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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:08:42 PM

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Actually I do think that healthcare should cover prenatal care as a matter of mom's health. Provided you have healthcare.

Nice dodge, now how about you answer the question. Should health care become something the gov't provides, do you think that prenatal care should be covered?

I'm sorry I thought I answered that. No I dno't think the govt should cover it. If she has health care then yes prenatal care should be covered. but that is my opinion but then I am not gonna negotiate with her healthcare provider to make sure it is. She can do that

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:09:52 PM

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Do you think the health care should pay for a woman who is not married to have a baby?

For fucks sake pay attention....We are talking about the health care bill. Do you think the health care bill should cover unmarried women having babies?
Does she have healthcare? If so yes

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:10:49 PM

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And I don't agree with war, but i still pay for it, I don't want to pay for welfare I still pay for it, I dont want to pay Social Security taxes because Ill never see it, but i still have to. I don't get to selectively say hey im only going to pay taxes on what I want.

And sorry sweetheart not everyone can get a hysto, I asked for one starting at 14, it would be the best thing for me, however I cant get one till i have at least 3 children or am over the age of 35 or the medication they have me on fails....

Your argument is I shouldnt have to pay taxes because i dont agree. Im sure theres taxes you do pay that you dont agree on.

I dont agree that people have to pay 50 dollars to see a specialist if they need to. or close to 1000 dollars just to go to the er. I also dont agree that abortion should be excluded....

Actually I agree with denial of the abortion at 14. Someone decided that the age of reason is 18 so I guess at that age you should have been allowed the choice (I know finding a doc to do it is a different thing)

I hate specialists, but they are needed. They are just way to expensive. Same with ER

I said HYSTO... NOT abortion... I needed then and still need NOW a hysto to cure the issue i have, I have never had an abortion because ive been damned lucky to do everything i can to prevent it.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:15:00 PM

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Actually the "religious right" types and conservatives in general are far more charitable than liberals.

Of course they are: they can claim charitable donations as a tax write off then spend the next twelve months bragging about all of the good work they do.

And the liberals can't because?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:15:09 PM

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I'm sorry I thought I answered that. No I dno't think the govt should cover it. If she has health care then yes prenatal care should be covered. but that is my opinion but then I am not gonna negotiate with her healthcare provider to make sure it is. She can do that

Great plan. And when, because she didn't have private healthcare and therefore got no prental care, there are serious complications, the resulting issues in the baby and/or the mother shouldn't be covered either?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:17:40 PM

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I may not be your friend or a liberal but you can bet your ass that I would support your having access to national health care no matter what sort of poor choices you may or may not have made. Good health is something that the older one gets the more one appreciates.
I suffer from abysmal good health...in that my problems tend to be mechanical and not systemic( I ride a motorcycle and it is not possible to do that with falling down from time to time)
It is not a question of unhealthy choices it is a question of how to get well.

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I was hoping someone would get to this part of the monkey business.

So if I want to smoke (like our President does) and eat fatty foods like my favorite Dem President Wild Bill did I trust I can count on my Liberal friends to back me when they start trying to make me pay extra or deny me "rights" to my Federal Health Care.

Right?!

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Also if my mother who smokes drinks eats fatty foods and such will be eligible for free health care which has cost multiple thousands of dollars in medical expenses because of her own choices. Then those who choose to have an abortion for what ever reason, should be allowed the procedure.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:17:41 PM

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I'm sorry I thought I answered that. No I dno't think the govt should cover it. If she has health care then yes prenatal care should be covered. but that is my opinion but then I am not gonna negotiate with her healthcare provider to make sure it is. She can do that

Great plan. And when, because she didn't have private healthcare and therefore got no prental care, there are serious complications, the resulting issues in the baby and/or the mother shouldn't be covered either?

Not my kid guess not not my problem

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:18:14 PM

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Men have no part until roughly 9 months later... if they are true men.

Don't you be tossing that manipulative fucking horseshit around in my thread. This true men bullshit belongs in third grade, not in an adult discussion.

And yes men should be responsible for their actions, I'm not arguing that and in fact have done well teaching my sons as much, but if we want this fucking country to be all fair and equal it goes both ways dammit. Men get the fucking shaft in this child care crap and it's not just about the money for the father, but that is often enough all it is about for our dear old Uncle Sam.

So cut the shit and slip your feet into both sets of shoes and examine it from both sides of the coin if you want your point in this debate to maintain any credibility.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:22:32 PM

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Not my kid guess not not my problem

Well, at least we know where you stand.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:23:46 PM

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Not my kid guess not not my problem

Well, at least we know where you stand.

Thank you. Someone finally got it

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:26:06 PM

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I think is is funny how many people of the "religious" sector think abortion is bad but can't wait to mutilate the penis of thier new born baby boy (without anesthetic).

HELLO morals anybody?????

Women's rights????? HAHAHAHA

What about a baby's rights? What about a man's rights to a sound mind and healthy sex life.

I think it's funny that a women is so obsessed with male circumcision. Is there something your not telling us?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:26:26 PM

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REALITY? O please!

Exactly how many men do you think are going to run up to your face and say,

"Hey baby, My parents strapped me down and cut my dick when when I was a baby and so now I am impotent."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:29:02 PM

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Men have no part until roughly 9 months later... if they are true men.

Don't you be tossing that manipulative fucking horseshit around in my thread. This true men bullshit belongs in third grade, not in an adult discussion.

And yes men should be responsible for their actions, I'm not arguing that and in fact have done well teaching my sons as much, but if we want this fucking country to be all fair and equal it goes both ways dammit. Men get the fucking shaft in this child care crap and it's not just about the money for the father, but that is often enough all it is about for our dear old Uncle Sam.

So cut the shit and slip your feet into both sets of shoes and examine it from both sides of the coin if you want your point in this debate to maintain any credibility.

Master Bull

i raised mine alone... took that responsibility upon myself... never looked for anyone for help except the two years it took me to graduate and pass the nursing boards.

i said "true men" not as a manipulation, but as an honest opinion of men who ditch and dodge their responsibilities. the "if you play, you pay" goes both ways. males abandoning their sperm then hiding behind the laws to avoid their responsibilities to the child they helped create does not equal "men" to me at all.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:29:49 PM

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I'm sorry I thought I answered that. No I dno't think the govt should cover it. If she has health care then yes prenatal care should be covered. but that is my opinion but then I am not gonna negotiate with her healthcare provider to make sure it is. She can do that

Great plan. And when, because she didn't have private healthcare and therefore got no prental care, there are serious complications, the resulting issues in the baby and/or the mother shouldn't be covered either?

Not my kid guess not not my problem

A few pages back you talked about blowing out your spine.....having a fucked up back I almost started to feel sorry for you...and regretting my harsh stance.....but you kept posting.Just had to keep going out of your way to prove what an unmitigated prick you actually are.
Newsflash asshole...might not be your kid,damm sure you won't ever see it as your problem.....but as sure as god made little green apples,sooner or later some of your tax dollars are going to be spent caring for that precious kid......and it is my fervant hope that the simple knowledge of this fact so hardens your heart that your arteries block and you have a massive and debilitating coronary event.....maxing out your private insurance and therefore needing public money for your continued health care...the last few miserable years of your piss ant life is spent drinking from the public trough of reformed health care.....Justice is thus served.
Sllep well my friend and dream of a society where no one else's troubles come anywhere near your black door.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:31:06 PM

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REALITY? O please!

Exactly how many men do you think are going to run up to your face and say,

"Hey baby, My parents strapped me down and cut my dick when when I was a baby and so now I am impotent."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE

So unless he tells you he's impotent...you wouldn't know?
Are you sure you know what impotence actually is?

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:32:18 PM

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Circumcised is the state of our union. America and it's HUMAN RIGHTS policy is a sham.

HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA IS A JOKE!

Wake up, every singly person in this country should be ashamed of themselves for condoning such barbaric behavior.

It's time to step out of the cave man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:32:31 PM

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Those are certainly fair points Ken.

I think they should redo a bill that is actually sensible and perhaps their needs to be much to discover if the politicians told us the facts without all the shaddy foggy shit.

I'm actually not completely opposed to us all having to pay starting at a given age. It might save the systen in the end, I'm not sure, I can't get a straight answer since so many opponents want to make this right to not have to pay a talking point.

Ken, I don't have any pre-existing conditions that aren't covered by my Military Benefits ( and thanks to my nation for caring about me, I really do appreciate it) But it seems very liklely that all of us are destined to a pre-existing condition someday, it sounds like even you have one now.

It seems like an obvious conclusion that nearly every 18 year old will one day in their future have that dreaded pre-existing condition, or an illness that someone behind a desk will try and use against them to increase a profit margin.

So just using this one point of the Dems side I think you see that even a damn Libertarian like me can understand it's not just about money and individual responsibility. I think we are the greatest nation and surely we should not only respect our elders but start taking care of ourselves as elders before we are just that.

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Actually it has a few items within it I am intrigued by.

But I almost agree with you Ken....

I'm just concerned with the foggy details..............like this aborition issue that has a fair number of folks up in arms...

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Problem is that the whole bill sucks

Yeah Bull I guess my biggest 2 problems are

1. Why is it my responsibility to pay for others. I worked for my healthcare.

2. If someone opts out, why should we put them in prision.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:33:40 PM

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REALITY? O please!

Exactly how many men do you think are going to run up to your face and say,

"Hey baby, My parents strapped me down and cut my dick when when I was a baby and so now I am impotent."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE

LOL.. i can guarentee it wouldnt be one of the fathers!

As someone else pointed out, 75% of the men born here are circumcised... there are an awful lot of babies being born for that one incident to be a leading cause of impotence.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:34:46 PM

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Thank you. Someone finally got it

That you are self centered and stingy...that has not been a very closely guarded secret in the years I have been here busting your chops.

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RE: Women's Rights! - 3/18/2010 6:36:38 PM

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I'm sorry I thought I answered that. No I dno't think the govt should cover it. If she has health care then yes prenatal care should be covered. but that is my opinion but then I am not gonna negotiate with her healthcare provider to make sure it is. She can do that

Great plan. And when, because she didn't have private healthcare and therefore got no prental care, there are serious complications, the resulting issues in the baby and/or the mother shouldn't be covered either?

Not my kid guess not not my problem

A few pages back you talked about blowing out your spine.....having a fucked up back I almost started to feel sorry for you...and regretting my harsh stance.....but you kept posting.Just had to keep going out of your way to prove what an unmitigated prick you actually are.
Newsflash asshole...might not be your kid,damm sure you won't ever see it as your problem.....but as sure as god made little green apples,sooner or later some of your tax dollars are going to be spent caring for that precious kid......and it is my fervant hope that the simple knowledge of this fact so hardens your heart that your arteries block and you have a massive and debilitating coronary event.....maxing out your private insurance and therefore needing public money for your continued health care...the last few miserable years of your piss ant life is spent drinking from the public trough of reformed health care.....Justice is thus served.
Sllep well my friend and dream of a society where no one else's troubles come anywhere near your black door.

lol My healthcare will never max out. and if I die I have already don'ated my body to research my wife will get a little box back

As for my back. is my problem not yours why should you care one way or the or the other?

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