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"A woman has the right to do what she wants with h... - 4/15/2011 10:39:47 AM

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Therefore crack should be legal.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:41:55 AM

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What is it you want to discuss? Abortion rights, drug rights, or how you are trying to prove just how misinformed you are?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:43:44 AM

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I think he wants to examine the statement, "a woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her own body".

No surprise you want to derail it.

Luckily you have mods that will silence those that you disagree with.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:46:39 AM

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What is it you want to discuss? Abortion rights, drug rights, or how you are trying to prove just how misinformed you are?

The right of an individual to choose what to do with their own body.

What am I misinformed about?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:54:32 AM

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Its a statement used only when discussing abortion rights. Its not a blanket statement used to garner rights for drug use, bank robberies or other illegal acts.

Abortion is still legal. In that aspect, a woman does have the right to do what she wants with her own body.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:56:28 AM

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Of course "crack" should not be legalized, however each individual has the right to choose how to treat their own body. They are also choosing to accept the responsibilities of their choices. Becoming obese is a possible consequence of overeating or eating too many carbs and using any drug, legal or otherwise has side effects up to and including the possibility of death.

Is the sock puppet satisfied with this answer or should we continue this discussion somewhere that doesn't have to pollute a bdsm forum?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:56:35 AM

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What is it you want to discuss? Abortion rights, drug rights, or how you are trying to prove just how misinformed you are?

The right of an individual to choose what to do with their own body.

What am I misinformed about?

uhhhhhh Say what?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:58:31 AM

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should we continue this discussion somewhere that doesn't have to pollute a bdsm forum?

This is the politics and religion forum. We are the outcasts of the BDSM forum.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:00:38 AM

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Its a statement used only when discussing abortion rights. Its not a blanket statement used to garner rights for drug use, bank robberies or other illegal acts.

Abortion is still legal. In that aspect, a woman does have the right to do what she wants with her own body.

I don't see how it would apply to bank robberies, the statement isn't "a woman has a right to do what she wants with other people's money" after all.

I'm just wondering where the line is drawn. "A woman has the right to abort a fetus" would be better, if it's just a statement of fact, but "you can't take away a woman's right to abort" is a lot less persuasive than "you can't take away a woman's rights over her own body."

Legality is one place to draw the line but then the statement is sort of irrelevant when it comes to keeping abortion legal. "My body, my choice" wouldn't be able to hold up against "no sorry, it's illegal now."

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:02:00 AM

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Ahh, my mistake tazzy. Wasn't paying attention to where I was posting. With that being said, carry on sock puppet.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:02:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: essenem

Of course "crack" should not be legalized, however each individual has the right to choose how to treat their own body. They are also choosing to accept the responsibilities of their choices. Becoming obese is a possible consequence of overeating or eating too many carbs and using any drug, legal or otherwise has side effects up to and including the possibility of death.

Why not make it legal, if it's about choice? A woman can just as easily choose to have a back alley coathanger abortion or drink some pennyroyal if it's not about making legal choices.

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Is the sock puppet satisfied with this answer or should we continue this discussion somewhere that doesn't have to pollute a bdsm forum?

Not a sockpuppet, I quit using my old account for privacy reasons. If you're interested in knowing what account that was you can send me a pm and I will tell you. Also this is the politics and religion forum.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:03:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its a statement used only when discussing abortion rights. Its not a blanket statement used to garner rights for drug use, bank robberies or other illegal acts.

Abortion is still legal. In that aspect, a woman does have the right to do what she wants with her own body.

Actually the statement comes to us from the feminist movement in the 1960s and 1970s. I read it in the book Our Bodies, Ourselves in 1973 or 74. It was meant to cover all aspects of her body and definitely included whether or not to wear a bra, all forms of sexual expression, and addressed the lack of proper attention to the special medical needs of women.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:08:04 AM

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It amazes me that even when a thread's OP is obviously a farcical joke, people will demand justice and line up to be offended by the gall of it's question.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:10:33 AM

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Thread isn't a joke. Question is srs.

It's a fill in the blank sort of thing. "A woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body, unless ________________"

So far the answer has been "unless it is illegal" which is one sort of answer, but I'm looking more at the ethical exceptions than the legal ones. "It's illegal" is a bit of a copout anyway, simply saying a woman doesn't have the right to do xyz to her own body doesn't explain why she shouldn't have that right.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:11:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: PonyGroom

Actually the statement comes to us from the feminist movement in the 1960s and 1970s. I read it in the book Our Bodies, Ourselves in 1973 or 74. It was meant to cover all aspects of her body and definitely included whether or not to wear a bra, all forms of sexual expression, and addressed the lack of proper attention to the special medical needs of women.

I believe you are correct as to the origins of the phrase. However, I agree with tazzy that it has evolved over the years.

In any case, your response, informative as it was, doesn't really relate to the topic. Probably b/c we've yet to be informed as to what the topic actually IS.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:21:44 AM

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Thread isn't a joke. Question is srs.
It's a fill in the blank sort of thing. "A woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body, unless ________________"

Ok, this helps define what you are seeking to discuss but why not apply this question to all genders or living human beings?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:27:59 AM

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Ok, this helps define what you are seeking to discuss but why not apply this question to all genders or living human beings?

This context makes it more interesting. A lot of people who would disagree with the statement "people should be able to choose to do drugs" would also say they agree with the statement "a woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body" and to me that is an interesting paradox.

A woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body, with regards to abortion, but a woman does not have the right to choose what to do with her own body with regards to drugs or prostitution.

So where should her ability to choose what to do to her own body end? And why there?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:47:14 AM

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A woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body, with regards to abortion, but a woman does not have the right to choose what to do with her own body with regards to drugs or prostitution.

With regards to abortion... yes.

With regards to drug use... no.

With regards to prostitution... yes.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 11:56:12 AM

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With regards to prostitution... yes.

Interesting.

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Its not a blanket statement used to garner rights for [...] illegal acts.

What makes prostitution unique there? Or for that matter, abortion, in countries like Ireland where elective abortion is illegal?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 12:31:24 PM

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