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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:09:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

They may like to dominate but they are not a Dominant, they are a switch. This goes along the lines of those silly posts about "Dominants" commanding their subordinates to top them. You are either pitchin', catchin' or switchin'. If you like pitchin' and you like catchin' by getting anally dominated, that means you are switchin'. Simple as that. The fact they don't want to admit they are a switch is their problem.




This is plain ignorant.

1. It's like saying that any woman who receives vaginal sex isn't dominant.

2. Dominance is about the mental. A Dom can totally bottom. That's what topping from the bottom is...

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:12:52 AM   
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Not at all, peon.
But remember, it isn't natural for a female to penetrate a male since we lack the appropriate appendage.
For a male sub, being told to penetrate his partner is natural, meaning common and customary for intercourse.


Did a kinky person seriously just use the "unnatural" argument?

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:17:23 AM   
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Not at all, peon.
But remember, it isn't natural for a female to penetrate a male since we lack the appropriate appendage.
For a male sub, being told to penetrate his partner is natural, meaning common and customary for intercourse.


Did a kinky person seriously just use the "unnatural" argument?


Indeed they did.

Bless their little close minded heart.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:30:10 AM   
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Because dominance and top are the usual pairing


No it's not. The usual pairing is a dominant female bottom and a submissive male top trying to convince themselves that the male is dominant. Most men don't have the basic ability to deal with the average woman's ability to manipulate them to be able to be dominant over them.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:32:21 AM   
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Most men don't have the basic ability to deal with the average woman's ability to manipulate them to be able to be dominant over them.



Oh thank you! That just made my day.


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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:39:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ahh, but did it make your day in a way that's complimentary or insulting to me?

Just to be clear, I'm not saying women are more manipulative than men. I'm just saying it's like major leagues vs minor.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:55:49 AM   
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Ahh, but did it make your day in a way that's complimentary or insulting to me?

Just to be clear, I'm not saying women are more manipulative than men. I'm just saying it's like major leagues vs minor.


Quite complementary as I agree with you. Hence the

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 11:58:46 AM   
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LOL what are you dragging me into the fray for!?!?!?! I'm innocent I tell you ... Just ask me.


Innocent of..... posting? Don't think so...!

But nice job of ducking the question I actually did ask you.

Focus.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 12:08:09 PM   
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Does anyone even know what Peon and ML just said? Anyone? Beuller?


I commented earlier on Crazyml.

It's the English, they speak some whole other language than us! And I don't mean that even more confusing Shakespeare variety, either.

Focus.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 1:14:23 PM   
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2. Dominance is about the mental. A Dom can totally bottom. That's what topping from the bottom is...



Thank you, this really is the only thing that needed to be said and you managed it in one sentence!!

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 2:45:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger

2. Dominance is about the mental. A Dom can totally bottom. That's what topping from the bottom is...



Thank you, this really is the only thing that needed to be said and you managed it in one sentence!!



D/s is about the hierarchy in the relationship, kink is about play.. the ole WIITWD. But humans are the sum of their experiences, and certain behaviors evoke certain responses... idiosyncratic from one person to another, but what we see here is that the kink itself can actually affect the relationship. Attribution theory and classical conditioning at their finest I suppose.

As for the other point, I certainly don't define topping from the bottom the way you and tiger do. I take it as a manipulative attempt for a submissive to have their way, without being direct about it.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 3:55:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Manipulative" is a null word. Everything we do is about manipulating each other. Such manipulative behavior from a bottom is merely a test of dominance. If you can't handle it, that just means she's more dominant than you.

Of course, someone who overdoes the testing is tiresome and annoying.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 10:20:06 PM   
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Kerching!


Say what...? Google says it's the sound of a cash register (I'd have said ka-ching) or some Brit teenage sitcom, which I've thankfully never heard of.

This is payback for giving you hangups?

The English - if you could only speak the language....

Focus.


Grin... sorry I missed this.

Yeah, it's meant to be the sound of a cash register, and in this context it's used to point out that I thought that your post was proper pukka


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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/7/2013 11:43:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Does anyone even know what Peon and ML just said? Anyone? Beuller?



let me see if I can help you out

peon: Hmmm interesting thread. If a women asked me to fuck her in the ass (with my dick or a strap on) I would feel it was a submissive thing to do. Very much so and it would turn me on. As a sub male living in the F/m world, I'm probably a great deal less "natural" than those living in the M/f world, tragically.

crazyml: Do you realize that there is probably a lot of horny guys reading this and masturbating.

peon: really, fucking perverts. They should take a cold shower, disgusting


At least that is how I read it. It's just a shame that you can't hear peon actually saying this because he has an incredibly sexy accent that the written word just can't convey.



Hey thanks!

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 2:15:38 AM   
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D/s is about the hierarchy in the relationship, kink is about play.. the ole WIITWD. But humans are the sum of their experiences, and certain behaviors evoke certain responses... idiosyncratic from one person to another, but what we see here is that the kink itself can actually affect the relationship. Attribution theory and classical conditioning at their finest I suppose.



Yes of course! and my initial shock reaction to a long term relationship possibly ending over a joint sexual act is because to me, thats all it is and as so its meaningless. Its clear from the responses to this thread that the act of fucking ones dominant goes beyond the realms of kinky sex.

Sometimes I have to nip myself and remind myself about how restricted dominants are and by taking that label of dominance into the wider scene audience, we will be openly berated and condemned if we don't persistently stay within that safe dominant parameter. The theme of dominance has been set on a very narrow scale and getting the balance right is crucial.

In this thread alone its been suggested that my husband is dominant over me and that because I speak my mind, I'm trying to dominate someone on here! This is how ridiculous all this becomes within these tight boundaries we call BDSM.

Some years ago I decided to strip off in a club and let a rope master suspend me. For me it was just a bi product of things we could get up to on a great evening out but for a few male sub followers it was devastating. One guy who followed me to every club I ever attended was never seen again and the following day I received an email from a sub friend questioning my motives. Being swung up in ropes made me no less dominant, in fact the man who suspended me is a submissive male but none of that mattered. The act was enough confirmation to severely damage all expectations of me.




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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 6:51:24 AM   
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Some years ago I decided to strip off in a club and let a rope master suspend me. For me it was just a bi product of things we could get up to on a great evening out but for a few male sub followers it was devastating. One guy who followed me to every club I ever attended was never seen again and the following day I received an email from a sub friend questioning my motives. Being swung up in ropes made me no less dominant, in fact the man who suspended me is a submissive male but none of that mattered. The act was enough confirmation to severely damage all expectations of me.

Good on you.
I knew there was a reason I always liked ya Maria :-)

My rule of thumb (hehehe-always a good thing to reference on a BDSM forum)is Be True to Myself.
If I do that, then the rest of the world...and their expectations/ideas/thoughts of and about me... can go pound sand.
Which, frankly, is, I believe, kinda a very dominant POV in that I am neither harnessed nor harassed by the opinions of others.
I have the freedom to do as I desire and I could care less what the people think...and that's a wonderful thing.


What I don't do is wander through a world where I am trapped by the restrictiveness of dominance. In fact,I see dominance more do what I wanna,when I wanna,how I wanna,where I wanna and with who I wanna. I dictate the terms of my life as opposed to the other way around.
What I am not responsible for is what others expect of me. That ain't my affair and generally I could care less. They gonna think all sorts of whack job things and I can never meet them all.
But I can, and do, try to meet my own expectations. (Fail most of the time too...but I keep trying to get better and in doing so,grow).
For me, for reasons posted above, taking it up the ass by anyone would be about the most undominant act I could perform. And I expect to be granted the freedom of my belief. But the flip side of that is I have to have the openmindedness, the awareness, the empathy to recognize that most others want that same freedom that I desire and it's on me to grant them that.
Cause in the end,in TTTWD, isn't that what most of us crave-to be free to be sexually the person we want to be? And isn't the ability to do so one of the best things about BDSM? And to do so without judgement or stereotyping.
For me taking it up the ass would be a defilement of self. For another it may be their sexual apogee of control.
Neither is right and neither is wrong and we both should be equally free to explore.
Grins
Course, we are equally free to have opinions,but they, as we all know are like assholes-best when unheard



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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 7:43:33 AM   
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Good on you.
I knew there was a reason I always liked ya Maria :-)



Thanks Kana, I'm glad somebody does

As for your post, I agree. Like you, I don't believe this life is just a dress rehearsal and therefore we should get out of it what we desire and disguard what we don't.


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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 9:52:22 AM   
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If whopping big butch fag was getting reamed up the ass, would you think he was a switch or committing a submissive act?

What about two mustache fags taking turns at rear entry? Are they switching?

What about two sissy twinks . . . is the one penetrating that ass being dominant?


Remember, just my opinions:

1. either/or.
2. yes
3. yes


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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 11:43:31 AM   
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Sometimes I have to nip myself and remind myself about how restricted dominants are and by taking that label of dominance into the wider scene audience, we will be openly berated and condemned if we don't persistently stay within that safe dominant parameter. The theme of dominance has been set on a very narrow scale and getting the balance right is crucial.




The only balance that's crucial is the one in your personal relationship((s).

The only restrictions we have are the ones we place on ourselves... on either side of the kneel.

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RE: Dominant men recieving strap-on sex? - 12/8/2013 11:55:54 PM   
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Hey Focus,

As usual we are just going to have to agree to disagree. At least in my experience, A relationship "evolves" over time. If it didn't it would be one boring relationship. Like anything else ppl change over time so at some point I told my girl to do "whatever" she would comply.

It has nothing to do with chest beating. It's more about her being subservient to my desires. The girls I've chosen over the years enjoi "pleasing me" no matter what I ask of them.

I do enjoi reading your posts as they give me a differing perspective.


This new, more mellow you that I'm not accustomed to, that's you evolving...? lol

Anyway, yeah, relationships evolve. Conversely, even long term relationships have been known to crash and burn, too. A dom suddenly turning switch on his sub - that can easily go both ways, no?

Focus.




As I said in my previous posts... I dont consider me telling my girl to strap on my ass making me a switch. As she is following my instructions.

But to the general point a dom turning into a switch I can see how that would be a deal killer.

BadOne



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