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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:19:01 PM   
slavebilly15


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Status: offline 		yes, i am a "no limits" submissive.
Basically i love all aspects of the /s lifestyle and really have no regard or care if i am on this earth or not. Therefore why should i care about limits?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:38:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavebilly15

yes, i am a "no limits" submissive.
Basically i love all aspects of the /s lifestyle and really have no regard or care if i am on this earth or not. Therefore why should i care about limits?

we have a winner!

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:45:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		For those who claim to have "no limits" in a literal sense: does that include kidnapping, murder and other illegal activities?


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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:45:22 PM   
texancutie


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Status: offline 		Wondering if that was tongue in cheek...lol.  Technically speaking most people have limits of dismemberment, death, things that put you in hospitals, moral limits like minors and other things at the very least.  I didn't take the ops post of no limits to include those kinds of extremes I guess....you know, the things that damage your physical health or mental sanity.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:51:55 PM   
daddysprop247


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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

If he gets a brain tumor and goes crazy from it ... I see absolutely no good reason why they shouldn't be allowed to make such a decision for themselves.



With respect, are we now saying it is okay for clinically insane people to be involved in BDSM?

Assuming such an individual is not institutionalized for his own safety, since when did the BDSM community agree that those who are not "Sane" can effectively and competently make decisions with respect to their participation in BDSM?

How far down the ladder of insanity do we go before it is "not ok"?

on edit: I'll make clear this is in the context of a verifiable organic disorder affecting cognitive processes (ie a brain tumour). Non-organic disorders is yet another can of worms waiting to be opened.



first, not all D/s or M/s lifestylers consider themselves part of the "bdsm community", so do not believe in or live by the popularly accepted tenets (such as SSC) of said community. as a slave to my Master, he has the right (according to our beliefs and how we define M/s) to do with me as he wills, for as long as he wishes to own me. i have no right to terminate the relationship or attempt to leave him, and certainly no right to refuse him anything. this does not change if one day he goes completely crazy.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 6:52:59 PM   
Bobkgin


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Status: offline 		I'm wondering if anyone else is thinking Bernardo/Homolka.

Are those talking about "no limits" referring to the Hannibal Lector kind of "no limits"?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 7:33:27 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

You can not possibly speak for every one in the entire lifestyle who has ever or is ever in a D/s relationship.

There's one person on here who's very much no limits, and while I am not free to speak for her nor do I wish to, because I only know her from what she posts, she'd do anything, and has so before, for her Master.
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

I hate chest beaters. We all have limits-death is a limit.



Submitting is a bit difficult for a corpse.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 7:34:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

i would say where fantasy runs amuk.. Where the separation between reality and imagination go to far.


Bingo, most realistic thing anyone said in this thread.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 7:43:44 PM   
AMaster


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Status: offline 		There is no such thing as a no limits slave.  The sport is in finding her limits.


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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 7:56:52 PM   
texancutie


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Status: offline 		Well...I can't speak for anyone on the message boards.  Have never met a single person that posts to it.  For all I know this could all be a figment of my imagination.  In that case, why couldn't I have dreamt up a nice tropical island with wonderful beaches, perfect temperatures, great scuba diving teeming with sea life, a beautiful home with the best play room in the world, great, friendly, lifestyle people living all over the island, and the most wonderful, realistic 24/7 relationship to be found on the planet.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:07:50 PM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: texancutie

Well...I can't speak for anyone on the message boards.  Have never met a single person that posts to it.  For all I know this could all be a figment of my imagination.  In that case, why couldn't I have dreamt up a nice tropical island with wonderful beaches, perfect temperatures, great scuba diving teeming with sea life, a beautiful home with the best play room in the world, great, friendly, lifestyle people living all over the island, and the most wonderful, realistic 24/7 relationship to be found on the planet.


The line for wish fulfillment starts somewhere behind me

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:15:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
as a slave to my Master, he has the right (according to our beliefs and how we define M/s) to do with me as he wills, for as long as he wishes to own me. i have no right to terminate the relationship or attempt to leave him, and certainly no right to refuse him anything. this does not change if one day he goes completely crazy.


well, i would call that codependency not consensual slavery, but sure...go for it...i can't stop you...


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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 3:05:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've read about -mainly lesbians- who don't like the view of male genitals and some of them just want to chop them of because they want boys to serve them. Others like to have a collection to display. 
Mainly dreams I think, because of the legal  and the financial aspect. When it comes from the slaves themselves: Who cares what they want? It's the same attitude again: I want this, I want that and I want to be your slave. Toppuing from the bottom I'd say.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 3:30:46 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		I meant that each one has to decide for him or herself BEFORE they enter into a no limits relationship.  The question you asked, if you are taking this stance, answers itself.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 5:56:22 AM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		and i have been in a situation where gay men refused to let me and my female friends play in a play space because we were not genetically male...i think they thought our pink bits were contageous....wait...what was the point of this post?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 7:00:21 AM   
kikinymph


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Status: offline 		oy.. Sire says that he doesn't break his toys.  As submissive (he says I'm a submissive lol... but I say, because he calls me pet, I am neither sub or slave... I'm a pet!  solves that debate nicely.)  I can't get his coffee, or make dinner if I'm broken or dead, true enough.  And he wouldn't want to do something that he can imagine causing me enough mental stress to cause resentment.  Since we are all HUMAN (well, at least I hope so, and if you aren't, email me privately please) then we should all be able to admit that we have feelings, like "Happy Happy Joy Joy" and "I am so gonna get him for that!"  And even the most experienced dominants have to admit that subbie strikes can be within the letter of the law, and yet also unpleasant.  I have some limits, in the basic overall relationship sense...and very few play wise, but that is because, as has already been stated here, his limits are appropriate considering the level of trust and intimacy that we have WORKED for and DEVELOPED over the ten years of our complete relationship--not just the couple of years that we have been together D/s wise.   As we took a "nilla" relationship and changed  it abit, there are some limits that are peculiar to us...like what I am willing to submit to his Dominant (okay our poly relationship is convulted and is hard to explain... but that is another story).  So, do I have limits??? You betcha, they just not be what others would expect.

Kiki


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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 7:04:17 AM   
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No Limits: How far would you go?
As far as our relationship takes us.

We always enjoy the banter exchanged on a "no limits" thread almost as much as we enjoy the 'slave v. sub' discussions. The common ground in both is that the majority of people with 'absolute' or 'one-true-way' stances aren't in a real time, live in, long term relationship. However that doesn't stop them from knowing what someone else has or represents in their relationship is "impossible".

There is no "limit" within our relationship because we trust each for that to be a fair and accurate representation of us. It means that if I blindfold beth and walk her toward the cliff nearby our house, take her to an edge, and tell her to take one more step; she'll take it because she's confident that, although I may have walked her near the cliff, any 'fall' won't kill or injure her permanently and most likely she is standing on a street curb.

Trust, and therefore 'limits', only works where trust is absolute. Both sides of the flogger should be confident that no compromise of that trust is possible. 'No limits' out of the context of a relationship is as meaningless as representing you are a slave or master but aren't in a relationship. You 'master' whom? You are a 'slave' to what? 'Limits' are the same.

Someone who represented on a profile they are a 'no limits' slave or the want a 'no limits' slave outside of a relationship context, may be attracted more to fantasy versus reality. Depending on how sadistic I feel at the time, I could use the old 'chainsaw' test. However, I respect and appreciate any person's label defined by their relationship. I accept as fact any relationship who represents they know and trust their partner to represent themselves as 'no limits'. What they do and don't do within the boundary of their relationship may have little or nothing in common with ours; yet both are 'no limits' because there is no limit for what they will do to serve their relationship. They'd quit their job. They'd permanently mark their body with a tattoo and/or other marking/piercing. They'd take that step off the cliff.

Approached with the same 'chainsaw test' the response is pragmatic - you don't destroy a valuable possession only to prove to the non-believers that you own it. Besides for those who understand that level of trust, no proof is necessary. For those that don't understand and lack the reference point of absolute trust - no proof is possible.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 7:06:06 AM   
MasterMataeo


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Status: offline 		Although i'm a "TOP"
my toughts on a no limits "bottom"  is that i chose what they may be ,, or not,,
and well i usually find a limit through the use of a safty word ,, for i find that most ,
have a limit or two ,, just undiscoverd

MM

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 7:08:33 AM   
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Greetings Mercnbeth
Trust, and therefore 'limits', only works where trust is absolute
I like this; it gave me a new perspective on which to think of. Thank you.
jaxon

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/17/2007 7:30:11 AM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

With respect, are we now saying it is okay for clinically insane people to be involved in BDSM?


I don't know what you are saying, but I am saying that if he was sane when he entered into it, and got informed consent for things- including the possibility that such things do happen from time to time- then it's a done deal. We leave the realm of sanity whenever we enter domspace, subspace or what-have-you. It isn't relevant, beyond the parties having agreed to it in advance. Hold high standards up front if you're worried about it.

Or do it differently; no problem there, right?

quote:


Assuming such an individual is not institutionalized for his own safety, since when did the BDSM community agree that those who are not "Sane" can effectively and competently make decisions with respect to their participation in BDSM?


Since when did the BDSM "community" agree about anything ?

I wasn't saying one can effectively and competently make decisions about it in such a state.
I was saying that's where prior informed consent enters the picture.
Evaluate sanity at that time; it's transient, after all.

quote:


How far down the ladder of insanity do we go before it is "not ok"?


Not my call.

quote:


I'll make clear this is in the context of a verifiable organic disorder affecting cognitive processes (ie a brain tumour). Non-organic disorders is yet another can of worms waiting to be opened.


I know. Friend of mine was blasted away by her father because of one of those.
Never said it was an ideal state, or something that meshes with me.
Just said it's really for prop and her daddy to decide.
I hope it never happens; for both of them.

Health,
al-Aswad.


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