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RE: Looks and weight - 3/3/2009 4:43:13 AM   
Kana


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I hate to be the superficial one..
But looks do count for me.
I have to have a physical attraction. That in itself will not sustain a relationship, but it does have to be there.

I take time and effort to stay in shape, to try and be healthy, look good.
I think it represents a healthy ego.

Don't get me wrong.
Looks aren't everything.
I certainly cannot be with someone who is pretty on the outside and ugly on the inside.
But I'm a guy.
I'm a visual person.
I think in images more than words and ya know what?
I do like sexy women.

I won't ever knock anyone for what they like
I have buddies who like larger women ("Gotta have some meat on the bones")
others who like em scrawny ("Heroin chic is the best.")

but for me, HWP is the starting point

I want a girl who fits my bill
and damnitall,
I am just cranky enough to not settle.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/3/2009 12:54:05 PM   
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In my view, whilst looks and some weight can be an issue especially when combined with a bad fashion sense and not knowing what will make you look more attractive and what makes you look like a walking, talking clusterfuck from a refuge camp. I'm a large bloke (Old measurements) 6'4" and 287 lbs I tend to prefer black (I would no matter my size and shape anyway). My lady is a BBW and a number of my friends are BBP. Most have personalities which make others forget their size and they are comfy with it too. Unless your weight is a health issue and likely to cause medical issues then I tend not to worry too much. Some of the most beautiful people I know, looks wise, would make Charles Bronson look like a poster boy or male model. 

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/3/2009 2:28:06 PM   
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The answer for me, is too complex. I would have to show photos of the women in my life to illustrate and I won't do that.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/3/2009 5:35:41 PM   
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For me, physical attraction is an important aspect.  BUT -- my definition of "attraction" doesn't always match up with the small/petite/Hollywood version of attractive.

I prefer my women to have curves.  But not overweight to the point where it limits activities.   
I've got a thing for long hair, but it isn't a deal breaker.
A cute face will often draw my interest quicker than fake tits.
But, I waffle between being a leg man and a breast man.

I can't really nail down just exactly what makes me say "wow, she's beautiful" - it's different for different women.



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RE: Looks and weight - 3/4/2009 1:29:38 PM   
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Stephen says

It all depends on what I want. If I am not looking for a relationship, what I'm likely to go for will be based on physical attraction because I am not trying to build an emotional rapport. However, my chosen partner Maria engages me on many levels not just her amazing beauty and fabulous body but her deep mind.
Like a painting or sculpture that you can live with forever, I see something new in her everyday.


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RE: Looks and weight - 3/5/2009 2:05:52 PM   
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This is about personal preference. I am not attracted to heavy women. On the other hand, MANY women are not attracted to me because I do not have 30 inch biceps and long blonde hair. Maybe if I take steroids and get a hair transplant! 

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/5/2009 2:20:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: jakelogan01
each woman is different, inside and outside. and what matters in her cannot be measured in pounds


True: especially once you're inside.  


thanks Kittin...i WANTED to swallow my gum


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RE: Looks and weight - 3/5/2009 8:08:10 PM   
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quote:

How important is looks and weight for you?


I wonder why you equate weight with looks? I don't necessarily think they are connected. Weight, for me, runs into practical considerations - the eventual need for corrective hip- knee- and foot surgery, and eventually always having to fly standby, when you don't fit in a regulation airline seat. Those are issues that I find are not reasonable to expect me to deal with. I make much of whether someone recognizes that they have an eating disorder, and whether they are willing to see a doctor. And that applies not only to fat people, but as much to anorexics and bulimics. A sub of mine, a couple of years back, was bulimic - that in itself was not a huge deal for me, my first wife was a ballerina and anorexic, but those two kind of go together, but she insisted bulimia was not treatable, because bulimics were so very good at hiding their affliction. In general, I know lots of very nice overweight people - I just won't let people closely into my life if they have a problem controlling their urges.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/6/2009 1:13:53 AM   
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man, this is a delicate subject. First let me say, I am not a shallow person, I value more than looks alone. That said, some people like the big girls, I personally do not. I work out and keep my body fit, I see no reason why my partner cannot do the same. 30 mins - 1 hour in the gym 2 or 3 times a week is not that hard, and I will put money on it that it will make you feel fantastic. looks wise, of course they're important to me. 9 times out of 10 that is the first thing that gets my attention. But thats not to say that because I find you physically attractive, I want anything to do with you. If you have the personality of a spider, I have no interest.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/6/2009 1:57:41 AM   
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I only date woman with pictures on their profile. 
I dont care about weight so much.. But everyone has their own attraction formulas. and disqualifiers.

Some don't like profiles full of gripes.. if the gal has more problems then pleasures.. why would you pursue her.

If she looks like my grandma.. is it a immediate disqualifer ?  Maybe.. but she probably has other older guys who think she is a silver foxie..




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RE: Looks and weight - 3/6/2009 6:59:53 PM   
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quote:

1 hour in the gym 2 or 3 times a week is not that hard


True, Cypher, but you haven't been trying to maintain that regime for 30+ years - or squeezed it between meetings beginning at 7am, when the East Coast wakes up, and your last conference call around 9pm, when Hawaii shuts down. But - I have replaced the gym with the woodpile, and maintaining my five acres, you can do it if you are creative about how and when and where, I can't tell you how pleased I am I decided to buy this giant exercise yard. And I find that my doctor keeps me on my toes, health wise, that is a tool that many people do not use.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/6/2009 8:06:22 PM   
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I look for someone I think is pretty. However, my definition of pretty usually isn't what others think.  To be pretty to me, there has to be something on the inside and outside that gets me. Beauty to me isn't the "perfect" look, I like what I call the "real" look. The hardest part of seeing what i like is inside, sometimes it takes years to truly see what a person is really like.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/6/2009 9:11:10 PM   
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"Looks" in and of themselves are quite empty to me.  Having said that, however, one's state of health and well-being says volumes about who a person is inside, and for that reason I do not find myself drawn to women who have let their weight get out of hand.  Not for the shallow, physical reason, but for the reflection it makes on the mind and heart.  We need to take care of ourselves before being a part of someone else's life.  Though I completely respect and appreciate the differing tastes out there.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/7/2009 12:46:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: antipode

quote:

1 hour in the gym 2 or 3 times a week is not that hard


True, Cypher, but you haven't been trying to maintain that regime for 30+ years - or squeezed it between meetings beginning at 7am, when the East Coast wakes up, and your last conference call around 9pm, when Hawaii shuts down. But - I have replaced the gym with the woodpile, and maintaining my five acres, you can do it if you are creative about how and when and where, I can't tell you how pleased I am I decided to buy this giant exercise yard. And I find that my doctor keeps me on my toes, health wise, that is a tool that many people do not use.



Thats all it takes, doesn't have to be an actual gym by any means. The important thing is you ARE getting excercise. I started hitting the gym again about 6 months ago, and feel 10 times better. sleeping straight through the night, more alert during the day, its amazing. plus the physical results are a great perk too :)

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/7/2009 5:56:59 AM   
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quote:

Thank you so much,Masters/Dom/Ma´m for your replies.



Integrity tends to play a far greater role.  especially when I compared your 2 profiles and read poly was a hard limit in one , so being totally owned in one and searching in the other... that does not sit well with most most dominants and is far more of a concern than your weight




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RE: Looks and weight - 3/7/2009 6:48:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Juliannadelion

big girls are soft and supple and ever so much fun.  And when you get done playing, you can order chinese and know she's not just going to sit there and pick at it, but actually enjoy it!


I just loved this! 

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/7/2009 7:08:42 AM   
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Hmmm....
i dont have my pic on my page. Not because i have something to hide but it seems the more sincere long term seeking Doms write to me when there is no pic..and i seem to get one liners when my pic is there. im sure most of the women would agree with that.
My first time at a play party i was kinda shocked. Not just by what was going on but because some of these people were running around naked and were very comfortable with themselves and their bodies. It was quite eye opening. It was then that it really hit me that this is not about just the sexual attraction on the outside but consideres the whole person. Some of the male Doms were very handsome and yet when i looked at some of their mates i thought they didnt fit together. (alittle bit of the media rot in my mind) Some of the women were very very large and yet i was entraced by their ability to feel like complete sexual vixens. And the look on their faces and in their eyes while in a scene was almost overwhelming. It drew you into their world and for a moment you  glimpsed the struggle of Domination in its full form. i often glanced around the room and altho it wasnt said verbally i could tell that every man in there wanted those women...to BE there in that moment. Hunger in their eyes was unmistakeable. When one woman became so overtaken that her body orgasmed in full delight the room became frozen and silent. The men staring at her..fixated on her...and women too. She was a large girl and her husband was maddened in ecstasy.
It was then that sexuality for me took on a different thought. All my life ive struggled with being pretty enough or thin enough that i never really enjoyed sex. It was fun. It was nice..It was good..but i never learned that it was ok to really let go and be female. To glory in being a female and the pleasures that come with that is not something to take lightly.
i like men. i enjoy a man...to every part of Him. His scent, His voice, His tender roughness...but then there's that rare quality that speaks from His heart about morality and respect and being able to bring His girl to that moment when she can not contain her needs and wants but begs to be delivered.
Its more than just what He looks like.
We all have preferences. i like bigger men. Hairy, stocky and tall.....mmm mm mm. Its odd i like hairy men but bald is sexy to me...a little goat tee..is awesome...But do i HAVE to have all those things?..no. But He does have to have the ability to drive me insane in my mind for Him...to want to please Him.
i came here to this site to learn about myself and i really enjoy all of you. im learning alot by reading these forums and im thankful for the opportunity..
Yikes!...i just saw this was in the Ask a Master forum...im sorry but i had an opinion.....please forgive me..

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/7/2009 7:09:13 AM   
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quote:

I only date woman with pictures on their profile

i found this interesting...do you mean you only date women you meet online? 


As far as looks and weight...well i have more than average looks, and more than average weight. 

Seems they go togther nicely enough for plenty of men.  OP....don't worry. There is a lid for every pot(i think i got that one from lushy...) i will say though, that the things about me that The TDHO  probably finds most attractive are my mind...and willingness to serve Him.  But the hawtness and a killer rack don't hurt.....

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/8/2009 5:48:29 PM   
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I have found that women actually tend to pay more attention to looks than men do.   Partly this is because we know that as a woman ages, she will lose attractiveness.  Pregnancy in particular can be difficult to recover from.    We generally start asking out the most attractive women, then if they turn us down, slowly lower our standards till we get dates.  Women on the other hand do it the other way around.  They look at all the men that ask them out and pick the best looking ones.  At any given time, they are always raising their standards, while we are lowering ours.

I have found many woman have an absolute limit based solely on the height of men, hair, face, or weight of a man.  This limit applies to both whom they would play with and whom they would engage in a long term relationship.  I, and most of the men I know have a sliding scale.   For the right mind, we are more willing to put up with a lesser body.   Most importantly, we are willing to give a less attractive woman a chance.  We will date/play with her and if she impresses us, it can lead to more. 


The problem of course is that this means we date women we are not attracted to and end up dumping them if they don't impress us with their mind and character.     For all but the most attractive women, this leaves them with a shallow opinion of men.     Most men on the other hand get constantly rejected.   Hence the stereotypical 'fragile male ego'.  

But an experienced person knows the danger of accepting something as true, simply because it is a common belief.

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RE: Looks and weight - 3/9/2009 12:35:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MARAA Hello, i would like to ask you about weight and looks. How important is looks and weight for you? What are you looking after,if any particular? "The stereotype" girl with long hair, small or not so big body and angelface how important is that? How many of you would accept larger women? or opposite? How much do you also look for the inside? Thank you


Personally, it's all just flesh to me - in 30 years, everything's going to be downhill from where it is currently. I don't care so much about whether someone's a "big girl" or a "little girl"; what matters to me is that she's a healthy girl. I find extreme skinniness just as unappealing as extreme heaviness. Give me someone who takes care of herself, whatever weight range, and I won't have any complaints.

I've often turned to Kitten and told her that the sexiest thing about her is that big, sexy brain (and then proceeded to nom on her forehead until she swats me). I respond far more to someone's personality than to any physical characteristic.

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