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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Tell him, MoGa!

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Just for future reference... everyone keep their grubby mitts off my dots and dashes! *grinz*

Calla

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

I don't deal well with lies, even "white" ones.  The fastest way to earn yourself an express ticket out of my life, with extreme prejudice, is to lie to me.  Omission counts.  In my case, it is never acceptable to lie to me.  I would rather hear unpleasant truth.  I also do my best not to lie to others.  I won't say I don't ever lie, but I work to tell as few as possible.   

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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx
how many of those who refuse to ever tell a lie, have told a 5 year old there is no Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy?

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ORIGINAL: Briena

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

I don't deal well with lies, even "white" ones.  The fastest way to earn yourself an express ticket out of my life, with extreme prejudice, is to lie to me.  Omission counts.  In my case, it is never acceptable to lie to me.  I would rather hear unpleasant truth.  I also do my best not to lie to others.  I won't say I don't ever lie, but I work to tell as few as possible.   

Really?  So when you were pregnant and super emotional and asked if you looked ok you would have rather been told that you looked beat after your last puke spell than be told you are beautiful?

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Thats why I feel that there are always exceptions to the little white lie rule.  If your little white lie isnt going to hurt anyones feelings then its ok, especially if it is going to boost someones self esteem. 

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ORIGINAL: azropedntied
No  faeries , u know everytime you dont believe another dies ..

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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

how many of those who refuse to ever tell a lie, have told a 5 year old there is no Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy?

I never told him any of those things existed in the first place.  He didn't grow up believing in them and didn't hear about them until he started public school. 

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

~FR~ But I want to address Lady Pact's words here..

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I would also like to add that certain matters are not permissible to omit either.  Some things are too important not to mention.

 

There ARE times that I feel one should lie. I will tell you why I believe this. I have never been one to join in this type of thread because to me, it makes it too easy to pass judgments on those who say they wouldn't, or would, when given the right circumstances, it is amazing what one would do, or wouldn't do, to protect a loved one. When is it acceptable to lie? When there is someone holding you at knife point and asks if there is anyone else in the house? Tell me now you wouldn't lie? I would and did. But this isn't the lie I want to talk to y'all about. Yes, I have had my share of lying. Lying to save my own life as well as that of my sister's, but I digress.
 
I took care of my brother when he was dying. I slept in his room on a love seat for 23 days, waiting for hiim to take his lasst breath with Hospice coming every other day bringing meds to keep him comfortable. My mother, who I cared for, for years, (before making the hardest decision to place her in a nursing home for fear of her burning my house down while I was at work) called on Christmas day and asked if I was going to come and visit her. I couldn't. I couldn't leave my brother, so I told her that I had a bad flu. My brother requested that I didn't tell her about how truly sick he was, so I didn't.
 
My mother had Alzheimer's and constantly asked when I was coming to visit, even when I just saw her that afternoon. When my brother finally died on Jan. 23rd. (The day after a very good friend of mine died) I didn't have the heart to tell my mother. I couldn't. She would ask me the next day, is Paul coming to see me soon? And I would pat her hand and tell her, you remember mom, Paul has the flu. For a month before he died I said that.
 
Then I got a call from the nursing home telling me that my mother was at the hospital for me to get there right away. I go and make the decision to put her in Hospice. I was still reeling from my brother's death. In fact, I had just returned from his funeral when I got the call about my mom. On her final day, a few days after goijng to Hospice, she says to me "Where is Paul?". I said the same thing I had been saying for weeks. He has the flu, mom, don't you remember? She died later that day..and all I could think of, was "Won't she be surprised to see him in Heaven?" She would know I lied and that I should have told her. Yes, I lied, to protect her. How would you like to hear each day that your only son has passed away? And have the same reaction every time you hear it?
 
Is it ever acceptable to lie?
Is it acceptable to kill, yourself or another?
Is it acceptable to whore yourself out?
What is acceptable and what isn't?
Who are we to say?
 
You would be surprised what is acceptable under extreme circumstances. So don't be so quick to answer this question, the life you save by lying about it, may be yours or someone's you love.
 
Edited to fix typo..blah..

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Zooming in on BDSM, in the context of a BDSM relationship, will you accept and/or understand your partner lying to you in any fashion or is this an utterly reprehensible act for which there is no forgiveness?  There is no right or wrong answer here.  I'm curious as to people's thoughts.

< Message edited by YourhandMyAss -- 8/21/2008 1:07:28 AM >

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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx


So..here's a question.. how many of those who refuse to ever tell a lie, have told a 5 year old there is no Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy?
poenkitten

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zoming in on BDSM, in the context of a BDSM relationship, will you accept and/or understand your partner lying to you in any fashion or is this an utterly reprehensible act for which there is no forgiveness?  There is no right or wrong answer here.  I'm curious as to people's thoughts. /

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< Message edited by YourhandMyAss -- 8/21/2008 1:00:33 AM >

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