should still be a personal choice. Sure, a personal choice in those cases. Not all cases, though. quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyLynx As for birth control not being outlawed, well alot of people also said that Hitler wouldn't amount to anything, then Boom! he was elected Chancellor. So never say never. (personal rule.) Hilter used fear to rule. He told people that they'd lose their God-given rights if they didn't take liberties to protect them. Liberties that happened to include putting down others. I'd ask you to consider this parallel more closely. quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyLynx And please don't take this the wrong way but I don't think that men should have much of a say about what we do with our bodies. Yes, yes. I know, sexism is only a natural impulse, I suppose. But, ask yourself: how would you feel if a male rapist told you that you shouldn't tell him what to do with his body (i.e., his penis)? You don't give a damn about his penis, right? Only what he's doing to his victim. I care about the abortion victims. I don't give a damn about the woman's body, so long as it doesn't screw up things for the victim's body. quote:
ORIGINAL: LadyLynx Unless the woman in question is married to the father of her baby (Though definately willing to discount that if there was history of abuse.) Very different subject, so let's not get off topic. There's the whole question with the greater relationship of the mother to the child by being the one to have to bear it. I'd state my position here that this relationship is greater, not absolute. The man, regardless of marital status, has both an obligation and an interest in the offspring, even if it is not as significant as the mother's. I can not tolerate the sexists that would deny the man his rights here.
< Message edited by CuriousLord -- 10/7/2007 12:00:45 AM >
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