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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 11:52:38 AM

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Yeah... no "attention" seeking here. Yanno, statistically, one in four people suffer from mental illness... think of three friends; if they're fine, then it's YOU!!!

and this would be why all of my friends require day passes LMFAO

BTW... did anyone happen to notice the subject line(title) of this thread? Take a good look.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 1:09:01 PM

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Yeah... no "attention" seeking here. Yanno, statistically, one in four people suffer from mental illness... think of three friends; if they're fine, then it's YOU!!!

and this would be why all of my friends require day passes LMFAO

Hmmm... "day passes" from who... their Master or ??? And are they laminated for drool protection?!!

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 1:41:47 PM

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No! No one look there is nothing to see.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 1:43:52 PM

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I'm pretty atavistic. When it comes to movies, music, and general cultural literacy, I have way more in common with My Master than I do with my roommates.

per esempio:

I just said "There but for the grace of God..." to my roommate, and she said "WTF does that mean?" This is the same girl who got confused when I referred to wine as "vino." She istn't stupid, she just hasn't been exposed to the same things as me. Granted, she is six years younger, but that's a pretty small span. The other thing about people around my age that irks me: When I started going to bars and clubs a mere 10 years ago, you rarely saw people taking photos unless it was someone's bday. And even then it was frowned upon. Now everywhere I look at a dance club people are posing for pictures. If it isn't recorded, tweeted, and tagged in facebook it didn't happen. It bothers me to no end. Can't us kids just have fun anymore without worrying about documentation? Sorry for the rant. That is all.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 2:04:10 PM

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Excuse me, sir... are you a goon?

Spectacular guess.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 4:21:10 PM

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Simon, if everyone providing personal anecdotes is providing data that falsifies your theory, perhaps your theory is not as strong as you thought it was. You are the only person who has provided no data. You stated a sweeping generalization, and provided nothing to back it up.

You are getting pushback because you are pontificating and "debating" while other people are having a conversation about the reality of their lives. Frankly, it's a good example of why younger women hit on men like me, instead of men like you. When I say something, it's usually well thought out, and sometimes it even carries depth and weight. By contrast, you seem as though you are trying ideas on for size. That's ok, but don't expect a lot of women -- sub, domme or nilla -- to find that quality as attractive as someone who is clear about the world, and able to express himself in a mature fashion.

Good luck on the site.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 4:26:43 PM

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Frankly, it's a good example of why younger women hit on men like me, instead of men like you.

The facts that he's smart and hot don't hurt either.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 4:27:54 PM

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There's a lot in life to see, study, and experience. Many skip out on the study and experience bit, and have tunnel vision. They're the ones I'm talking about. You don't need to do anything extreme, but routine can quickly become the enemy.

There's a zen quote that says "before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. after enlightenment - chop wood, carry water". What you, in your narrow vision see as boring we see as exploring the depths instead of the shallows.

Risk comes in two ways, climbing a mountain is one. It's risky but it takes a couple of days max. Loving someone openly and honestly and committing to them is a risk that encompasses twenty something years. That's the amount of time your parents risked when they chose to have you.

You risk three days, I've risk twenty years so far. And it's been worth it, I hope your parents can say the same.

Oh and Red Magic, if I haven't told you lately - you're still the best!

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 5:45:45 PM

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the guy who chooses video games over a relationship...

Wait. Wait wait wait.

You can have a relationship without video games!?!

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It has been said that I am more dense than most.

I would not presume to challenge your density.

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True, though at my age the 18-23 range specified in the OP is below my threshold. To me, a younger woman means one in her 30's. Everything you said is still true, though. It's all relative. Heh.

Similarly, I tend to find the 18-23 range as simply too young to have enough common points of reference to make a viable relationship work in the long term. Of course, to prove me wrong a couple of weeks ago I met a gorgeous 22-year old in a club who had a degree in molecular biology and when we struck up a conversation we had an amazing number of mutual points of interest. We probably spent eight straight hours talking. I would concede that I suspect she and I would have stood a good chance at a successful relationship. It's a pity she's not a sub.

Be that as it may, our whole culture tends to be youth obsessed. While many societies placed a great value on age and experience, we devote a lot of time and resources to looking young. It seems to me that there's almost a built-in attraction to the young that it takes time and experience to overcome. Maybe "adjust to" is a better term.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 7:38:56 PM

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Simon, if everyone providing personal anecdotes is providing data that falsifies your theory, perhaps your theory is not as strong as you thought it was. You are the only person who has provided no data. You stated a sweeping generalization, and provided nothing to back it up.

And what theory would that be?

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

There's a zen quote that says "before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. after enlightenment - chop wood, carry water". What you, in your narrow vision see as boring we see as exploring the depths instead of the shallows.

Risk comes in two ways, climbing a mountain is one. It's risky but it takes a couple of days max. Loving someone openly and honestly and committing to them is a risk that encompasses twenty something years. That's the amount of time your parents risked when they chose to have you.

You risk three days, I've risk twenty years so far. And it's been worth it, I hope your parents can say the same.

And what is it that I find boring? Really, you presume far too much about me, considering how little I've said about my thoughts.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 7:42:50 PM

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Simon, if everyone providing personal anecdotes is providing data that falsifies your theory, perhaps your theory is not as strong as you thought it was. You are the only person who has provided no data. You stated a sweeping generalization, and provided nothing to back it up.

And what theory would that be?

The theory that the reason women aren't interested in you has more to do with your age than with the awful personality you've displayed on this thread.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 7:52:20 PM

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Now, you see, I've never put forth that theory at all. You're just putting words in my mouth.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:03:21 PM

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Now, you see, I've never put forth that theory at all. You're just putting words in my mouth.

No, actually YOU DID put that theory forth... and ummm... these were YOUR WORDS:

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It always gets under my skin when I see subs my age with similar interests, who end their lengthy profiles with, "oh, btw, only looking for guys 40+ lol." It's like I might as well leave the community for a decade or so then come back. Probably wasting my time until then, anyway.

Well golly-gee, Captain Obvious... why "leave the community for a decade" if not for... oh let's see... YOUR AGE?!! Were you hoping your pink-thing would grow over that time frame, or that you'd simply be... <GASP>... OLDER?!!

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:03:24 PM

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LOL ok dude, I really don't care, I'm not the one who's single and unaware of my little-bitchiness, but if you're at all curious why everyone other than you thinks this post makes you sound like the whiny type of guy who can think of a million reasons why girls don't like him (that are all the girls' fault) rather than examining if he's actually consistently doing something that they find unappealing, all you have to do is ask.

But for the record you did.

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It's not even necessarily about older doms seeking younger subs. Most subs just don't give a shit about younger doms. Some want an older dom since they'll provide for them financially, some want an older dom because they think age always equals experience, and some just prefer (much) older partners. It always gets under my skin when I see subs my age with similar interests, who end their lengthy profiles with, "oh, btw, only looking for guys 40+ lol." It's like I might as well leave the community for a decade or so then come back. Probably wasting my time until then, anyway.

You can be gone out of the lifestyle for 10, 20, even 30 years, if you come back with this "why don't subs like me what is wrong with them" attitude it won't make any difference.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:07:49 PM

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Now, you see, I've never put forth that theory at all. You're just putting words in my mouth.

No, actually YOU DID put that theory forth... and ummm... these were YOUR WORDS:

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ORIGINAL: SimonSekeira

It always gets under my skin when I see subs my age with similar interests, who end their lengthy profiles with, "oh, btw, only looking for guys 40+ lol." It's like I might as well leave the community for a decade or so then come back. Probably wasting my time until then, anyway.

Well golly-gee, Captain Obvious... why "leave the community for a decade" if not for... oh let's see... YOUR AGE?!! Were you hoping your pink-thing would grow over that time frame, or that you'd simply be... <GASP>... OLDER?!!

LMFAO

Exactly!

He's saying "subs don't like doms my age" but that's ridiculous. There are plenty of subs who will ONLY date someone in their own age range.

The problem is that subs don't like HIM, and he assumes that's because of his chronological age rather than his immature sense of entitlement, utter lack of self awareness, and defensive posturing in his posts.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:09:55 PM

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Elisabella... should we remind him that subs/slaves on CM frequently READ people's postings, and that with every post he's only ensuring no s-type will have anything to do with him? Nah... let him continue to bury himself.

hee hee

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:18:53 PM

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You've missed the point entirely. Looking around at profiles, I've seen that lots of girls seem to have a cut-off point at around 25. or 30. Or higher. Therefore, assuming things stay the same, in ten years or so I'll be well within that range.

Don't misunderstand, I've never said those subs don't like me. I'm just outside of their dating range age, so I'm not going to bother trying to approach them. That's all. If someone says, "Sorry, only guys 25-37," it'd be silly for me to pursue anything wouldn't it? I can at least respect their wishes.

And, yes, in fact you're quite right. I've received a few messages and views on my profile thanks to this thread. So, thank you. The attention is nice, and it seems a few people understood what I was trying to say.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:19:01 PM

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Elisabella... should we remind him that subs/slaves on CM frequently READ people's postings, and that with every post he's only ensuring no s-type will have anything to do with him? Nah... let him continue to bury himself. hee hee

Hehe part of me feels bad, because I know that pointing out someone's personality flaws is pretty much guaranteeing that they'll *never* admit they were wrong, but then again part of me hopes that in a few days/weeks/months whatever he'll be in a situation IRL that reinforces this and he'll think "hey wait a minute maybe I am acting like a prat" and in that case it's actually kinder to have told him the truth rather than just ignored him and brushed him off as hopeless.

Thing is I have known a bunch of guys like this, the "girls won't date me cuz I'm too (young/broke/short/fat)" type, and it always makes me sad because while it is true that there are *some* girls who will see that as a deal breaker, there are also other girls who would be willing to look past it but the whole self pity trip basically annihilates any interest that could have formed.

At least he's not saying "girls don't like me cuz I'm too nice" LOL I've always been amused at the guys who think "too nice" equates to "assuming girls are obligated to sleep with you cuz you do stuff for them."

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:20:18 PM

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You've missed the point entirely. Looking around at profiles, I've seen that lots of girls seem to have a cut-off point at around 25. or 30. Or higher. Therefore, assuming things stay the same, in ten years or so I'll be well within that range.

Don't misunderstand, I've never said those subs don't like me. I'm just outside of their dating range age, so I'm not going to bother trying to approach them. That's all. If someone says, "Sorry, only guys 25-37," it'd be silly for me to pursue anything wouldn't it? I can at least respect their wishes.

That's cool but I don't see why you said you should leave the lifestyle for 10 years because some girls are only interested in older men.

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RE: why do older dominat seek yonger subimssives/slaves? - 12/8/2009 8:21:49 PM

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Also, Simon.... If a woman says, "Thanks, but I'm looking for someone older, no offense," what she often means is, "I'm looking for someone who acts older than you are acting."

Going the other direction, I had a relationship in 2008 with a sub I met on Alt who was 26 (I was 40), and posted on her profile that she didn't want to hear from anyone over the age of 30, no matter what. I wrote her anyway, and explained why she interested me. She responded by saying how much she had been fantasizing about being with a creative man. We started dating. I don't act old and stodgy, so she overlooked the age difference, and started flirting.

People say you're only as old as you feel. Maybe, but in the dating world, the babes tend to think you're only as old as you act.

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