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The "purpose" would be to uphold the Constitution, punish those who violated the law, and demonstrate to the world that America has not lost its principles.

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Huge difference between murder and what is percieved to be a war time action in the way of interrogation.... Tell me, do you believe it would be a healthy exercise and productive in some way? If it is to be productive tell me in what sense?

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

No more than what would take place, the damage done to further divide our country would not be worth the cost.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

illuminate the wrongdoing and... hopefully make their successors think twice about abusing their powers in our name.

The Memos
 
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The United States prosecuted some Japanese interrogators at war crimes trials after World War II for waterboarding and other methods detailed in the memos.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

The Memos

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The memos are also revealing about the practice of "waterboarding," about which there has been so much speculative rage from the program's opponents. The practice, used on only three individuals, involved covering the nose and mouth with a cloth and pouring water over the cloth to create a drowning sensation.

This technique could be used for up to 40 seconds -- although the CIA orally informed Justice Department lawyers that it would likely not be used for more than 20 seconds at a time.

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Sept. 11 planner waterboarded 183 times: report | U.S. | Reuters
Mon Apr 20, 11:26 am ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) – CIA interrogators used the waterboarding technique on Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the admitted planner of the September 11 attacks, 183 times and 83 times on another al Qaeda suspect, The New York Times said on Sunday.

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Interrogation Memos Detail Harsh Tactics by the C.I.A. - NYTimes.com
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department on Thursday made public detailed memos describing brutal interrogation techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency, as President Obama sought to reassure the agency that the C.I.A. operatives involved would not be prosecuted.

In dozens of pages of dispassionate legal prose, the methods approved by the Bush administration for extracting information from senior operatives of Al Qaeda are spelled out in careful detail — like keeping detainees awake for up to 11 straight days, placing them in a dark, cramped box or putting insects into the box to exploit their fears.

Some senior Obama administration officials, including Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., have labeled one of the 14 approved techniques, waterboarding, illegal torture.

The United States prosecuted some Japanese interrogators at war crimes trials after World War II for waterboarding and other methods detailed in the memos.

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The memos include what in effect are lengthy excerpts from the agency’s interrogation manual, laying out with precision how each method was to be used. Waterboarding, for example, involved strapping a prisoner to a gurney inclined at an angle of “10 to 15 degrees” and pouring water over a cloth covering his nose and mouth “from a height of approximately 6 to 18 inches” for no more than 40 seconds at a time.

But a footnote to a 2005 memo made it clear that the rules were not always followed. Waterboarding was used “with far greater frequency than initially indicated” and with “large volumes of water” rather than the small quantities in the rules, one memo says, citing a 2004 report by the C.I.A.’s inspector general.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


If you prefer to dismiss any possibility that our country might not be quite the horridly brutal monster it has been portrayed as being, by all means derive whatever enjoyment that gives you.
 
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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Waterboarding 266 times, on two guys.  Jeesus.

Torture worked so well in the Inquisition, and the Salem Witch trials, doncha know.

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ORIGINAL: ZhuRenDianandted

i am completely appalled at the Governmental response to terrorist activities.
i am shocked at the beheading of that terrorist journalist.
i am disgusted for all of the detainees that were killed during interrogation,
i am horrified at all the prisoners that were shot for espionage, for being engaged in combat without uniform or any way of determining them to be military.
i am sad and distressed at the group of detainees who have been carted to a secret location and shot dead for lack of cooperation.
my stomach is turning at how many detainees have been dropped from helicopters without a parachute to soften their compatriots.

What??? nobody died during the waterboarding? No reports of murder, execution, accidental deaths or starvation? the guy with the bug in the box not only did not get painfully stung, but did not even have a heart murmur?

maybe something was discovered on a "Need to Know" basis, or perhaps it was simply dumb luck that there has not been a follow up attack on US soil. Sleep well, maybe they never planned on one. i think the ostrich field is somewhere over there, on your left.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Yes well, now that I understand your idea of an "attack" I can see your point of view.
 
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