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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Thank you.   Someone finally got it

That you are self centered and stingy...that has not been a very closely guarded secret in the years I have been here busting your chops.

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I think is is funny how many people of the "religious" sector think abortion is bad but can't wait to mutilate the penis of thier new born baby boy (without anesthetic).

HELLO morals anybody?????

Women's rights????? HAHAHAHA

What about a baby's rights? What about a man's rights to a sound mind and healthy sex life.

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Those are certainly fair points Ken.

I think they should redo a bill that is actually sensible and perhaps their needs to be much to discover if the politicians told us the facts without all the shaddy foggy shit.

I'm actually not completely opposed to us all having to pay starting at a given age. It might save the systen in the end, I'm not sure, I can't get a straight answer since so many opponents want to make this right to not have to pay a talking point.

Ken, I don't have any pre-existing conditions that aren't covered by my Military Benefits ( and thanks to my nation for caring about me, I really do appreciate it) But it seems very liklely that all of us are distend to a pre-existing condition someday, it sounds like even you have one now.

It seems like an obvious conclusion that nearly every 18 year old will one day have that dreaded pre-existing condition, or an illness that someone behind a desk will try and use against them to increase a profit margin.

So just using this one point of the Dems side I think you see that even a damn Libertarian like me can understand it's not just about money and individual responsibility. I think we are the greatest nation and surely we should not only respect our elders but start taking care of ourselves as elders before we are just that.

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Actually it has a few items within it I am intrigued by.

But I almost agree with you Ken....

I'm just concerned with the foggy details..............like this aborition issue that has a fair number of folks up in arms...

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Problem is that the whole bill sucks

Yeah Bull   I guess my biggest 2 problems are

1.   Why is it my responsibility to pay for others.   I worked for my healthcare.

2.  If someone opts out, why should we put them in prision.

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Hey Dickey,make no mistake about it,despite my own bad back and the natural empathy someone with similiar problems might happen to feel.I don't give a fuck about your back...as a matter of fact I don't give a fuck about you.Right now all I'm wondering is how the fuck do we get them damm "death panels" back into this bill.

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ROFLMAO read my previous quote. I wish I could have a dognut. and do I think we should restrict healthecare Damn right. Let's not have it unless you work for it.

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ROFLMAO read my previous quote. I wish I could have a dognut. and do I think we should restrict healthecare Damn right. Let's not have it unless you work for it.

Yeah... let's just let them die...

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

cleaner than a marine corps mess hall.

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ROFLMAO read my previous quote. I wish I could have a dognut. and do I think we should restrict healthecare Damn right. Let's not have it unless you work for it.

Yeah... let's just let them die...

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ROFLMAO read my previous quote. I wish I could have a dognut. and do I think we should restrict healthecare Damn right. Let's not have it unless you work for it.

Yeah... let's just let them die...

Makes you want to go out and buy this charmer a Dunkin Donuts gift card!

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ROFLMAO read my previous quote. I wish I could have a dognut. and do I think we should restrict healthecare Damn right. Let's not have it unless you work for it.

Yeah... let's just let them die...

ROFLMAO   OK

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With all this talk about abortion funding in this health care bill, I'm wondering if the Republicans think a woman shouldn't have the right to do as she chooses with her own body?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I  may not be your friend or a liberal but you can bet your ass that I would support your having access to national health care no matter what sort of poor choices you may or may not have made.  Good health is something that the older one gets the more one appreciates. 
I suffer from abysmal good health...in that my problems tend to be mechanical and not systemic( I ride a motorcycle and it is not possible to do that with falling down from time to time)
It is not a question of unhealthy choices it is a question of how to get well.

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ORIGINAL: xBullx


I was hoping someone would get to this part of the monkey business.

So if I want to smoke (like our President does) and eat fatty foods like my favorite Dem President Wild Bill did I trust I can count on my Liberal friends to back me when they start trying to make me pay extra or deny me "rights" to my Federal Health Care.

Right?!

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Also if my mother who smokes drinks eats fatty foods and such will be eligible for free health care which has cost multiple thousands of dollars in medical expenses because of her own choices. Then those who choose to have an abortion for what ever reason, should be allowed the procedure.

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Men have no part until roughly 9 months later... if they are true men.

Don't you be tossing that manipulative fucking horseshit around in my thread. This true men bullshit belongs in third grade, not in an adult discussion.

And yes men should be responsible for their actions, I'm not arguing that and in fact have done well teaching my sons as much, but if we want this fucking country to be all fair and equal it goes both ways dammit. Men get the fucking shaft in this child care crap and it's not just about the money for the father, but that is often enough all it is about for our dear old Uncle Sam.

So cut the shit and slip your feet into both sets of shoes and examine it from both sides of the coin if you want your point in this debate to maintain any credibility.

Master Bull

i raised mine alone... took that responsibility upon myself... never looked for anyone for help except the two years it took me to graduate and pass the nursing boards.

i said "true men" not as a manipulation, but as an honest opinion of men who ditch and dodge their responsibilities. the "if you play, you pay" goes both ways. males abandoning their sperm then hiding behind the laws to avoid their responsibilities to the child they helped create does not equal "men" to me at all.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I would say that should be a decision made by both, after much thought. I think that would vary by the situation.

I am 53 fucking years old... My  "baby" is 26. the thought of another child makes My head explode. Having said that, I don't know what I would personally decide.

Intellectually. I believe in a womans right to choose. Emotionally, if it were My baby, I might have strong. loud, issues with that.

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Dropping someone's healthcare that they have paid for because they get sick is totally wrong in my opinion.   I hope they sue and win.

And healthcare reform is needed.  I don't profess to know exactly how.   But I know the system is broke.