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Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 1:37:48 PM   
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This is pretty dark, definitely disgusting and so hard to write that I'm already crying and I haven't started yet. Don't put too much stock into that .. I'm menopausal and I shared something last night with a rather remarkable woman and it's effecting me more than I had supposed it would so, you know, I woke up crying. ::shrugs:: No biggie.

Some you come to this thing we do from a very bad place. This is for you guys. The ones who aren't really there. The ones who are hanging by a thread. Maybe you're afraid to let anyone know it. Maybe you just sit up in the rafters and read and wonder if anyone else feels like you do. Ever felt like you do. Maybe you the ones who know that some form of attention, any attention, is better than non-existance and by doing the most vile, the most disgusting, the most degrading activities, you are, at least, doing them for someone else and, by god, for those brief moments, you matter. Even if all your actions do is provide interludes of entertainment for the cruelest of humans, they are still more than you ever have been or ever could be. There's no one lower. No one who matters less. The worst of humanity is miles above you.

Yeah. I get it. I really, really get it and yeah, I'm talking, specifically, to you.

I existed on water & one can a day of dog food as my only source of nourishment for 7 solid days because I refused to eat a fresh tomato. I'm allergic and break out into hives, so this was designed to humble me and get me over my vanity. (btw: it worked) This was to teach me to be grateful for what I'm allowed.

The first day, it took me over three and a half hours to get it down. On day three, even though I was getting acclimated to the taste, my stomach, literally, recoiled at the thought of eating it again and I vomited after the first bite. Thank god I had so little in me because I was forced to eat that, too, 'for wasting'. I cried. Fuck, I cried and cried and cried and yet, I'm the one who allowed it to go on. I'm the one who never said no. I'm the one who made the choice and I'm the one who had so little self-esteem that if someone treated me like an absolute piece of shit, I adored them for it because it was, still, ultimately another human who 'saw' me. I did exist in their eyes. I might not have had a speck of value.. but I was here, damn it. That meant something. Back then, any hand hold a lifeline.

I fucked up (I fucked up a lot, but then he put me into positions designed to make me fuck up as well) another time and god damn bastard gave me a choice of eating his shit or eating more dog food.

I choose the dog food. I can't fucking believe it. I sat there and made a choice to eat dog food as if I only had those two choices. Eat shit or eat dog food. I didn't even see that I had the choice to say, you know what, man, you're a sick muther fucker and I'm so done with this.

Gods, why couldn't I see that back then? In retrospect I know why .. being blinded by darkness is absolute. You can be blinded by the light and yet pass a hand in front and you can block it out. That just not available when you are so steeped in blackness. There aren't shadows in blackness .. there's just.. well, nothing.

Eventually, there came a time when eating shit wasn't a choice. Well, in my mind there were no choices except to do or die so, you know, whatever. That man put me through some crazy ass shit, torture, literally, and other shit, a lot of it involving the general public who were mostly unaware except for some truckers who go up and down The Bayshore and I did it all and after the dog food, I did it all without question. And the harder he drove me, the more he humilated me, the more pain he inflicted on my body and mind, the worse I felt.

A bad place. Really, really bad. The worst thing of it all, though .. that sorta shit made me so fucking hot. I mean, bounce off the walls, someone, something, please fuck me 'cuz I'm going to fucking die if I don't get something shoved up my cunt and, of course, because I wanted that so desperately, it just never happened. One orgasm in three years. That's it. Just one. He was old and impotent long before I ever met him and that sort of thing didn't interest him and I was the wrong fucking gender to boot. I don't know why he let me cum that one time. It was actually fairly early on, so maybe it was out of pity although I never saw him bestow even a microsecond of compassion on anyone.

Anyway, ugh, fuck.

Sorry.. need a break.

Okay, so I'm not here to tell you that you have value. I'm not here to offer you pity or even compassion if you're in that bad place. I'm just here to say that I've been there myself and now I'm not. I'm just here to say, you're not the only one. When you're steeped in absolute darkness, you can't hear, can't see, can't even feel, maybe the knowledge that someone, once, was in that room, too, can help. Maybe just knowing that there is someone else out there who, if nothing else, sorta understands .. maybe that's just enough of a pin prick of light so that when you're ready to crawl out of the blackness, you'll have a direction to go.

You know, if you do all the shit I did and it comes from a healthy place, then this isn't directed at you. You already know your value.  It's for the other ones. The ones who've misplaced their own humanity. Okay?

Celeste


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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 1:49:00 PM   
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Where's the disgusting part?  I suppose the emptiness you felt could be, but it causes more of an aching in me than anything.

My only issue is that allergic reactions can often increase in intensity with repeated break outs.  So that would be a concern I would have beyond vanity is that it might make the allergy worse or have a worse reaction than expected that time.

You were there, it brought you here.


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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 2:07:31 PM   
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What I participated in from a bad place rather than from a good place is disgusting to me. Where I'm at now, with Himself, all those same sorts of activities would be inspiring. It's total mindset, pure and simple.

The allergic reaction to tomatos and my refusal to eat them was just the reason of the day for him. It could have been anything and was, on various days, for no reasons at all other than he liked what he did and I never said no after the tomatos.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 2:36:17 PM   
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Many of us have stepped on glass to climb through the window.

The fresh air we find on the other side gives us strength.

If only it had happened today, have you seen the gourmet
things they put in pet food these days? i'll bring the crackers,
cause it just goes to show where the strength really lies.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 2:45:49 PM   
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just not the pet food from china....

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 2:47:39 PM   
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Jesus H Crist...
 
You never cease to amaze me Celeste; with your amazing and positive outlook on everything...who knew?
 
Thank you for sharing................again,
Beverly


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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 2:56:07 PM   
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Celeste, thank you. Not because I have been there but because you've helped me to understand people I love that have or are.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 3:02:22 PM   
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Thanks so much, Celeste...for sharing.  I have been there, too...got there by a different path, but I know that place, and I know how alone, abandoned, utterly hopeless and stuck one can feel when they are there.  The darkness can be all encompassing.  Maybe you just let the light peek through for somebody else that's there right now... 

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 6:00:54 PM   
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You are amazing for putting this out there.  And you shine a different light on those of us who come down this path from such a dark and disturbing place.  Those of us who did not seek out D/s for "therapy" but because our paths led us here...and yet those paths, however cruel they may have been, ultimately led us to discover who we truly are.

My own past nightmare was different than yours, but still dark, still tormenting, and still resulting in me feeling so worthless I made two attempts on my life and ended up begging for any man's cock in my mouth because for that brief moment in time, I felt like I mattered.  I know that blackness well.

What you describe - the inability to see light or shadows - is why so many drowining in their darkness can't take that extended hand which offers help.  Offer it till you're blue in the face, shake the poor souls hoping to rattle some sense into them, but they are numb and blind to it, immune to goodness until they (hopefully) some day come upon it themselves.

Periodically I think about my past - those sleep deprived nights, being told I could not be trusted as a mother so no children for me, isolated from friends and family, convinced I was mentally ill, told that masturbating was cheating on him (so years after holding back I finally did it, and thus was convinced I was a cheater...and went on to men since I was already tainted), allowed sex (but not orgasms) only if I fantasized about fucking my sisters and cousins, living nearly 20 years all about him so that when I finally left I went grocery shopping for the first time and cried in the isle because I had no idea what I actually liked (I ended up just going home with oreos and milk, remembering I liked that in my childhood), drinking excessively and opening my mouth to any man who wanted to stick his cock in it, because it was the only way I felt wanted...

And yet like you, here I am.  That is my history.  This is my present.  In my desperation I came upon a beautiful man who taught me to value myself.  He taught me that it's ok to ask for help.  He taught me how to find happiness, and that I am good.  He sent me back to my family, like the prodigal son, and they tearfully welcomed me with open arms.  He taught me to know myself, and to learn how to make friends, since I had not made a friend in too many years to remember.  He taught me about relationships, and how to express myself, and how strong I really am.  He taught me how to express the love I had in me, hidden in the darkest corners afraid to come out. 

And yet he was no knight in shining armor.  He was tough, intolerant of BS, consistent, and demanding.  He saw my inner light and had a vision for me, and pushed me to it.  I could follow or not, it was up to me.  I would not be coddled.  I would not be pampered.  I would be expected to reach high and grab the bar, and discover what life can be when I did.

We are in the light now.  But I do not forget the darkness.  It keeps me humble.  It makes me more grateful to this man I call Master (or Mr. Wonderful, heh) than words can express.  It is why I desire to give him more and more of myself.  Because words can only be repeated so often before they feel diluted.  Master does some "outrageous" things to me (outrageous being relative), but only because I beg him for them, so that I can reach deeper and deeper down into my core and offer more of myself up to him for the taking.    And he takes me with great care and consideration, ensuring my well being, and guiding me to become stronger than I ever realized I could be.

So our paths led us here.  And to those in that darkness, may you also find your own inner light.




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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 6:28:58 PM   
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That was a very powerful thing to read.

Thank you for sharing, Celeste.


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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 10:00:38 PM   
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Thank you for the courage to post this thread! I am still not comfortable enough to open up about my own life, not sure I ever will be, but I am able to walk away from reading this thread with a thankfulness. I am thankful that I reached a place where I am healthy in what I do. And I am learning my value. I hope your post touches someone who is struggling with it.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 10:23:20 PM   
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Bita thank you for sharing your self here so openly.  i like the distinction you make between it being able to come from a pace of darkness or a healthy place where you know and understand your value.  How did you remove yourself from this darkness, was it a definitive action that occured or a slow progression towards the light? 



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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/7/2007 11:12:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

Bita thank you for sharing your self here so openly.  i like the distinction you make between it being able to come from a pace of darkness or a healthy place where you know and understand your value.  How did you remove yourself from this darkness, was it a definitive action that occured or a slow progression towards the light? 




Master A used to write this incredible passages and I was truly awed by how profound they were. Those passages spoke to every demon within me and I grabbed on to them like a drowning man holds a life preserver. I wouldn't call them affirming, but they were absolutely real to me. They were honest and raw and I related to them in ways that amazed me for the effect they had on me.

One day, I was cleaning out the closet and I found this book (of poetry and prose) hidden under the linens. I'm a voracious reader and just opened it and began to read what was there and I was stunned. It was word for word one of the passages that I thought Master A had penned for me alone. Rage has a wonderful way of making you 'feel'. Rage is almost tangible in substance and it courses through you and for the first time in my life, I felt powerful and I got it. I recognized my true value in those moments as I read that passage. Flipping through that book, I read more and more words, all copied by him, and I burned. I guess you could say it was sort of like a trial by fire. That fire was so fucking hot that darkness didn't stand a chance against it. That was the first step in a process that took years. Recognizing is one thing, accepting quite another. The one regret I have is that I was so enraged that I failed to think to look at the name of the book. Although I don't need them anymore, those passage spoke to me at one time and I never did get to read the rest of them.

I don't blame Master A for anything other than the lie. I was in that bad place long before I met him and that wasn't his fault in any way. In fact, if it hadn't been for that lie, I don't know how, when or even if I would have left that darkness. For that I'm grateful because some good came from it. I guess that's why I hold so strong to the belief that everything happens for a reason, even if you can't see it at the time. I needed to go through all that shit so that I could burn off my demons with the ensuing fire. Himself doesn't really understand that and blames Master A. Along with recognizing and accepting my value, I was able to also accept my own culpability for my circumstance and while there may have been some individuals in my past who were responsible for my initial placement in that darkness, I, and I alone, kept myself there.

Celeste

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 2:23:11 AM   
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Wow! Wonderful posts.  Tops Michael's Insecurity post or at the very least equals it.  Two best posts I've read since I started reading the forums.

How long between the rage and the final goodbye?  Did he let you go easily or was there drama?  When you did leave was the adjustment a quick one or did you have to resist the urge to go back to him?

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 2:42:08 AM   
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Celeste;
 
         Amazingly powerful post. Words pale but, suffice it to say that I have a new insight into who you are and I have gained immense respect for you.
 
 
 
 
 
                            Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 2:57:19 AM   
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Celeste, a very powerful post and one that will help others to see they are not alone in the way they feel after being taken advantage of by someone.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 5:09:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
I needed to go through all that shit so that I could burn off my demons with the ensuing fire. Himself doesn't really understand that and blames Master A. Along with recognizing and accepting my value, I was able to also accept my own culpability for my circumstance and while there may have been some individuals in my past who were responsible for my initial placement in that darkness, I, and I alone, kept myself there.


Ahh, the Reminder... When someone can care about you deeply, and know so much about you... And still in their hearts either refuse to understand, or refuse to believe some of the places that your mind has been. Must be a victim, because you can't be an accomplice to that.

Regrettable. And more so because... what will They think of you if it really does sink in? Always a little worry to spare for that.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 8:17:08 AM   
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Thank you Celeste, and owned as well, for both your words and experiences.

It humbles me sometimes to see and understand the difficulties and pain that people go through sometimes to get to where they are.  It makes me look at myself and those around me and realize It's not as bad as it could be.

It also makes me think and wonder Why?
"to each their own" I guess, but it sickens me to know and hear that there are people like this around.
Words cannot describe the..  feelings I have about such.
This added to the fact that this is not the first time I've heard stories like this, it has happened far more than I'd like to know about.
Furthermore it makes you wonder where such men are now...  Are they with a new slave?  breaking her down, thrusting her into the darkness that far too many know far too well.

::shrugs sadly::

Thank you again.  I know it wasn't easy, but hopefully your words help to pull someone away from and out of the depths of the blackness.

If everyone in the world, cared about each other than they do now, would that make for a better world, or better people?   If it's one where this sort of stuff never happens again...  does it really matter?

Not to me.   :)

Just my thoughts.  Thank you.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 11:05:38 AM   
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Thank you for this. I never went into the total blackness in my physical self, my inner, emotional self was there for a long time. I'm doing better now, due to some very sane Dominants and submissives in my life, and I would probably be able to do the dark stuff from a good place now. But I'm still very, very careful who gets access to my core submissiveness just in case.

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RE: Feelings of worthlessness - 9/8/2007 11:09:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave


Ahh, the Reminder... When someone can care about you deeply, and know so much about you... And still in their hearts either refuse to understand, or refuse to believe some of the places that your mind has been. Must be a victim, because you can't be an accomplice to that.

Regrettable. And more so because... what will They think of you if it really does sink in? Always a little worry to spare for that.



You know, in the end, what he thinks of me, while important, isn't the be all end all of my existance. What "I" think of me is, truly, what's most important. I know in my heart, I can survive anything now and if there are further consequences that I have to face because of who I used to be, I'm prepared to face them head on so, no worries here.

Celeste

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