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RE: References - 12/29/2006 4:03:43 PM   
MadRabbit


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Who was it that said...

"Anyone living in America these days who's not paranoid, must be crazy...."

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RE: References - 12/29/2006 4:11:20 PM   
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Dear MadRabbit, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I don't recall who wrote/said that phrase; "Anyone living in America these days who's not paranoid, must be crazy..."  But, if memory serves me correctly, it was seemingly said after 9-11.
 
But, I can assure you--it wasn't me who said it!  But, somebody else has to be a 'keen' on Americans.
 
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RE: References - 12/29/2006 4:17:29 PM   
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My apologies, LadyHugzs. I wasnt directing that comment towards you. I thought it was an apporiate quote for the jist of the entire discussion.

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RE: References - 12/29/2006 4:31:41 PM   
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Dear MadRabbit,
 
No worries!  No apologies needed but, appreciated.  Just thought you were asking me.  But, I like the 'camera shot' that this.  It proves that we (in a general sense) don't know it all.  That makes it all the more human and all the more genuine.
 
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RE: References - 12/29/2006 4:37:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I am not responding to any one particular and or post made.
 
I do want to mention, that to some life is a fanstasy, as it seems to good to be true.  Yet, to some who have lived it--they see it as their personal reality. 
 
We have witnessed in the media, where the 'rich kids' with money and will inherit money, live in their own little social circles.  They had no idea how other people lived and how hard they were trying to make it through life, just to maintain a bit of comfort.  With the average person connected to the rich, famous and nobility class kids, they had to work as a team.  Each learned lessons big time--it was more valuable then the money won.  Both sides learned 'respect.'
 
Further,  I want to add, that the individuals who live across the pond, in the UK, Australia, New Zeland, Germany, Italy, Austria, etc.; have their own culture which exposes them to seeing things in so many ways differently, similiar and spot on.  It would be a shame not to take advantage of some 'cross-culture' training and how they see through their mind's eyes. 
 
In addition, I would like to proffer the thought about those who are abroad and are active lifestyle.  They may have references in quantity and quality.  I think in my mind's eyes I see; that it is regretable that across the seas their references, their qualifications and the like are held in low regard.  I am sure it can be in reverse; the reason I say this--what is big name in leather circles in the USA, may not be in France, Australia, and or Spain, etc.  So, it really goes down to the boiler plate of dealing with individuals with and or without references.  At times, there is no way to validate references abroad.  There are times where it is impossible to validate references, as they're abroad and passed on, etc.
 
In summary, we (in a general sense) are duty bound to exhaust all the resources we have at our (in general sense) disposal but, to keep an open mind to others who cannot provide references for a good many honest reasons.  There are a lot of players and gamers in the scene as well as in the vanilla, the work place and so forth.  Furthermore, in my mind's eyes I see; that using quotes of another person; perhaps in the leather community, local leadership and articles; they are good references to read but; it boils down to their expression of their personal beliefs.  Some individuals are known to be anti- this or that, which taints the knowledge and or information.  Whereas, the lifestyle is a 'general' thing.  What makes it 'our' (in general and in a possessive manner) lifestyle; is what we (in general) do in our own homes, castles, ranch, apartment, townhouse, RV, penthouse, double wide house trailer and other dwellings and or spaces.  

I don't think the fact that my being an Aussie necessarily means there's simply a geographical cultural difference in question here.  While Rover, LordODiscipline, Archer and emdoub are all Americans (I think... lol) and the ones I've generally argued most with, judging by some of the other responses and private mail I've since received, not all Americans perceive the alleged importance of references the same way as them.
 
And just because they've virtually presented a combined front in support of 'references'; a quick glance over at the 'trainers' thread paints a different picture than simply a particular national culture or even a "community" culture difference to my BDSM views.  The "Midnight Writer" (emdoub) esp just seems to enjoy being combative even though his preferred weapon is merely a colourful array of vacuous witticisms.  Yet he does have "other things to do, and can't live online", don'tcha know....
 
Focus.

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RE: References - 12/31/2006 6:28:22 PM   
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References are only as good as those that are providing them.

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