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Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 11:35:49 AM   
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In my eyes, it is more about being a worthy Master as this will attract a worthy slave -- my question is how does one show a slave he is worthy of owning them?
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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 11:39:46 AM   
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It's not showy, flashy, or fast - but simply being honest and honorable.

I'll confess - I'm arrogant.  My own worthiness isn't something I spend much time worrying about, or worrying about displaying.  If they look, they'll see it - or not.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 11:43:40 AM   
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Field of dreams school of thought here. LOL

"If you build it they will come"

You simply live your life and let nature take it's course elp it along a little now and then by placing yourself where you will be noticed.

The people who will fit into your life well will just show up. Being ready for them when they do is the trick.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 11:54:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave

In my eyes, it is more about being a worthy Master as this will attract a worthy slave -- my question is how does one show a slave he is worthy of owning them?


Consistent integrity in both word and deed.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 11:54:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave

In my eyes, it is more about being a worthy Master as this will attract a worthy slave -- my question is how does one show a slave he is worthy of owning them?

I pretty much agree with what has already been stated. Just be yourself; don't try to be what others 'think' is the right way to be or act.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 12:06:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kalira

I pretty much agree with what has already been stated. Just be yourself; don't try to be what others 'think' is the right way to be or act.


Of course, if being himself is being a lying, cheating abusive scum bucket, that's probably not going to show anyone that he's worthy of owning a slave. ::laughs::

Personally, I would tend to question someone who has 'years in the lifestyle' according to his profile feeling the need to come in to a forum to ask other masters how he can show he's a worthy Master. With all those years under his belt, you'd think he'd know that already.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 12:12:47 PM   
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quote:

Of course, if being himself is being a lying, cheating abusive scum bucket, that's probably not going to show anyone that he's worthy of owning a slave. ::laughs::

Personally, I would tend to question someone who has 'years in the lifestyle' according to his profile feeling the need to come in to a forum to ask other masters how he can show he's a worthy Master. With all those years under his belt, you'd think he'd know that already.

LOL hmm...that's a very good point ...teach me to read a profile next time

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 1:44:35 PM   
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When you are recognized by your peers as such, you are.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 1:47:40 PM   
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I think for me it presents a quandary.

Since, at least in a forum such as this (online), you can only begin through the written word, it becomes interesting to attempt to write something (in a profile or an email) that someone will relate to specifically (he MUST be writing about me) that shows credibility.

Posts here to the contrary, I feel that sometimes some women (or men just wanting wank material) are looking to be 'taken' through the written word.  I am certainly able to in real life, but would never be so presumptious.

I don't fancy displaying ego.  So to say something about myself that shows the correct level of confidence and validity that I bring to the table seems such a delicate matter.

The only obvious way is seeming fluid and intelligent in the black-and-white that you read here.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 1:49:22 PM   
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I have had years of experience but the slaves I seem to attract are not worthy of being owned so I was wondering what I was doing wrong. Years of experience does not mean you are perfect and do not need the advice of those around you.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 1:52:14 PM   
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The only advice I have to offer is keeping your word and not trying to turn your slave into something she isn't.  Not anyone can fit the mold of the "perfect" slave anymore than one can be a "perfect" Dom.  All things take time and it's just a matter of sometimes sifting through a lot of wrong ones to get to the perfect one for YOU. 
 
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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 2:12:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave

I have had years of experience but the slaves I seem to attract are not worthy of being owned so I was wondering what I was doing wrong. Years of experience does not mean you are perfect and do not need the advice of those around you.


I actually disagree with you to a certain extent. No one is perfect, with that I agree, but years of experience in the lifestyle should have taken you well past the point of needing advice on so basic an issue. ::shrugs::

I'm sure you've heard the old saying about it being insane to continue to take the same course of action and expect a different result.

What, exactly is an unworthy slave? Maybe if you describe such, you'll get better advice than what I already gave you which was to be consistent in both word and deed.

Celeste

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 5:23:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave

I have had years of experience but the slaves I seem to attract are not worthy of being owned so I was wondering what I was doing wrong. Years of experience does not mean you are perfect and do not need the advice of those around you.


This right here tells me I would not want to be owned by one such as you.

What makes you decide if someone is worthy or not of being owned..The only thing you can determine is whether or not they are right for you.

Try taking the arrogance down a peg..might help.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 5:27:26 PM   
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Personally, I think it's a matter of taste - except the integrity part seems pretty universal. Someone consistent as far as what they claim they want and what they want from you always helps, probably (which isn;t to say negotiations as far as "limits", etc., are carved in stone - but rather they are discussed and agreed upon).

I like someone who can think, and has a sense of humor, or at least is creative. That's just me, though.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 5:30:02 PM   
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Slave one was a drug addict, con artist, liar and thief with a criminal record -- back ground check plus a call from the FBI proved those facts.
The second was lazy, a con artist and a thief.
The reason I ask is not to attract such in the future -- I was over trusting to start with and am afraid I have gone overboard in the opposite direction.
I have chatted with several slaves and subs plus gone out with a few but in person it seemed almost stilted even though I tried to relax. Guess I have been out of the dating circuit too long.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 5:48:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave
I was over trusting to start with and am afraid I have gone overboard in the opposite direction.


Given your track record, I don't think it's unreasonable to be a bit paranoid about those you've been meeting. Sounds like you've had some lousy luck with finding quality, but at the same time, over compensating and being overly critical of prospective submissives isn't going to warm up your collar any quicker either. You just need to locate the happy medium. One way to do that is don't worry so much about finding someone and just go out there and have some fun meeting people, engaging with those whom you feel a chemistry or energy and going with the flow. In other words, just have some fun for a bit and shelve the search. She'll find you when you're ready to be found .. and not a second before that.

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I have chatted with several slaves and subs plus gone out with a few but in person it seemed almost stilted even though I tried to relax. Guess I have been out of the dating circuit too long.


Probably. Try taking a bubble bath and listening to some mood music before you go out. Then leave the expectations at home and always make plans that include something 'fun' .. dorky fun is usually best because that gets you to laughing .. dorky fun at something you're not very good at is a hoot.

Good luck,

Celeste

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 5:52:23 PM   
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I understand what you meant by this because of what you went on to say, and I agree with that, but there is a different "If you build it they will come" approach that I DON'T think works.  I'm talking about the men who think they have to build a beacon tower to make themselves attractive to females, so they end up doing all kinds of artificial things that don't reflect who they really are, but reflect what they think females want to see in a man.  That can range from buying fancy cars to adopting a public persona that doesn't reflect their true character.  (It's also amply attested behavior in mammals from top to bottom.)  Those men don't do too well in the long run because women soon discover that they're not with the man they thought they were falling in love with.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 6:28:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sirseeksslave

Slave one was a drug addict, con artist, liar and thief with a criminal record -- back ground check plus a call from the FBI proved those facts.
The second was lazy, a con artist and a thief.
The reason I ask is not to attract such in the future -- I was over trusting to start with and am afraid I have gone overboard in the opposite direction.
I have chatted with several slaves and subs plus gone out with a few but in person it seemed almost stilted even though I tried to relax. Guess I have been out of the dating circuit too long.


Try not to take what some on here say to you as offensive, they are just bitter for one reason or another and feel the need to make others bitter.

As for your experience and the question you ask, I understand where you are coming from.  You have experience, just bad ones and you want to know if  your not doing something right and attracting the wrong type of subs/slaves.

Some things you may want to look at or think about:

1) How well  do you get to know a girl?maybe you are having problems with identifying what her true intentions are. In the real world their is always that physical aspect., it sometimes hinder the ability to see a persons personality. You may want to try to becoming friends with a few subs/slaves online, where you are forced to base  your interest  in a person on  the mental aspect . You talk to enough people on here and you learn to read between the lines. IMO, it helps a person to learn to read people in real life between  the lines regardless of the physical aspect.

2) maybe its not who your attracting but who you are settling for. their could be nothing wrong ( and in most cases i would say probably isnt)  with the way you  Dom. But personally ( in real life) i may go through 20 subs before i even consider considering one. Their are alot of subs out their and they are not all for me or my type. maybe your just settling for one the first few that come along.

3) you seem to  have lost alot of self confidence or  maybe you didnt have alot to  to start out with for one reason or another.  subs( and subs you will have to forgive me  for this comparasion)  are alot like babies in this aspect. if you hold a baby and you are nervous or scared or otherwise show a lack of confidence, they sense it and it  upsets them and makes them very uneasy. Subs are  similar in that if you show a lack of confidence in yourself  they sense it. Subs want/need a confindent Master/Dom . You are someone  they are handing over control, at least in part, to. They need to see your confident you can handle that and them and they need to be able to trust that you can.  If you seem unsure or uncertain or nervous or edgy, they are going to have a hard time trusting you or handing control over to you. This may also put them off you all togather, as in their eyes, you dont seem ready to take control of them.

4) maybe your basing who to take as a sub/slave more on interests and/or physical attraction.  The menu can have all the things you like, and the waitress may be ready to take your order, but if you cant  read the menu, it isnt doing you any good.  What i mean here is maybe she has the physical attraction and maybe she  shares the same interest but if her personality isnt compatible with yours, the first two arent going to matter in a  serious relationship. Perhaps you should  focus more on her personality

These opinions are based, of course, on the info you gave. One of them may be your problem or all of them or none of them.

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 6:47:29 PM   
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Try not to take what some on here say to you as offensive, they are just bitter for one reason or another and feel the need to make others bitter.



<laffin> ..so now you are the decider of everyone's motivation for responding to the posts..

too funny

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RE: Showing you are a worthy Master - 12/4/2006 7:03:20 PM   
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How do I show someone they can love me?
How do I show someone they can love me?
How do I show someone they can like me?
How do I show someone they can respect me?

I think the answer to the OP's post is that they are looking at it from the wrong perspective. I am a strong believer that we need not go around building an empire for all to see. Just walk the Earth as a good a person as you can be in yourself and it is the sub who will realise that you are worthy. You don't need to show them a specific aspect of your worthiness, you just need to be true to yourself.

There is the old addage that 'Trust can't be ordered, it must be earnt'.

Personally, my addage in life is 'Walk quietly and carry a big stick!'

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