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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:36:42 PM   
KenDckey


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How do you like your tax dollars going to support some drug dealer in prison?

The methadone clinic down the street?

There are many things tax dollars support that i dont like. All of them with a huge toll to society if they are not dealt with. Funny thing though... most people only object to abortion... and health care.


Dealers I think we should tie down, use my cattle prod on them till they quit making batteries or they die   whichever comes first



Why? 


20 years of military where my life depended on guys being straight and not costing me my life.  

Pushing to little kids

Increase to a whole bunch of bad things, like crime (beyond the selling act itself)

uhhhhh   shit  bunch of reasons.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:38:28 PM   
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Wait!!!

Military insurance? Yeah, i get the part that you worked for it. I know what hard work that is, i grew up in it.

However, its not like you ever had to worry about the Fed Government canceling your policy. And i know what Champus and Tricare paid. Your insurance was part of your job. It wasnt something you had to work harder to get. Dont take this as a belittlement of your service... far from it. But if i had a job that guarenteed insurance, no way would i leave it either. Insurance was a benefit for you... not something you had to work hard to get. Some people in the service do little more than push paper and write articles. and some do the dirtiest of work. If you fell in the later group, that was your choice... much as you insist its the woman's choice to keep her legs closed.


lol  I also worked for a municipal govt and retired from them.     I like to hedge my healthcare     

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:39:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ken where is it written that your tax dollars will only be used for things you personally approve of...as an earlier poster mentioned he is morally opposed to war...does he get to decide his tax money can't be used for defence spending?
Your tax dollars are not,despite what Realone and others will tell you voluntary.....make contributions to the charities of your choice....hell give to pro-choice organizations if you like.That is your right.....anti- abortion forces holding up health care reform over this is nothing less than obstructionism...hopefully the Dems don't cave and you and your kind can gnash your teeth about all of your taxes now doing the devils work.A womans choice is the law of the land....if we are to reform health care why in hell would we exclude a procedure that is legal and can be medically necessary?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:39:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		And I don't agree with war, but i still pay for it, I don't want to pay for welfare I still pay for it, I dont want to pay Social Security taxes because Ill never see it, but i still have to. I don't get to selectively say hey im only going to pay taxes on what I want.

And sorry sweetheart not everyone can get a hysto, I asked for one starting at 14, it would be the best thing for me, however I cant get one till i have at least 3 children or am over the age of 35 or the medication they have me on fails....

Your argument is I shouldnt have to pay taxes because i dont agree. Im sure theres taxes you do pay that you dont agree on.

I dont agree that people have to pay 50 dollars to see a specialist if they need to. or close to 1000 dollars just to go to the er. I also dont agree that abortion should be excluded....

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:40:41 PM   
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Let me guess...you are retired military so you get to use the VA...oh waite didn't you also work for the government...so you could tie the two together? yuuuup you worked hard to supply that medical insurance.
If I remember you said you were an admin clerk. 
Now lets get down to that 60 pound pack being carried by a 165 pound man six miles on his lunch break at the double time ....every day..... ROFLMAO


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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:40:54 PM   
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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:41:22 PM   
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When the health care debates started up again I knew that abortion would be a sticking point. My own position is pro-education and access to health care, contraception and abortion.

If family planning and abortion are not legal, accessible and funded what are the results? More unplanned pregnancies and complications from illegal abortions, including death of women who simply could not afford more dependents.

http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/publications/unsafe_abortion/abortion_facts.pdf

"Samples of Unsafe Abortion Methods Used
• Drinking turpentine, bleach or tea made with livestock manure
• Inserting herbal preparations into the vagina or cervix
• Placing foreign bodies, such as a stick, coat hanger or chicken
bone, into the uterus
• Jumping from the top of stairs or a roof"


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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:42:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		20 years of military where my life depended on guys being straight and not costing me my life.  

You have already told us you were an admin clerk so drop the GI Joe crap.


Pushing to little kids

You are watching way too much TV get a life 

Increase to a whole bunch of bad things, like crime (beyond the selling act itself)

Yeah right....got some statistics to bolster this mindless bullshit?

uhhhhh   shit  bunch of reasons.
Such as....oh don't tell me....god does not like it

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:43:07 PM   
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I think is is funny how many people of the "religious" sector think abortion is bad but can't wait to mutilate the penis of thier new born baby boy (without anesthetic).

HELLO morals anybody?????

Women's rights????? HAHAHAHA

What about a baby's rights? What about a man's rights to a sound mind and healthy sex life.


Wow, cimcumcised men dont have healthy sex?

Myself, i prefer filthy sex... i guess thats all circumcised men can have these days?

(man, i hope so!!)






Actually many men are impotent from circumcision. Many of the babies get severe infections and some die.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:45:55 PM   
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An abortion is about 500 to 700 dollars total, the birth of a child is close to 7000 dollars, more if their is complications plus the half a million dollars to insure that child until its 18 and even more if its a government program,
your main argument is that it will raise your taxes... It will raise your taxes more to have the child then to not have it..

This.
Question, Ken. Do you think healthcare should cover it if a woman gets pregnant and has the baby? If so, your whole "I shouldn't have to pay for an abortion" argument is blown. If not... well, things are about to get interesting.


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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:46:58 PM   
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Ken where is it written that your tax dollars will only be used for things you personally approve of...as an earlier poster mentioned he is morally opposed to war...does he get to decide his tax money can't be used for defence spending?
Your tax dollars are not,despite what Realone and others will tell you voluntary.....make contributions to the charities of your choice....hell give to pro-choice organizations if you like.That is your right.....anti- abortion forces holding up health care reform over this is nothing less than obstructionism...hopefully the Dems don't cave and you and your kind can gnash your teeth about all of your taxes now doing the devils work.A womans choice is the law of the land....if we are to reform health care why in hell would we exclude a procedure that is legal and can be medically necessary?


I don't care if it is one billionth of a mil   I don't want to pay any more on taxes.   yes   Abortion is the law of the land and I don't care about that.   Just don't make me pay for it (exceptions noted).   Healthcare reform   not gonna argue that isn't needed either.   but will argue whether or not I have to pay for some things (personal responsibility) and making criminals of people that don't have healthcare.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:49:01 PM   
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I am circumcised....allow me to make this public offer (open to most any of the ladies...other than belladevine...I'm a slut,not fucking crazy)I am niether infected nor impotent..and am willing to prove both at any time and at most any place..... come one ...come all.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:49:23 PM   
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Why do people keep chanting "What about individual responsibility?" like a mantra?  A child isn't just the mother's responsibility nor even that of both parents.  A child is the responsibility of society as a whole.  'Rights never go without responsibilities' - another mantra so beloved of the political right, everywhere.  But, again, society wants the right to an individual's contribution to it - up to and including the right forcibly to risk that individual's life in a war.

This isn't just about individuals. it's about society.  In particular, it's about a society that, despite its vast wealth and obvious greed for even more, is still steeped in a defunct ideology that desperately tries to make a virtue out of selfishness. 

So, then: what about social responsibility - and the idea that we are all the 'uncles and aunts' of every child in our society?  *Sigh* - again, something that only very primitive tribespeople seem to believe, apparently.   

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:49:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		VA   Hell no.   Just get a gun and shoot me   Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee    I want to live.   My experiences with them are well let me say less than desireable 

Mine on the other hand have been all positive,,,Kidney stone removal (twice),Minor hand surgury,Removal of a small skin cancer,couple of root canals.
The treated me like I was paying cash and the place was cleaner than a marine corps mess hall.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:49:37 PM   
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god does not like it


The same god who tells them to be kind to others... so glad I'm an atheist.

And on that note, not my country, not my healthcare bill. I'll just watch from the sidelines as I see the those that really need the help not get the help they need.

Bottom line, any woman who can pay for an abortion will do so in a private abortion clinic. The conditions are leaps and bounds better. The hospital based/funded abortions would only go to the women who could not afford one. Funded abortions will be a minuscule dent in the whole system.

It is traumatizing enough for a woman to get an abortion that if she can pay for the discretion and comfort and extra nice service, she will. That is the case in all the other western countries. Time to catch up USA.

This is really an issue of trying to control women's bodies. Smoke and mirrors people. Wake up.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:50:15 PM   
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And I don't agree with war, but i still pay for it, I don't want to pay for welfare I still pay for it, I dont want to pay Social Security taxes because Ill never see it, but i still have to. I don't get to selectively say hey im only going to pay taxes on what I want.

And sorry sweetheart not everyone can get a hysto, I asked for one starting at 14, it would be the best thing for me, however I cant get one till i have at least 3 children or am over the age of 35 or the medication they have me on fails....

Your argument is I shouldnt have to pay taxes because i dont agree. Im sure theres taxes you do pay that you dont agree on.

I dont agree that people have to pay 50 dollars to see a specialist if they need to. or close to 1000 dollars just to go to the er. I also dont agree that abortion should be excluded....

 

Actually I agree with denial of the abortion at 14.   Someone decided that the age of reason is 18 so I guess at that age you should have been allowed the choice (I know  finding a doc to do it is a different thing)

I hate specialists, but they are needed.   They are just way to expensive.   Same with ER

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:51:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Ken where is it written that your tax dollars will only be used for things you personally approve of...as an earlier poster mentioned he is morally opposed to war...does he get to decide his tax money can't be used for defence spending?
Your tax dollars are not,despite what Realone and others will tell you voluntary.....make contributions to the charities of your choice....hell give to pro-choice organizations if you like.That is your right.....anti- abortion forces holding up health care reform over this is nothing less than obstructionism...hopefully the Dems don't cave and you and your kind can gnash your teeth about all of your taxes now doing the devils work.A womans choice is the law of the land....if we are to reform health care why in hell would we exclude a procedure that is legal and can be medically necessary?


I don't care if it is one billionth of a mil   I don't want to pay any more on taxes.   yes   Abortion is the law of the land and I don't care about that.   Just don't make me pay for it (exceptions noted).   Healthcare reform   not gonna argue that isn't needed either.   but will argue whether or not I have to pay for some things (personal responsibility) and making criminals of people that don't have healthcare.

But you seem to miss the point.....its not your decision...you can whine about it,you can bitch about it...but if its passed you will pay your taxes and grind your teeth ....and somehow when it comes to guys like you...that just makes me feel good.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:51:21 PM   
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An abortion is about 500 to 700 dollars total, the birth of a child is close to 7000 dollars, more if their is complications plus the half a million dollars to insure that child until its 18 and even more if its a government program,
your main argument is that it will raise your taxes... It will raise your taxes more to have the child then to not have it..

This.
Question, Ken. Do you think healthcare should cover it if a woman gets pregnant and has the baby? If so, your whole "I shouldn't have to pay for an abortion" argument is blown. If not... well, things are about to get interesting.



Not to mention the cost of a woman living off government assistance until her child goes to preschool because her education level isn't high enough to have a job that can pay the rent and child care. How much more is that than 700$?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:51:43 PM   
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...I'm not even going to say anything......oh shit,I can't help myself...
I am circumcised....allow me to make this public offer (open to most any of the ladies...other than belladevine...I'm a slut,not fucking crazy)I am niether infected nor impotent..and am willing to prove both at any time and at most any place..... come one ...come all.


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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 5:51:57 PM   
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In tricare (champus) case, they could not deny you, they could not cancel, they could not raise your rates... tell me, what did you work so hard for? Something that was guarenteed you for just doing your job?



hehehehe   why do you think I chose the military   lol  

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