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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 8:48:48 AM

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No doctor refuses treatment because they don't have past records. They just start from scratch as though no treatment has been done, while working with the patient. I've changed doctors frequently enough when i had straight medicaid.I never had my records transfered.

I agree with Chatte. You want a pity party and you are getting it here.

Well, that's what they are doing at Rochester psych. They say they need the records from my old mental health clinic before they set me up with anyone here. And they said that they won't prescribe me psych meds until I've been seen 2-3 times. Kinda annoying since I want to get off Cymbalta.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 8:58:10 AM

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If you have edema you are retaining fluid, when you had problems with renal failure you should be monitored for that, it's a condition that can come back.

Let's make this really short: Are you willing to talk to the new MDs and suggest that they check the ejection fraction of your heart and kidney function (not just a simple urine test, though that is a start) and address your edema and all that? Because if you don't, they aren't psychic, I've seen patients with a great deal of your symptoms, most of them needed surgery (some quite minor with just a stent, some needed a new valve), they all needed medication and their cardiologist worked closely with the endocrinologist to get it right, as it's all interlinked and some of the thyroid medication can actually cause damage to the heart or interact in rather unpleasant ways with BP meds, so you would get a schedule of when to take which meds.

You can't go cherry picking and saying you pee enough, so kidneys work fine, if your kidneys would work fine, you wouldn't have edema, if your kidneys seem to work fine, there still could be the issue that they aren't getting enough blood, so they might work fine but a lot less.

With your weight and high BP, you are the truck that is trying to run with a scooter motor.

My kidney function tests were normal just two-three weeks ago. GFR is up to 99 which is awesome and perfect. Creatinine is .81 and Albumin is 4.4. Electrolytes all in normal range. CO2 a little high but not enough to be worrisome. Doctors have all said that edema is common in people of my size and to wear compression stockings which I need to get a new pair of but they're really expensive in my size.

I do have really bad circulation so that's probably the cause of the edema. I have that lupus anticogulant thing that makes my skin have this purpleish blotchy tint. Looks gross. I hate it. Also have a leaky vein thing in my calf that causes a bruise like looking spot that won't go away. Have had that a year and a half now.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:00:59 AM

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Saw the neurosurgeon this morning...he says that the surgery caused a fracture and that he can't even see anything in my facet joints that they were supposed to of put in there during surgery. He says I can't do physical therapy for at least 8 weeks to see if it will heal. He prescribed flexeril (sp?) and refills on the hydrocodone. I go back in 8 weeks to see if the fracture is healing and then maybe start PT. He is going to do some research on the surgery...he thinks the doctor basically committed medicaid fraud. We will see what happens.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:02:05 AM

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I could easily go back to purging 10 times a day but I don't let myself do that...at least I have forced myself to keep it to once a day.

Hip Hip Hoooray! You get the gold medal for willpower here because you only do it once a day.
For goodness sake, YOU ONLY EAT ONCE A DAY What's there to purge?
Why are you taking comfort in such false justifications? Don't you, your family or your boyfriend deserve a better you?

My family doesn't care...but then again that's one reason I moved away from them. Boyfriend does deserve better...and I'm sure eventually he'll realize that.

There is a big difference between not caring and just being burned out.
It is hard to love someone and witness continual self-destructive behaviors.

It doesn't mean they don't care.
It means that caring is very painful.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:06:58 AM

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I've had doctors that were less than stellar. I had a pain management doc that I swear was high. She so was bad my last appt I took Himself with me. I was in so much pain and taking lots of meds at the time, I wanted to make sure it wasn't me. Well, it wasn't, we agreed I wouldn't go to her again.

Instead I use my rheumatologist to proscribe my pain meds. He's very thorough, and he never just treats symptoms, he's looking at my system as a whole.

I found a dermatologist I like and followed her when she moved 30 miles away. Good doctors have value to me and I try hard to keep them.

I have an idea the OP is incapable of establishing a healthy dynamic with her doctors, and that's an issue she needs to fix.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:12:27 AM

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I could easily go back to purging 10 times a day but I don't let myself do that...at least I have forced myself to keep it to once a day.

Hip Hip Hoooray! You get the gold medal for willpower here because you only do it once a day.
For goodness sake, YOU ONLY EAT ONCE A DAY What's there to purge?
Why are you taking comfort in such false justifications? Don't you, your family or your boyfriend deserve a better you?

My family doesn't care...but then again that's one reason I moved away from them. Boyfriend does deserve better...and I'm sure eventually he'll realize that.

There is a big difference between not caring and just being burned out.
It is hard to love someone and witness continual self-destructive behaviors.

It doesn't mean they don't care.
It means that caring is very painful.

My family has always been unhealthy for me to be around. My mom allowed me to be sexually abused by the man who abused her. My father has always been verbally abusive. When I finally decided at 22 that I needed help for my eating disorder...my therapist at the time thought it wasn't necessary for me to see a specialist for my eating disorder so I ended up looking online for a local treatment center and calling them myself and having them request the referral from my PCP. And then they put me in the hospital right away. But when they told me that I had to go into the hospital...my parents wouldn't drive me to the hospital. I had to take a bus for 10 hours to get to the hospital. (drive would have only take 5 hours.) and then they didn't call or anything the entire time I was there.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:16:24 AM

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I've had doctors that were less than stellar. I had a pain management doc that I swear was high. She so was bad my last appt I took Himself with me. I was in so much pain and taking lots of meds at the time, I wanted to make sure it wasn't me. Well, it wasn't, we agreed I wouldn't go to her again.

Instead I use my rheumatologist to proscribe my pain meds. He's very thorough, and he never just treats symptoms, he's looking at my system as a whole.

I found a dermatologist I like and followed her when she moved 30 miles away. Good doctors have value to me and I try hard to keep them.

I have an idea the OP is incapable of establishing a healthy dynamic with her doctors, and that's an issue she needs to fix.

The main issue I've had with doctors is not having the ability to see someone else if the doctor sucks b/c I was living in a very small town and medicaid patients could only see certain doctors and there were no choices. But thankfully now I live right outside a pretty big city so I will have several options if I have a bad doctor.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:21:48 AM

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So which came first: your eating disorder (which began when you were quite young) or your weight gain?

Eating disorder came first. Didn't become over weight until I was an adult.

You began restricting when you were quite young and didn't need to lose weight.
You had no way of knowing that in doing so, you would be screwing up your metabolism and would be doing damage to your body in many small ways.

Recovery would be a slow process for you.
Instead of months to get your metabolism working again, it may take years.

And the thought of gaining that much weight when not being thin enough has always been a touchy spot must be scary.

You could be a candidate for bariatric surgery, but you would have to stop purging for a year.

You say you don't know anyone who has recovered from an eating disorder, but a part of eating disorders is the culture of it and non-recovery is a part of the culture.
If you want to recover from purging, then one of the things you will have to do is leave behind the culture of eating disorders.
Don't email, text or chat about it.
End!! your association with those who still do it and who are not wholly committed to getting well.

You couldn't very well expect someone who was an alcoholic to hang out in a bar with drinking friends and not drink.

You say you don't lie.
I believe you believe that to be true.

But not telling is lying by omission, and you do plenty of that.
You tell the truth, except for the parts you just leave out.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:26:56 AM

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Just ask about your heart and to have this checked, circulation problems, high BP, your heart can only take so much, there are a lot of reasons why your body may retain fluids, basically fluids and water would explain your weight gain, if you really are hardly eating and your cells are filled up with so much fluid, yes, you would gain a lot of weight in a very short time. People have said it all over again, you shouldn't be gaining or stagnating with your intake, so the only other thing that is left is fluid, if you get rid of some of it (again under supervision of a medical professional), your heart would have to pump less and your BP would automatically sink. You could try some very mild and natural diuretics, up your B5, B6 D3 and calcium intake a bit. Since money is an issue, you can pick dandelion leaf yourself, just make sure that you don't pick it near main roads due to the pollution.

Since your kidney results were fine, how is your liver?

I have an auto-immune problem (mainly causes a problem with my thyroid, Hashimoto's and is basically part of a lupus problem) diet is extremely important, not a problem if I have the occasional glass of wine or two, I just can't do it too often and there is a ton of food I need to avoid, I can be a bit uhhh careless, especially if I didn't have an outbreak for a long time and I might forget to take my vitamin supplements or might not make sure that my diet is as healthy as it should be, a really really nasty rash reminds me damned quick to pay more attention to it.

I'm really really concerned about your edema, it's the one thing that every person with congestive heart failure has in common.

Please have a look at this site, and if you tick more than one box of the symptoms, it's time to see a cardiologist. There is no need to trust my word for it, but I would assume you trust the Mayo Clinic's advise

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-failure/basics/symptoms/con-20029801

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:33:25 AM

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So which came first: your eating disorder (which began when you were quite young) or your weight gain?

Eating disorder came first. Didn't become over weight until I was an adult.

You began restricting when you were quite young and didn't need to lose weight.
You had no way of knowing that in doing so, you would be screwing up your metabolism and would be doing damage to your body in many small ways.

Recovery would be a slow process for you.
Instead of months to get your metabolism working again, it may take years.

And the thought of gaining that much weight when not being thin enough has always been a touchy spot must be scary.

You could be a candidate for bariatric surgery, but you would have to stop purging for a year.

You say you don't know anyone who has recovered from an eating disorder, but a part of eating disorders is the culture of it and non-recovery is a part of the culture.
If you want to recover from purging, then one of the things you will have to do is leave behind the culture of eating disorders.
Don't email, text or chat about it.
End!! your association with those who still do it and who are not wholly committed to getting well.

You couldn't very well expect someone who was an alcoholic to hang out in a bar with drinking friends and not drink.

You say you don't lie.
I believe you believe that to be true.

But not telling is lying by omission, and you do plenty of that.
You tell the truth, except for the parts you just leave out.

I won't give up my friends just b/c they're struggling the same as I am. They are the only reason I am alive right now. They are all trying to recover. If I were to go back into treatment, I would be surrounded by people with eating disorders. It's no different. It's not like we get together and binge/purge.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:38:30 AM

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Just ask about your heart and to have this checked, circulation problems, high BP, your heart can only take so much, there are a lot of reasons why your body may retain fluids, basically fluids and water would explain your weight gain, if you really are hardly eating and your cells are filled up with so much fluid, yes, you would gain a lot of weight in a very short time. People have said it all over again, you shouldn't be gaining or stagnating with your intake, so the only other thing that is left is fluid, if you get rid of some of it (again under supervision of a medical professional), your heart would have to pump less and your BP would automatically sink. You could try some very mild and natural diuretics, up your B5, B6 D3 and calcium intake a bit. Since money is an issue, you can pick dandelion leaf yourself, just make sure that you don't pick it near main roads due to the pollution.

Since your kidney results were fine, how is your liver?

I have an auto-immune problem (mainly causes a problem with my thyroid, Hashimoto's and is basically part of a lupus problem) diet is extremely important, not a problem if I have the occasional glass of wine or two, I just can't do it too often and there is a ton of food I need to avoid, I can be a bit uhhh careless, especially if I didn't have an outbreak for a long time and I might forget to take my vitamin supplements or might not make sure that my diet is as healthy as it should be, a really really nasty rash reminds me damned quick to pay more attention to it.

I'm really really concerned about your edema, it's the one thing that every person with congestive heart failure has in common.

Please have a look at this site, and if you tick more than one box of the symptoms, it's time to see a cardiologist. There is no need to trust my word for it, but I would assume you trust the Mayo Clinic's advise

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-failure/basics/symptoms/con-20029801

I take two different prescription diuretics everyday...can even take another different one if I want but I haven't been b/c I'm afraid of becoming dehydrated.

Liver enzymes were normal.

I will ask my PCP about seeing a cardiologist. I'm a bit worried b/c my BP was still a bit high today despite the addition of HCTZ. It was 134/94...which is a lot better than it was but still higher than I'd like to to be. I have already sent her an email requesting for a referral to an endocrinologist and a dietitian.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:44:55 AM

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Have you looked at the link and ticked more than one of the boxes? If so you should print it out and bring it with you to your next appointment. The clearer you make things for your doctor, the easier it is for him to act and refer you to a specialist

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:48:50 AM

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Have you looked at the link and ticked more than one of the boxes? If so you should print it out and bring it with you to your next appointment. The clearer you make things for your doctor, the easier it is for him to act and refer you to a specialist

I have several of those but most fat people do. Wouldn't my oxygen levels be low if I had heart failure? My oxygen was 100% today.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:53:56 AM

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Well here's the killer, a lot of fat people suffer from congestive heart failure.

Look, it's all up to you, I'm an ocean away, I can't go to the doctor with you, if you don't want to have your heart checked out, it's fine, it's your life, but I don't think the Mayo clinic would put stuff up if it wouldn't be well researched.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 9:55:49 AM

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 10:03:07 AM

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Well here's the killer, a lot of fat people suffer from congestive heart failure.

Look, it's all up to you, I'm an ocean away, I can't go to the doctor with you, if you don't want to have your heart checked out, it's fine, it's your life, but I don't think the Mayo clinic would put stuff up if it wouldn't be well researched.

I will ask my doctor if she thinks I need to see one. Just waiting to hear back from my last email right now. But like my EKG was normal a few months ago and my oxygen levels are good and the only person I know who has CHF is on oxygen b/c of it.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 10:04:39 AM

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http://blogs.residentialtreatmentcenter.com/best-eating-disorder-blogs.php
http://fyoured.com/
http://runfargirl.com/2012/06/06/life-after-bulimia/

I just talk to my friends who I've known for many years...I don't follow blogs or go to websites or anything like that.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 10:14:12 AM

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http://blogs.residentialtreatmentcenter.com/best-eating-disorder-blogs.php
http://fyoured.com/
http://runfargirl.com/2012/06/06/life-after-bulimia/

I just talk to my friends who I've known for many years...I don't follow blogs or go to websites or anything like that.

And that is why you don't know anyone who has recovered.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 10:16:29 AM

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http://blogs.residentialtreatmentcenter.com/best-eating-disorder-blogs.php
http://fyoured.com/
http://runfargirl.com/2012/06/06/life-after-bulimia/

I just talk to my friends who I've known for many years...I don't follow blogs or go to websites or anything like that.

And that is why you don't know anyone who has recovered.

yeah...they always relapse... :( we've lost two girls in our small group...another is close to death right now. *sighs* it's hard. but it makes me want to try harder.

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RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? - 2/18/2014 10:23:53 AM

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http://blogs.residentialtreatmentcenter.com/best-eating-disorder-blogs.php
http://fyoured.com/
http://runfargirl.com/2012/06/06/life-after-bulimia/

I just talk to my friends who I've known for many years...I don't follow blogs or go to websites or anything like that.

And that is why you don't know anyone who has recovered.

yeah...they always relapse... :( we've lost two girls in our small group...another is close to death right now. *sighs* it's hard. but it makes me want to try harder.

Being able to read stories of success will enable you to see it is possible.
It isn't that I think you should give up your support system.
It is that is is easier to recover around people who aren't sicker than you.
Being around it makes it normal.

If you don't see that recovery is possible then how are you ever going to know that it is possible.

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