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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/4/2011 2:47:53 PM

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Looking at the "night follows day" and the response of "day follows night"

Ummm...I was cracking a joke

I know you were - and it gave me one of the best laughs of the thread! It's just that all of the other examples in the thread were pretty loaded, so this seemed a pretty innocent example to use.

Thanks, and sorry for appearing to have missed the joke!

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/4/2011 3:13:11 PM

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All I know is that when I go to a BDSM personals site and write emails while pictures of a girls dripping cum from their mouths and taking large dildos up the ass scroll down in the right hand column, I think to myself "God, I am so happy to be part of this non-sexual, mentally, spiritually and socially enriched lifestyle".

Edited to Add: And when I go to a historical lecture on Leather culture and get to look at slides of pictures from 30 years ago of some gay man fisting another gay man up the ass, I also think "Wow, how even more non-sexual, mentally, spiritually, and socially enriched things were back then..."

I was going to make this observation myself, but you have done so brilliantly. When I log onto CM, I'm always struck by the ads for meditation, Tai Chi, feng shui, and homemaking.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/4/2011 7:21:44 PM

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That is because they are marketing to the lowest denominator....those that will spend the money. Kinda like those evil, much maligned, money dommes.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/4/2011 9:31:21 PM

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No its a lifestyle for me one i enjoy its a lot more complex than just being sexual

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 5:12:48 AM

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Greetings

BDSM have little to do with sex to me, yes the sex part is interesting to, but the main part is how it makes me feel. I have been fascinated by slavery since I was a child when I used to play that my dolls where alien princesses and that I where there slaves, fetching clothes, tea and in general way taking care of them, and other such games, this was long before I had any concept of sex. To me BDSM is more kneeling by someone's feet while watching a movie than having at it in bed.

I wish you well

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 6:22:53 AM

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Number four, the reason this thread is a clusterfuck is that it started with people discussing their own personal experiences on exactly that higher level of thought, and then Hannah pragmatically pointed out that BDSM is rooted in the sex drive (though it was likely a mistake to have done that, I would have, too - the "we're more complex!" back-patting was nauseating), and people fell over themselves taking offense that someone was invalidating their personal experience/spirituality/sparkly magic/whatever.

Feh.

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So tell me is it really about sex for most people?

I can't answer for "most people", I can only answer for myself...hence, the personal experience response.
I'm curious to know what makes anyone more/better qualified to answer for "most people" moreso than anyone else and why that would seem to negate the "personal experience/spirituality/sparkly magic/whatever" in any way?

edited to finish my thought

I don't think I can respond to this directly without losing my temper, so let me use a completely different example.

I have some friends who love the MBTI. Some of these people would describe themselves as "Feelers," meaning that they believe their emotions primarily drive the decisions they make. Others would identify themselves as "Thinkers," meaning that they see the decisions they make as based in logic.

Now, think whatever you will of the MBTI, but these self-identifications are valid in the sense that they are a short-hand way for some people to express their personal, subjective experience about how they make decisions and judgements. That's fine, and in that sense, it's not "wrong." No one would be more qualified to speak to that personal experience than the person in question.

But from the perspective of human biology, it's completely wrong. None of us make decisions based on things we consciously think or feel, at least not deliberately; we all rationalize afterward decisions that were already made on a lower level.

Getting offended about that because your "personal experience" is that you are a "Thinker" is ridiculous. You aren't even discussing the same thing.

My point is that this discussion is confusing issues in a similar way.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 6:34:45 AM

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Oh please. When will everyone figure out that in this context, sex does not mean fucking?

Apparently NEVER, judging by the fact that you posted this on page 10, and half the posters still haven't wrapped their noodles around the concept and are replying dumbly with, "But what if my sub/slave/cat litter scooper/Master/Mistress/Grand Poobah and I don't have sex? Huh? Huh?"

On a BDSM board. Oh, crushed by the fucking anvil of irony.

I mean, even if you and the people who agree with you are totally wrong, it doesn't matter because most other posters aren't grasping what's being said to start with, so they can hardly prove it.

/done with this stupid thread

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 7:48:33 AM

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You poor darling! Getting upset over a few posts made by complete strangers on a forum.

I hope you deal with actual, real life, issues in a much more stressful manner.

Then again, you are 'done with this stupid thread'.....

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 7:56:50 AM

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I don't think I can respond to this directly without losing my temper, so let me use a completely different example.

How very sad. It's probably a good thing you've decided to be done with this thread, given that it (and "feeling" folks like myself) frustrates you so easily.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 8:02:11 AM

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I certainly HOPE it's not all about sex. I'm 50 now so I have to stop fucking or getting blown for at LEAST a coupla hours a day.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 11:20:54 AM

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It's very rarely about sex for me. Chiefly, it's about wanking.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 11:39:57 AM

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It's very rarely about sex for me. Chiefly, it's about wanking.

I am sure wanking is sex. I admit I am no expert in these matters.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 12:52:00 PM

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Read my lips: I never had sex with that mirror!

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 2:04:29 PM

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I'm trying to think of a response more pointless than a smug, insincere, "I'm sorry you are feeling [emotion]," and cannot think of one. Do you feel nice and superior now? Perhaps you need to lift a leg and pee on my post first.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 2:11:13 PM

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Trust me, there was no emotion involved. But it worked..........apparently you are not as "done with this stupid thread" as you said you were.

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 3:12:30 PM

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Oh please. When will everyone figure out that in this context, sex does not mean fucking?

Apparently NEVER, judging by the fact that you posted this on page 10, and half the posters still haven't wrapped their noodles around the concept and are replying dumbly with, "But what if my sub/slave/cat litter scooper/Master/Mistress/Grand Poobah and I don't have sex? Huh? Huh?"

On a BDSM board. Oh, crushed by the fucking anvil of irony.

I mean, even if you and the people who agree with you are totally wrong, it doesn't matter because most other posters aren't grasping what's being said to start with, so they can hardly prove it.

/done with this stupid thread

Right, so when you both read the OP, which traditionally sets the context, you really think that the phrase "kinky sex" and the question "So tell me is it really about sex for most people?" is really intended to refer to our primal sexuality and/or our basic instinct to procreate rather than good old sticky sex?

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 3:14:15 PM

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OT I know, but... I had a female flatmate who used to describe her nightly wank as "Playing the lady ukulele"

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 3:53:27 PM

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Enchanting! I heart the ukelele!

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 4:59:53 PM

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Sunny
Quote of the Day
goes to
BeanTwiceOver

for
crushed by the fucking anvil of irony.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3793256/mpage_12/tm.htm#3796968

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RE: Is It Really All About Sex? - 8/5/2011 5:08:38 PM

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To me it about a chance to relinquish control and let it all go. A chance to trust someone else completely with the choices and decisions and rules.
Sex is a bonus!!!!!!

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