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Subspace.....? - 1/18/2006 11:39:41 PM

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I have a question for all the subs, just what exactly do you mean by "subspace", and what sort of things does it take for you to achieve it? I am curious if it is different for everybody, or if it is a more or less universal experience.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/19/2006 12:13:19 AM

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You're probably going to get a different answer from every submissive/slave who responds, but here's mine. First, to get there takes a whole lot of pain for me. And not just any kind of pain. I need the baby steps first building up to intense and overwhelming. When it gets to that threshold where I can't take anymore, it's either die or fly time. Then, my body does it's shut down and refuses to acknowledge the hurt anymore and it's just a 'thing' at that point and it's all about my head. My endorphins are on over-drive pumping so hard and fast, that I am, virtually, beyond all feeling. While I'm still completely aware of everything around me, the pain is just... gone and I'm flying. Also, it's not 'just' the pain either... there also needs to be a catalyst that pushes me over that edge when I'm at the threshold. A hair pull works great for me, but also some whispered word from Himself will do it as well. That permission to let go. Of course, anytime I fly, I also have to deal with the crash and burn afterwards and that's where the aftercare comes in. I may get hysterical with laughter or tears.. or both as the endorphins drop and my body sorta goes.. what the fuck did you just do to me? lol The nicest thing about it is that Himself loves to take me there and then keep me there as long as possible. He likes me to crash and burn and know that's he's caused that reaction and he loves the fact that I'm usually so sore from the pain that for several days afterwards, the lightest touches are delightful reminders of the flight.

So, let me, quickly, explain what I mean by flight now. lol I relate it to having an out of body experience. It's like you are watching everything that's going on, you know it's you there, but since you can't feel any of the physical happenings, it's .. hmm.. almost like being a voyeur of your own scene. You're not in control of it, but it's damn fun to watch anyway. :) None of this probably makes any sense because it's sort of one of those things where you have to experience it for yourself to really get it.. and even then, it's so vastly different for everyone that no two are ever going to describe it in the same way or achieve it in the same way.

I do highly recommend it, however. For me, I can truthfully say... it's better than sex and I love sex! :)

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/19/2006 1:22:04 AM

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The idea as BaT suggests is ascending to another level.

It's often orgasmic, but doesn't have to be.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/19/2006 2:00:39 AM

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For me, subspace is rather easy and quick to get to, simply because my nerves decided to cross link consentual pain to exercise. Simply pushing myself to muscle failure will send me there.

I dont think I ever have been thrust into full blown pain- endorphin filled subspace, but I aim for that day and hope a singletail is involved.

For me, I end up feeling "half off planet Earth", almost like flying. I lose a bit of motor control and have a warm general feel good feeling all over. It is like being washed in a warm bath or being wrapped in a furry jacket.

For me though, it is all about the sensations themselves. I dont have a D/s component to my play, at least not yet, and I'm not sure I'm looking.

As a sadomasochist, I want to send someone there too. So far they may not come back down after a long while. I want to cause severe pain and have them begging for more, but alas, I lack enough experience to take it so far.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/19/2006 4:37:28 AM

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Wow sub-space i remember it well and long so much for it again.
For me it normally took a fair amount of pain too but what normally tipped me over the edge was hot wax.............
What some people describe as sub-space i normally describe as head or deep head space.
In head space, i can't make any decisions or answer even basic questions.My only concern was pleasing Her, which was always the case of course, but in head space it was a kind of deep desperation. If She had have been, and She wasn't, a bad Domme She could have easily broken my hard limits when i was in head space and i would have begged for more.
Sub-space, for me anyway, was as BitaTruble as already said for the most part.
Mistress would be dripping hot wax on me while i was blinfolded and restrained. i would be twitching and straining against the restraints. The burning heat of the wax dripping on me when all of a sudden the next drop wouldn't burn at all, it would just feel like someone touching me with a finger tip. That would be it then, i wouldn't feel another thing that She was doing to me unless She either brought me back or changed the sensation. In that case i would kind of fade back in slightly, 'hello something's changed here, i have no idea what, well She is still talking to me using Her soothing voice so things must be ok' and it was bye bye again.
Mistress said when i went into sub-space my body would collapse, all my muscles that were previously taut fighting against the pain would just relax like i had passed out.my breathing would slow and She could only ever get any kind of response from me by increasing the pain or changing the sensation.
When i came out of sub-space just as previosly mentioned, i would be in a state and after care was very much needed. i would cry like a baby, not because i was scared, hurt or upset but just through the pure emotion of what had happened.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/19/2006 6:17:01 AM

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Man I totally did this a month ago. I understand for the newbies, but if you've been on the site for awhile, could you please just try doing a search first?

Not that I'm against rehashing of material, but starting a whole new thread just adds to the basket. Try and attach a new relevant question to an existing thread.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/20/2006 7:27:09 PM

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Hi,

Not meaning to drag the forum on, so apologies to any who feel I have. I am realitivly new to experiencing "subspace" but had the experience driven home to me about a week ago.

My Dom/hubby and I went to Home Depot to buy some home improvement stuff (no *hint *hint here, just mundane chore stuff) and we went as regular hubby and wife, we weren't "in role", and I didn't feel subby at all. As we were walking down an isle, He saw these steel rods, of vairying sizes from about 1/2 the width of a pen to an inch across, and they were 3 feet long. He picked one up, turned to me and said, "This is what I want to weld into your collar." He said it all casually, like it was nothing. But for me, the world suddenly slowed down, and as I watched him put the rod back, choose another and weigh it's size against my neck, I stilled and grew very calm inside. And just like that, as I slipped away... into subspace.

He smiled at me, knowing what had happened, and as we continued through the store I found myself walking a step behind him, not talking, being VERY respectful towards him, not going my own way like normal. For me, subspace doesn't always come from pain, nor is it always sexual... although it's usually sensual. When he'd smile that knowing smile, or reach over and clasp the back of my neck to direct me, I'll feel sexual desire build, and wished at the time - to have not been wearing a white skirt with white panties... I ended up borrowing his coat to leave respectfully.

I hope that last wasn't too offensive... sorry if it was.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/20/2006 8:57:30 PM

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i totally agree with you subinutah that subspace can happen besides during times of excruciating pain. For example when Master whispers somthing nasty in my ear or even says it out loud i still feel it, even if it is a slap on the ass ect. Subspace happens differently to each individual it isnt all the same.

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RE: Subspace.....? - 1/23/2006 10:15:52 PM

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Every time one plays the circumstances that are required to go into subspace can be different. But there are a few guaranteed things that either set me up well or just flat send me...

Being suspended just plain gets me high. It starts when my Dom starts setting out bights of rope, and I am just stoned by the time he completes the tie and flies me.

If I am going to play hard, my favorite warmup is being towed to the cross, preferably across some distance, by my hair. Not like dragged lying on the floor, but silently, forcibly grabbed and firmly held by the hair while being pushed or pulled to the altar of my chastisement. My body gets the message that "it"s on now, bitch!" LOVE IT LOVE IT WANT SOME MORE OF IT! Or some variation thereof regarding the hair. Hair tied into the hogtie. Make me go down in "present" position and stand on my hair while messing with me so I move.

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